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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/19 19:51:51
Subject: Heralds of chaos
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Wicked Canoptek Wraith
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I need to prove to my friend that: you can only add a herald of Chaos (ex. Herald of Slaanesh), to your army list if the chaos daemon detachment is your primary.
He thinks you can take a single herald if your chaos daemons are an Allied detachment(not CAD).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/19 19:59:09
Subject: Heralds of chaos
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Frenzied Berserker Terminator
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Neither of you are quite right. You can take up to four Heralds in any detachment, not just your Primary.
This was amended in the FAQ.
http://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/Errata/Warhammer_40000/Chaos_Daemons_EN.pdf
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2015/01/19 19:59:26
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/19 19:59:54
Subject: Heralds of chaos
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
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? Heralds are an HQ choice for Chaos Daemons. You can take one as an HQ choice in a Daemons Allied Detachment. You don't get the rule that lets you take four for one slot in Allies, but you can still take them. Are you really so scared of Heralds you'd rather fight a FMC psyker?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/19 20:00:26
Subject: Heralds of chaos
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Regular Dakkanaut
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If i am reading the question right
you can take 4 herald per HQ slot if they are your primary detachment.
If they are an ally you can take a herald but you can only take one. You also need to take a troop.
If you are playing unbound you can take all the heralds you want.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2015/01/19 20:02:07
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/19 20:01:24
Subject: Heralds of chaos
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
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Hey, didn't notice that. Cool! Four Heralds of Tzeentch and a big Pink Horrors squad as Allies are on the menu now. Automatically Appended Next Post: Sargow wrote:If i am reading the question right
you can take 4 herald per HQ slot if they are your primary detachment.
If they are an ally you can take a herald but you can only take one. You also need to take a troop.
They FAQed it, you can now have four per HQ slot in any detachment.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/19 20:02:44
Subject: Heralds of chaos
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Regular Dakkanaut
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i didn't read the faq but good catch.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/19 20:08:01
Subject: Heralds of chaos
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Frenzied Berserker Terminator
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AnomanderRake wrote:
Sargow wrote:If i am reading the question right
you can take 4 herald per HQ slot if they are your primary detachment.
If they are an ally you can take a herald but you can only take one. You also need to take a troop.
They FAQed it, you can now have four per HQ slot in any detachment.
For the sake of accuracy, you can't take "for per HQ slot" - that implies you can take eight in a CAD. The actual rule is that you can take up to four total in any Detachment, and those would all count as a single HQ choice.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/20 00:58:16
Subject: Heralds of chaos
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Road-Raging Blood Angel Biker
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Cheexsta wrote: AnomanderRake wrote:
Sargow wrote:If i am reading the question right
you can take 4 herald per HQ slot if they are your primary detachment.
If they are an ally you can take a herald but you can only take one. You also need to take a troop.
They FAQed it, you can now have four per HQ slot in any detachment.
For the sake of accuracy, you can't take "for per HQ slot" - that implies you can take eight in a CAD. The actual rule is that you can take up to four total in any Detachment, and those would all count as a single HQ choice.
Errrm, since when are Heralds a 0-1 choice?
You can take 8 in a CAD 4 heralds = 1 HQ slot, 8 Heralds = 2 HQ slots
EDIT: Has been a fair while since I have read the daemons book, but I swear they werent 0-1?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/20 01:05:03
Subject: Re:Heralds of chaos
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Lieutenant General
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From page 94 of Codex Chaos Daemons:
Each primary detachment in your army may include up to four Heralds of Chaos, chosen in any combination from the following models:
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/20 01:06:47
Subject: Heralds of chaos
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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In 6th edition you could take up to 4 Heralds in a Primary Detachment (using a single HQ slot). In an Allied detachment, you can still take Heralds (nothing restricts it) however, each Herald uses an HQ slot.
When 7th was released, they changed Primary Detachment to Any detachment.
So in a single CAD you can take up to 4 Heralds using a single HQ slot. If you want more Heralds, you need to take more detachments.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/20 01:09:15
Subject: Re:Heralds of chaos
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Road-Raging Blood Angel Biker
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Ghaz wrote:From page 94 of Codex Chaos Daemons:
Each primary detachment in your army may include up to four Heralds of Chaos, chosen in any combination from the following models:
Ahh derpy derp on my part!!!
But yeah FAQ lets you take 1-4 in your allied detachment as per OP's question
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/20 01:25:00
Subject: Heralds of chaos
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Never Forget Isstvan!
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So yes you can at 2000 points take:
CAD1:
4 heralds of khorn on juggies with bades of awsome
3 squads of pinks x11
2 squads of khorny dogs at x10
CAD2:
4 lv3 heralds of tzeench
2 squads of pinks x11
1 squad of pinks at x12
1 more squad of korny dogs at x11
This is a horrifying list with 24 + psychic dice, basically and spells you want, and 3 incredibly beefy scouting and highly mobile melee destruction squads.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/20 10:22:16
Subject: Heralds of chaos
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Devious Space Marine dedicated to Tzeentch
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Eihnlazer wrote:So yes you can at 2000 points take:
CAD1:
4 heralds of khorn on juggies with bades of awsome
3 squads of pinks x11
2 squads of khorny dogs at x10
CAD2:
4 lv3 heralds of tzeench
2 squads of pinks x11
1 squad of pinks at x12
1 more squad of korny dogs at x11
This is a horrifying list with 24 + psychic dice, basically and spells you want, and 3 incredibly beefy scouting and highly mobile melee destruction squads.
But very squishy
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/20 12:36:31
Subject: Heralds of chaos
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Not hugely, as it summons PB for resilient scoring troops, and greater daemons if needs be.
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