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Shame on You!
Shame on You!
Shame on You!

If you have a few minutes you should watch it to the end. This is how the smart kids are doing it. Good curse. It totally worked and unnerved the officers. The cell phones are interesting too. Cool footage of the "hipster" middleclass set in action.

Edit: http://m.cnn.com/primary/_2A6zSi-iUYuYdyZ0s

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/11/19/us-protests-davis-pepperspray-idUSTRE7AI0ZA20111119

Actually. The mission was remove the sitters. They removed the sitters and moved back. They were not forced out. I did notice they were all arm with paintball guns. Now WATER will not remove the burning effect. Other then that law enforcement were pretty cool about it and the students did kept their distance. for both sides

I watched some of it. It's too loud for me to really focus on

Unrelated, but I wonder if police could use airsoft guns as crowd control? Just spray a crowd with .12s and pray no one gets an eye shot out, and everything should be alright Just thinking out loud, lol

I would recommend something else, rather than airsoft. Such as paintball guns with the paint pellet instead being filled with concentrated 2-chlorobenzalmalononitrile mixed with a strong aerosol solvent (IE, tear gas) which would splatter and become highly volatile (and thus evaporate and get into the eyes and skin) upon breaking of the outer shell" of the paintball.

Samus_aran115 wrote:I watched some of it. It's too loud for me to really focus on

Unrelated, but I wonder if police could use airsoft guns as crowd control? Just spray a crowd with .12s and pray no one gets an eye shot out, and everything should be alright Just thinking out loud, lol

Shame on You!
Shame on You!
Shame on You!

Try to keep it on topic.

Alright..I did chuckle when I saw one from the sitting line high crawl slowly out. I did notice some bury their faces in their shirt to prevent getting hit in the face from the spray which is not going to work. Not sure but I think I saw some rubbing their faces which is the wrong thing to do with an irritant. Other then that it seems the law enforcement followed their establish SOP and executed it well within perameter. The chant "Shame on you" is not effecting the law enforcement officers nor me. In fact I did notice a few of them chuckling at the situation. What I was waiting for though towards the end. The officer with the spray gun kinda waving the pepperspray discharger and have an accident like popping the cannister off by hitting another officer. Other then that....what should they be ashame of?

Melissia wrote:I would recommend something else, rather than airsoft. Such as paintball guns with the paint pellet instead being filled with concentrated 2-chlorobenzalmalononitrile mixed with a strong aerosol solvent (IE, tear gas) which would splatter and become highly volatile (and thus evaporate and get into the eyes and skin) upon breaking of the outer shell" of the paintball.

Capsaicin paintballs exist, so close.


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Jihadin wrote:Alright..I did chuckle when I saw one from the sitting line high crawl slowly out. I did notice some bury their faces in their shirt to prevent getting hit in the face from the spray which is not going to work.

If they were smart, and they aren't, they would have soaked them in bleach.

Yeah, pepperball guns exist and they are GREAT. They actually really reduce the overspray and won't hit people behind them etc etc, plus longer range obv.

I was disappointed in the limited application of pepper spray. They needed to use much more.

I'm not sure paintball/pepperball guns are such a good idea. The pellets leave marks, and that's exactly what these fools are looking for - some concrete "evidence" that the police are using disproportionate force.

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Bicat I agree with you. Though...it look thick as all hell coming out.

The paintball guns though are not lethal weapons so what can they say? I see no evidence of a baton in use.

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Rad give me some issues here. The use of the pepperspray? The student chanting? Sitters on a sidewalk? Police moving back in a good formation? Students acting like mature protesters? Clarify for me...I'm just a grunt with some college.

BTW I will admit. The sitters knew what was going to happen and acted quite mature on being arrested. Wasn't like the three females that got sprayed when OWS got started up in NYC at Wall Street

Jihadin: You are seeing it clearly. I am not going to tell you what to think about it. Although I can't say I agree with riot cops using force on peaceful student protesters on campus, and I think that is what is going to be addressed by school officials. According to local news, the protest still continues outside of where talks are currently being held. I added this link to the original post. Looks like more information is going national. Enjoy.

http://m.cnn.com/primary/_2A6zSi-iUYuYdyZ0s

biccat wrote:I was disappointed in the limited application of pepper spray. They needed to use much more.

