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You would be better with all combi Meltas. They cost the same and give the special ammo.

Stormraven with TL Plas cannon and Nose mounted TL MM-200

p_gray99 wrote:5 Sternguard, 2 meltas, 3 combi-meltas, drop pod: 185. I drop + kill valk, you kill 2 with meltas, I shoot you down with 3 bolters.

8 Thousand sons - 184 - I rapid fire you to death with ap3 bolters

Deadshot wrote:Fine, we're boht in cover, but the point is that I have a 3+ cover save, and will hit FAR easier, and have a good chance to kill you.

If i hit you once, you die. 2x TL=good chance of hitting.

And if you disagree, I can always add TA next time


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MrNurgle wrote:

p_gray99 wrote:5 Sternguard, 2 meltas, 3 combi-meltas, drop pod: 185. I drop + kill valk, you kill 2 with meltas, I shoot you down with 3 bolters.

8 Thousand sons - 184 - I rapid fire you to death with ap3 bolters

3x Fireknife XV8 suits-176

10 kommandoz with snikrot

200

5 Grey Knight Terminators with Swords-200

meltavets in a vendetta

230

youre roastbeef

6 Hammernators 240

i think the termies are down on that one.....
anyway
deciver 300
i can engage you if i so choose with s-9 no armor no invul or just run you off the board with my abilities. i can walk out of cc too.

Edit:
forgot new dex was out so ill take 10 eldar pathfinder rangers 240 I think......

Vindicare-Obsession wrote:i think the termies are down on that one.....
anyway
deciver 300
i can engage you if i so choose with s-9 no armor no invul or just run you off the board with my abilities. i can walk out of cc too.

Edit:
forgot new dex was out so ill take 10 eldar pathfinder rangers 240 I think......

8 Tau pathfinders, Shas'ui with 2 shield drones w/ 3 RailRifles, Devilfish with SMS, DP, DL, TA-266

My Pathfinders are better.

IG Com Sqd.
C.O., M.O.Or, 3xSriper, 1 LG (Carapace Armor on all)= 115pts

danpieri wrote:IG Com Sqd.
C.O., M.O.Or, 3xSriper, 1 LG (Carapace Armor on all)= 115pts

How many models is that? If it's less than twenty it probably won't win.

its 5

MrMerlin wrote:its 5

It's six.
3 snipers, 1 Gl, 1 company commander and the master of Ordance.

And a Leman Russ would flatten them all!
(150 points)

Ravager
Flicker Field
Shadow Shields
125 points

5x Long man w/ML and Squad Leader-150 (I think)

Ravager
Disintegrator Cannons
Flicker Field
Shadow Shields
125 points

2 Hydra Flak Tanks-150

2 buzzsaw/ rokkit deffkoptas; theyll boost to get a 3+coversave, and then asault you

Hydra's ignore the cover save for Turbo Boosting Bikes or Flat Out skimmers.

oh S**t, youre right! in that case ill send some scout sentinels with lascannons after you

3 of them sould stay below 150

Is the AV limit up to 34 now, or still 33?

If it is 33> 15 Termagants with Devourers-150

If AV 34>

Vindicator with Siege Sheild, Hunter Killer and Extra stormbolter( now has 2), and Extra armour-155

well now im sending the Koptas after you vindicator!

2 deffkoptas with rokkiz and saw

140

Nemisis Dreadknght with Heavy Incinerator-150

Deadshot wrote:Is the AV limit up to 34 now, or still 33?

34. Not enough good vehicles were included in 33, and 34 still allows enough and cheap ones to get out of the way of loops.

MrMerlin wrote:2 deffkoptas with rokkiz and saw

140

Wraithlord, starcannon, sword: 130: I win with shooting or assault, I don't care about S8 'cos I'm T8 W4.

Did you miss my Dreadknight?


Nemisis Dreadknight with Daemon Hammer-150ish

I strike at Str 10, int 4, 3 attacks, and inflict ID if I roll uder a 10 on 2D6. I also hit on 3+.

Shooting you win, but not with me Deep Striking close up. You move, I follow and run to keep up, then assault.

Deadshot wrote:Did you miss my Dreadknight?


Nemisis Dreadknight with Daemon Hammer-150ish

I strike at Str 10, int 4, 3 attacks, and inflict ID if I roll uder a 10 on 2D6. I also hit on 3+.

Shooting you win, but not with me Deep Striking close up. You move, I follow and run to keep up, then assault.

Yeah, ninja'd. Anyway, I suppose that I'll do 15 Kabalite Warriors, Splinter Cannon. All those poisoned (4+) shots! I generally only need 10 to well and truly take out a dreadknight, and with around 2 turns (or 3 for the splinter cannon, 6 shots) I should be able to take you out no problem.

p_gray99 wrote:
Wraithlord, starcannon, sword: 130: I win with shooting or assault, I don't care about S8 'cos I'm T8 W4.

i shoot the hell out of you with twin rokkiz! you only got 3 wounds, and i got 2 rokkiz a turn. You do wound on 3s, but i have 2 wounds each

p_gray99 wrote:

Deadshot wrote:Did you miss my Dreadknight?


Nemisis Dreadknight with Daemon Hammer-150ish

I strike at Str 10, int 4, 3 attacks, and inflict ID if I roll uder a 10 on 2D6. I also hit on 3+.

Shooting you win, but not with me Deep Striking close up. You move, I follow and run to keep up, then assault.

Yeah, ninja'd. Anyway, I suppose that I'll do 15 Kabalite Warriors, Splinter Cannon. All those poisoned (4+) shots! I generally only need 10 to well and truly take out a dreadknight, and with around 2 turns (or 3 for the splinter cannon, 6 shots) I should be able to take you out no problem.

Points?

Probably around 150.


3 HF Land Speeders. Your poisoned shots can't touch me.

Serperate squadrons, 150pts.

AV limit of 34? Is that before or after Quantum Shields?

...and 2 Hydra Flak Tanks 150pts