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F.B.I. and Justice Dept. Said to Seek Charges for Petraeus
By MICHAEL S. SCHMIDT and MATT APUZZOJAN. 9, 2015

WASHINGTON — The F.B.I. and Justice Department prosecutors have recommended bringing felony charges against David H. Petraeus, contending that he provided classified information to a lover while he was director of the C.I.A., officials said, leaving Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. to decide whether to seek an indictment that could send the pre-eminent military officer of his generation to prison.

The Justice Department investigation stems from an affair Mr. Petraeus had with Paula Broadwell, an Army Reserve officer who was writing his biography, and focuses on whether he gave her access to his C.I.A. email account and other highly classified information.

F.B.I. agents discovered classified documents on her computer after Mr. Petraeus resigned from the C.I.A. in 2012 when the affair became public.

Mr. Petraeus, a retired four-star general who served as commander of American forces in both Iraq and Afghanistan, has said he never provided classified information to Ms. Broadwell, and has indicated to the Justice Department that he has no interest in a plea deal that would spare him an embarrassing trial. A lawyer for Mr. Petraeus, Robert B. Barnett, said Friday he had no comment.

The officials who said that charges had been recommended were briefed on the investigation but asked for anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss it.

Mr. Holder was expected to decide by the end of last year whether to bring charges against Mr. Petraeus, but he has not indicated how he plans to proceed. The delay has frustrated some Justice Department and F.B.I. officials and investigators who have questioned whether Mr. Petraeus has received special treatment at a time Mr. Holder has led a crackdown on government officials who reveal secrets to journalists.

The protracted process has also frustrated Mr. Petraeus’s friends and political allies, who say it is unfair to keep the matter hanging over his head. Senator John McCain, Republican of Arizona, wrote to Mr. Holder last month that the investigation had deprived the nation of wisdom from one of its most experienced leaders.

“At this critical moment in our nation’s security,” he wrote, “Congress and the American people cannot afford to have his voice silenced or curtailed by the shadow of a long-running, unresolved investigation marked by leaks from anonymous sources.”

Since his resignation from the C.I.A. on Nov. 10, 2012, Mr. Petraeus has divided his time between teaching, making lucrative speeches and working as a partner in one of the world’s largest private-equity firms, Kohlberg Kravis Roberts.

Mr. Holder has said little publicly about the investigation. The F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, asked by reporters in December why it was taking so long, said: “I can’t say. I mean, I guess I could say, but I won’t say.”

Marc Raimondi, a Justice Department spokesman, declined to comment on the investigation.

At a news conference shortly after Mr. Petraeus resigned, President Obama said he had no evidence that Mr. Petraeus had disclosed classified information “that in any way would have had a negative impact on our national security.”

“We are safer because of the work that Dave Petraeus has done,” Mr. Obama said, referring to his career in government. “And my main hope right now is — is that he and his family are able to move on and that this ends up being a single side note on what has otherwise been an extraordinary career.”

But investigators concluded that, whether or not the disclosure harmed national security, it amounted to a significant security breach in the office of one of the nation’s most trusted intelligence leaders. They recommended that Mr. Petraeus face charges, saying lower-ranking officials had been prosecuted for far less.

Federal agents stumbled onto the affair after Jill Kelley, a friend of Mr. Petraeus, complained to the F.B.I. that she had received anonymous threatening emails about her relationship with Mr. Petraeus. F.B.I. agents opened a cyberstalking investigation, traced the message to Ms. Broadwell and began searching her emails. That is when they discovered evidence that she and Mr. Petraeus were having an affair.

Mr. Petraeus is said to have begun the affair with Ms. Broadwell in 2011, soon after taking the job at the C.I.A. and she was interviewing him for her book, “All In: The Education of General David Petraeus.”

Mr. Petraeus resigned from the C.I.A. three days after Mr. Obama was re-elected. In a brief statement, Mr. Petraeus admitted to the affair, saying that “after being married for over 37 years, I showed extremely poor judgment.”

“Such behavior is unacceptable, both as a husband and as the leader of an organization such as ours,” Mr. Petraeus said, referring to the C.I.A. “This afternoon, the president graciously accepted my resignation.”

Mr. Petraeus, 62, a graduate of the United States Military Academy at West Point, took command of American forces in Iraq in 2007, one of the lowest points in the war. Al Qaeda controlled large parts of the country, and dozens of American soldiers were dying each month.

Mr. Petraeus directed the so-called “surge” of American forces that helped stabilize Iraq enough so that the United States could withdraw its troops under Mr. Obama. In 2010, Mr. Obama chose him to lead American forces in Afghanistan, where the Taliban was gaining territory. Mr. Petraeus had some success — although not nearly as much as he had in Iraq.