Says the man who claims that the OWS protesters are "anti-freedom".

Rad the link broke or CNN got rid of it

Hang on, I thought protesting was legal in the US? I dont get it they allow those idots to picket servicemen funerals but if your sitting in a park your commiting a crime?

they were doing a sit in on a sidewalk. impeding foot traffic. not allowed to do that

Wow you yanks dont feth around when it comes to foot paths. So you shoot people that litter on sight I assume? And the death penalty for a late library book?

Well ya...I shot at people littering...IED's are such an eye sore and it always leave a mess and generaly some P.O. people. As for a late library book....that goes on your credit report

Actually, if shot in the face, paintball guns can cause the loss of the eyes and facial features. I know because one of the paintball leaguers over here got capped in the eyes. Especially at a close range like this incident.

Jihadin wrote:Rad the link broke or CNN got rid of it

Are you sure? Try it again. It works for me.

The article elaborates on the use of force. UC Davis does not want further police force used against its students and has called the incident embarrassing and unfortunate. The campus police chief also acknowledged that the riot cops got surrounded and were forced to retreat in the only direction they had available to them. That was the original vibe I got from the video.

The administrators recognize that the campus as an academic institution is supposed to be free from violence and students are allowed to peacefully dissent without fear of violence.

Good luck keeping enrollment up if you keep pepper-spraying your own students.

So...how the hell did the cops get involve?

Jihadin wrote:So...how the hell did the cops get involve?

Heheh...good question. It appears the blame is being directed at the campus Chancellor. She is being asked to resign for creating an unsafe environment under her leadership. She is refusing to step down at the moment saying she has broke no rules. She is also saying that the incident is "chilling" and "inappropriate," and that the police action was "unacceptable." I don't know how much of this is back peddling or what. The chief of campus police also says they are going to do a use of force review. There also appears to have been multiple warnings issued that camping was not allowed, although it looks like the administration hadn't prepared for this outcome. This is not the type of publicity the UC system wants. The budgets are already tight, now students at this campus are being pepper-sprayed.

I saw on another thread that campus cops are like regular cops. I'm not actually sure though on the campus cops there are like rent a cops. What gets me though...I didn't see any campus cops in with the regular cops. What also concern me...it built up to that point and no reps from the college were on hand with the law enforcement leadership on scene? Now the perception is that the law enforcement rolled onto a college campus and took matters on themselves. Somebody from campus security needs to step up and and figure out where the break down in communication happen and who was the point man/woman who are suppose to be the liason

I'm something of a paintball player, and I'm curious about these paintballs that won't harm you if you, say, get shot in the eye. Paintballs don't function quite like bullets, and being accurate with a marker is a mixture of ball quality and luck.

I'm sure law enforcement will aim center mass at the crowd if they really got out of hand and endanger the law enforcement officers themselves. Also I highly doubt they aim for heads due to the fact of eye injuries. If they're like me I aim a bit lower and get groin shots just to put down a person for zero threat level status

Sounds about right. Just saying though, if those balls have even the slightest imperfection in them they will veer off like you wouldn't believe.

Ah pepper spray and pepperballs, how I miss thee... not really.

Those cops sure are brave.

Without a gun and a badge, what do ya got?

olympia wrote:Those cops sure are brave.

Without a gun and a badge, what do ya got?

I know, I sure would be terrified of all those protesters sitting in a line not moving.

Should have used rubber nuclear weapons.

Jihadin wrote:they were doing a sit in on a sidewalk. impeding foot traffic. not allowed to do that

Unless you have political support.

olympia wrote:Those cops sure are brave.

Without a gun and a badge, what do ya got?

They're just doing what they're told, I would have done the same in that position. Indeed their restraint is admirable, as has been said.