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We'll find out soon enough eh.

 Cruentus wrote:

His initial reaction when I told him of this thread was "Why are they discussing a kids book on Dakka? Its for kids." LoL


Did you explain that once he grows up, he'll find that he both becomes concerned how the quality of individual products from an IP he likes affects the quality of the whole IP, that just because things are for kids doesn't mean they shouldn't be of decent quality, and that generally just discussing things can be enjoyable in and of itself? Or is this less a "teachable moment" scenario and more a "oh no, yeah, my child totes said this thing that supports my argument in an extremely witty way..." situation?

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The Woke child phenomenon comes to Dakka. It's the end times.

It's nice that kids enjoy these books, like I said before though. Must be a generation shift, as 9 is the age I was watching Terminator etc at. I can't help but feel parents giving their kids these books will be denying them that mildly traumatising upbringing!
   
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 Yodhrin wrote:
Did you explain that once he grows up, he'll find that he both becomes concerned how the quality of individual products from an IP he likes affects the quality of the whole IP

Why would you want to force your kid into depression?
Don't tell your kid anything of the sort, Cruentus, please!

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 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
 Yodhrin wrote:
Did you explain that once he grows up, he'll find that he both becomes concerned how the quality of individual products from an IP he likes affects the quality of the whole IP

Why would you want to force your kid into depression?
Don't tell your kid anything of the sort, Cruentus, please!


No worries there

IP? He's 9. He knows what IP ia about, but he doesn't give a flying about "the quality of products". He likes what he likes and what GW offers (except prices ), so as far as he is concerned, its all good. And for a product aimed at exactly that audience, looks like it worked.

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 Cruentus wrote:
He knows what IP ia about, but he doesn't give a flying about "the quality of products". He likes what he likes

I wish more adults had this maturity.
If two movies are coming out and one is a sequel to a movie you like but you don't like the movie itself, and the other is a new movie or a sequel to a movie you didn't like but you enjoy that movie, stop focusing on the bad movie and start focusing on the good movie people.
Less IP more stories!

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 Yodhrin wrote:
Did you explain that once he grows up, he'll find that he both becomes concerned how the quality of individual products from an IP he likes affects the quality of the whole IP, that just because things are for kids doesn't mean they shouldn't be of decent quality, and that generally just discussing things can be enjoyable in and of itself? Or is this less a "teachable moment" scenario and more a "oh no, yeah, my child totes said this thing that supports my argument in an extremely witty way..." situation?


I just tried explaining the important of maintaining IP integrity to my cousin's 9-year-old kid. He just said "Okay, Entyme" then ate a booger and went back to watching Spongebob reruns.

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 EnTyme wrote:
I just tried explaining the important of maintaining IP integrity to my cousin's 9-year-old kid.

I'd call the social service on you for child abuse if that was not obviously said in jest .

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 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
 EnTyme wrote:
I just tried explaining the important of maintaining IP integrity to my cousin's 9-year-old kid.

I'd call the social service on you for child abuse if that was not obviously said in jest .


" . . . and that's why 'War Banner' and 'Warhammer' are too similar for both names to exist in the same ecosystem under current international copyright laws."

- Yodhrin reading his son a bedtime story, apparently

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 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
 Cruentus wrote:
He knows what IP ia about, but he doesn't give a flying about "the quality of products". He likes what he likes

I wish more adults had this maturity.

Whether some random nine year old likes a product has absolutely no bearing on the quality or otherwise of that product.

Plenty of people like Birdemic or The Room, but that doesn't make them good movies, for example.


I assume the 'quality doesn't matter if it's for children' line of reasoning wouldn't be expanded to children's food, or clothes, education or health services/products, so why should entertainment be exempt from criticism?

   
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That's an interesting way to twist his words. If the kid enjoys it that should be good enough. It's up to them to decide the "quality" as they're the ones reading it.

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 Lord Damocles wrote:
Whether some random nine year old likes a product has absolutely no bearing on the quality or otherwise of that product.

I only said it's good to care about specific stories rather than caring about “whole IPs”, not that those books were good.

Though that kid enjoyed those books so good for him, I'm not going to annoy him with reasons why he shouldn't have enjoyed them.

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 Cruentus wrote:

IP? He's 9. He knows what IP ia about, but he doesn't give a flying about "the quality of products". He likes what he likes...