Along with his acumen on the battlefield, Mr. Petraeus was considered a natural political operator in Washington, where he easily navigated the politics of Congress, the White House and the Pentagon.

He fielded calls to run for president and cultivating a larger-than-life media image. All the while, he remained a trusted adviser to Mr. Obama, who appointed him to lead the C.I.A. in 2011.


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What an unfortunate end to such a distinguished career.

On this plus side, I found: "The F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, asked by reporters in December why it was taking so long, said: “I can’t say. I mean, I guess I could say, but I won’t say.” to be an unexpected comedy gem.

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I like Petraeus, but if your classified documents get found on your mistress's laptop as is allegedly the case here, I think you're probably going to jail.

Maybe he should call whoever Sandy Burglar Berger's lawyer was.

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Wouldn't most emails from his email account be called classified documents? You know, those emails where there's a disclaimer at the bottom saying this email is intended for a certain recipient, that sort of thing. Intel may have changed hands, but it may not have.

This does seem a bit politically motivated.

 
   
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I don't buy it... yeah, there was the lapse in judgement on the affair issue, but classified data?

That is a huge horse of a different color. A 4 star, especially a 4 star of his position, does not mess around with that. Just simply doesn't. ESPECIALLY after the Bradley Manning thing. Hell, the Army won't even let people around scanners anymore because of that.

It just doesn't make sense to me. I'm getting a strong wiff of a witch hunt here...

I guess we'll see.

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 djones520 wrote:
I don't buy it... yeah, there was the lapse in judgement on the affair issue, but classified data?

That is a huge horse of a different color. A 4 star, especially a 4 star of his position, does not mess around with that. Just simply doesn't. ESPECIALLY after the Bradley Manning thing. Hell, the Army won't even let people around scanners anymore because of that.

It just doesn't make sense to me. I'm getting a strong wiff of a witch hunt here...

I guess we'll see.
If however, his judgement was poor in more than simply his pants, and he did mishandle such documents, a major hammering at the top is a good way to make sure that message gets down through the ranks.

It's also a mistake to assume people in high positions of authority also always follow the rules, they get careless, let their egos take over, forget things, etc like anyone else, often moreso.

The conversations I've had with people in...surprisingly senior positions have been awkward indeed.

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 djones520 wrote:
I don't buy it... yeah, there was the lapse in judgement on the affair issue, but classified data?

That is a huge horse of a different color. A 4 star, especially a 4 star of his position, does not mess around with that. Just simply doesn't. ESPECIALLY after the Bradley Manning thing. Hell, the Army won't even let people around scanners anymore because of that.

It just doesn't make sense to me. I'm getting a strong wiff of a witch hunt here...

I guess we'll see.


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If you've prosecuted lower ranking individuals for similar or lesser offenses

they you've got to prosecute him no matter how much he's done for the country (no matter whether the info leaks were totally harmless). All that stuff is can be brought up in mitigation during sentencing,

so if the state wants to let him off with a suspended sentence or whatever fine, so be it, but to fail to prosecute just sends the wrong message to everybody else

 
   
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If only Obama & Co cared half as much about rapists and torturers as they do about keeping secrets from the American people.


If the general was an actual whistleblower I'd agree with this.

Wasn't one of Big O's campaign things running a transparent government?

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 AlexHolker wrote:
If only Obama & Co cared half as much about rapists and torturers as they do about keeping secrets from the American people.


If the general was an actual whistleblower I'd agree with this.

Wasn't one of Big O's campaign things running a transparent government?


You are correct, and now that he is showing transparency, people are complaining about something else. He can't win.


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Wonder what the intell was


From what I've read on wikileaks, it was probably about the number of hotdogs being delivered to Camp X or Y in Iraq or something

Unless of course, hotdog is US military jargon for Deathstar or something

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If only Obama & Co cared half as much about rapists and torturers as they do about keeping secrets from the American people.


Actually the mistress receiving secrets from a high ranking official via the bedroom is a classic move of a professional intelligence organisation. With many many examples.

I would be 0% surprised if the mistress was actively working for the KGB, Chinese Intelligence or Mossad at first guess. Or perhaps for one of the European nations.

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I trust that all alleged leaks will be investigated and prosecuted with the same zeal.

 
   
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I trust that all alleged leaks will be investigated and prosecuted with the same zeal.


Like Lerner......wait..

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If a pretty woman asks a general for access to his CIA email account, then he should have better common sense than to give it to her. That's a massive breach of security. We all want to impress women sometimes, but that strikes me as an absolutely idiotic breach of security for someone at his level. If that woman was working for the Chinese or Russians, he'd have basically given them free access into the CIA network.

You can be an absolutely wonderful general if most ways, but if you screw up majorly in another way, the first does not necessarily mitigate the latter.What's more he's now retired, he no longer plays any active role in the defence of the nation, and therefore there is no current operational reason to mitigate any investigation or sentencing.

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To access his email account she needed his CAC card itself to log onto his account. I've a feeling he forwarded some email to her then.

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 Jihadin wrote:
To access his email account she needed his CAC card itself to log onto his account. I've a feeling he forwarded some email to her then.


That's only for NIPR.

In order to get Class data to an unclass system requires some work that violates a ton of rules. It can't be done by accident.

So, if she did have it on her laptop, he gave it to her, or she did it.

It's more then just granting access to the class system.

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 Ketara wrote:
If a pretty woman asks a general for access to his CIA email account, then he should have better common sense than to give it to her. That's a massive breach of security. We all want to impress women sometimes, but that strikes me as an absolutely idiotic breach of security for someone at his level. If that woman was working for the Chinese or Russians, he'd have basically given them free access into the CIA network.

You can be an absolutely wonderful general if most ways, but if you screw up majorly in another way, the first does not necessarily mitigate the latter.What's more he's now retired, he no longer plays any active role in the defence of the nation, and therefore there is no current operational reason to mitigate any investigation or sentencing.


The pretty woman was his biographer that he was having an affair with. One could say that the poor judgement started before classified documents became involved.

 
   
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Here's my take...

If I have this correctly, it appears that he had been offered some sort of a plea deal to avoid a trial, but demurred. This could mean that the deal was simply not advantageous to him or that he feels the charges are unjust and he could beat them in court.

However, he needs to be held accountable if he truly did compromise intelligence/security, and at the same time we shouldn't forget his distinguished career either.

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 Orlanth wrote:
Actually the mistress receiving secrets from a high ranking official via the bedroom is a classic move of a professional intelligence organisation. With many many examples.

I would be 0% surprised if the mistress was actively working for the KGB, Chinese Intelligence or Mossad at first guess. Or perhaps for one of the European nations.

The Cold War's over, Orlanth. Broadwell already has a motive for her part in what Petraeus did without inventing commie plots.

This scandal's the only good thing the CIA's done in the past twenty years. People need to get it through their thick heads that the intelligence community do not deserve the respect and powers they are given, and the head of the CIA embarassing himself by thinking with his dick helps get that point across without leaving another trail of dead and wounded in its wake.

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 Jihadin wrote:
To access his email account she needed his CAC card itself to log onto his account. I've a feeling he forwarded some email to her then.


Going by feeling I doubt he gave her any info at all. He may of been of a rank that allowed him to take info home with him. She may have had devices from her handlers in whatever lodging she shared with him.

I am thinking along the lines that she was a BFE in the employ of a foreign power. Most senior staff will not just hand over secrets just because some pretty blonde bats her eyelids, its likely far more subtle than that. This is to a limited extend corroborated by the charge of mishandling classified infiormation, which is not the same as disclosing or stealing classified information. There is a clue in the (potential) charge, and it implies he was careless witgh security of info he was handling, rather than actively selling out the secrets.

Its likely he will have to face the shame, admit he was very foolish and get a wrist slap.
If the girl is outsourced things will go badly for her, if an agent of a foreign power she will be treated well, will avoid regular jail, and exchanged for an agent the other side are holding or put on ice until someone from the CIA is caught and cooling his heels in a foreign detention centre.

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So everyone is keeping in mind that she was a reserve Army LTC with a clearance right ?......
   
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So everyone is keeping in mind that she was a reserve Army LTC with a clearance right ?......


At this point I am keeping in mind that it is just an accusation most likely spawning from Bang Bangin' the Army LTC. I'll be more interested when there is an actual verdict TBH.

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 AlexHolker wrote:

The Cold War's over, Orlanth. Broadwell already has a motive for her part in what Petraeus did without inventing commie plots.


Yes. I forgot Post Cold war Russians dont do spying anymore because its naughty.



They so don't do it, that when ten of them are not caught and not expelled from the United States for not-spying a few years (not) back, some of them become not-celebrities in Russia. [/sarcasm]


Note: I am not saying the Russians did it, just knocking on the head the idea that it doesn't happen anymore.

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So everyone is keeping in mind that she was a reserve Army LTC with a clearance right ?......


Was she clear though to view CIA intel though.

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 Jihadin wrote:
Jerram wrote:
So everyone is keeping in mind that she was a reserve Army LTC with a clearance right ?......


Was she clear though to view CIA intel though.


I think he was addressing the "Russian spy" angle with that comment, rather than saying "it should be fine, she had clearance"

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