In true geek fashion- don't ever let anyone convince him out of liking what he likes. That kid is clearly one of us.

 
   
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 Lord Damocles wrote:
 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
 Cruentus wrote:
He knows what IP ia about, but he doesn't give a flying about "the quality of products". He likes what he likes

I wish more adults had this maturity.

Whether some random nine year old likes a product has absolutely no bearing on the quality or otherwise of that product.

Plenty of people like Birdemic or The Room, but that doesn't make them good movies, for example.


I assume the 'quality doesn't matter if it's for children' line of reasoning wouldn't be expanded to children's food, or clothes, education or health services/products, so why should entertainment be exempt from criticism?



I think most people like The Room, because it Isn’t good..


For me, if kids like it then it’s good enough for purpose.
I’ll read at some point and see what I think personally..
   
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Oh hi Danny76.
What, you think The Room is bad?
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Playing lots of saxophone?

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 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
Oh hi Danny76.
What, you think The Room is bad?
You are tearing me apart, Danny76!!
Anyway how is your sax life?
Playing lots of saxophone?


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Spoilers for Claws of the Genestealer.

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I know that Genestealers are intelligent...but since when are
Spoiler:
hypnosis and feinging friendship
anything even slighly close to how they behave?
   
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 Mentlegen324 wrote:


I know that Genestealers are intelligent...but since when are
Spoiler:
hypnosis and feinging friendship
anything even slighly close to how they behave?


Spoiler:
Hypnosis has always been somethng they did - especially in the earlier fluff often implanted victims could not remember that what happened to them - the better to spread the seed.

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Thanks for the link. I got a good laugh out of that last
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grav pistol
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 Gael Knight wrote:
I can't help but feel parents giving their kids these books will be denying them that mildly traumatising upbringing!


Just think of the stuff that kids can find/stumble across online though. I think the "scary" movies from our childhoods before the internet sort of pale in comparison.

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If the kids get into 40k, then the books have done their job. I personally think the writing is pedestrian, and weak, but if a kid likes it, ( Or anyone else for that matter, ) I can't give you any static over it. The real question- The kids and character FIGURES!!! WHERE ARE THEY????



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 Mr Morden wrote:
 Mentlegen324 wrote:


I know that Genestealers are intelligent...but since when are
Spoiler:
hypnosis and feinging friendship
anything even slighly close to how they behave?


Spoiler:
Hypnosis has always been somethng they did - especially in the earlier fluff often implanted victims could not remember that what happened to them - the better to spread the seed.


I remember the part about them forgetting being in at least one novel I've read, but i really don't recall anything being said to be that style specifically! Must have just missed it somehow then.

Spoiler:
I'd have assumed forgetting would be due to something being injected or potentially due to changes starting to take place, typical cartoon-style hypnosis via gaze seems far more absurd and silly.

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 Grot 6 wrote:
If the kids get into 40k, then the books have done their job. I personally think the writing is pedestrian, and weak, but if a kid likes it, ( Or anyone else for that matter, ) I can't give you any static over it. The real question- The kids and character FIGURES!!! WHERE ARE THEY????


I am hoping that they will be made after the completion of these books

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Spoilers for Secrets of the Tau. It's a good 'un.

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"What is up with all of the theft going on in these books?
These little delinquents are kleptomaniacs!"

You've managed to avoid almost every RPG game right? The FIRST rule of adventuring is to STEAL EVERYTHING that isn't bolted down*! If you can carry it you steal it! Coins, gemstones, rubbish bits of armour. Anything you can lay your hands on you steal!

*this assumes that you try to steal the thing they are bolted onto if at all possible!

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We'll find out soon enough eh.

Yup, steal everything. Coins, gemstones, niknaks, erm...functional Battlesuits?

Derp upon derp - I'd be afraid any kid I gave these to would think I was insulting their intelligence.

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So ummm
Battlesuits are genelocked........did they not tell the writer.
Also, I guess tau suits are automated now, makes me wonder why they need pilots.
God, GW really is ruining its fluff aint it?

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well, as was pointed out earlier, 40k isn't actually kid friendly so GW having to take a gak on it's own lore was to be expected.


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It's not so much taking a gak as it is just modifying it for a differing reading audience. It's the same as most kids productions for most things. They simplify some concepts and leave others out - otherwise these kids would have been dead within a few moments of stating their adventures.

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Another write-up I thoroughly enjoyed. Thank you.

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