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Update: Tried out the Hydra suicide gimmick list, unfortunately it was against an anti-horde Knights list. Managed about 25 mortals turn 1 from gaunts getting stepped on and stepped over, but after that I ran out of bodies and couldn’t keep up the pace.
   
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Upstate, New York

Think it might be worth it to add some biovores to churn out more MWs and mines?

(Just spitballing ideas, no idea how effective it would actually be)

   
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It was a purely gimmick list, I just got the worst possible army to try it out against. If I was gonna try a competitive version of it then Biovores and sporocysts would probably feature in there to choke the field with more exploding bodies, yeah.
   
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Use more zoanthropes. Mortal wound monsters. Before they take away our 3++
   
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How strong/useful are carnifex's and hierodules?
   
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Bergen

Carnifexes are cool, not good. Stand outs are Old one Eye (who might be good, not just cool) and the 24 shots bs3 dakkafex with -1 to hit it.

Hierodules are good. They where the hype until people build the damacaroenes instead. In adition to the 'macarones there is also a hard competition from the harradrian.

I am a dyslectic, so bear with me.

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Carnifexes cannot operate in a world where the premiere AT weapons do 3+d3 damage.
   
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Or in a world where a Rhino is tougher.

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anybody know of a good tldr tyranid type tactics. I am trying to follow this and found a tactical turtle video breakdown on youtube but am having a hard time figuring out how to build an army

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 G00fySmiley wrote:
anybody know of a good tldr tyranid type tactics. I am trying to follow this and found a tactical turtle video breakdown on youtube but am having a hard time figuring out how to build an army


Tl dr, broad tactics that will probably serve you well every edition of Tyranids

Take enough firepower to remove key threats. Don’t try and take enough firepower to table your opponents it will never work for Nids we aren’t one of those armies. Focus on their strong scoring, and the more you invest into things that punch the more Termagants you should take. Prioritise killing or tying up the things that are gonna do the most damage to your scoring. Play grand strategy, use Termagants as basically speed bumps or waves. Don’t think of the buzzwords there for a minute but think about how a wave won’t actually do much to stop your progress, but will slow you down if you have to go over it.

When looking at monsters, consider for a second the survivability of one monster as opposed to 5 of monsters. One just gives an easy and obvious target for AT weapons, 5 means you might actually have something standing by turn 3. This is a reason why a lot of players go for very heavy Monster play (Nidzilla) or very little and play mostly a horde of infantry like Genestealers or gaunts. However this is a tactical game and terrain is a thing, you can still get away with that solo Swarmlord for his move speed buff or that lone exocrine for punching out rapidfire plasma, just make sure you put it somewhere smart for Line of Sight purposes. Basically In a heavy monster build your artillery gets to be more brazen and effective and deploy on top of some building since there is probably a more important target or two on the board already and you can’t hide all your monsters anyway. In a more balanced/infantry centric build you probably want to pick the roles offered by monster support carefully and play then carefully.

Nids are a closed range, board control/brawler army. You have all the tools to take objectives as well as deny them from your opponent, and there’s usually one or two units every edition that have really short range, but good punch and survivability. And even some of the crappier units like Fexes (both sorts) can do surprising damage if given the opportunity. However even your artillery like hive guard is fairly short ranged and often needs an aggressive position to do their best work. As such Speed is key, and think extremely hard about picking any other hive fleet than kraken. +1 to saves is cool - getting into range a turn early and copping one less turn of firepower is much better. Having five more Termagants left in your unit because of FNP is awesome - but actually being on the objective is even better. Tyranids besdt strats are movement based and most your gameplay should be focused on holding the board. If you want some examples of this I can provide.




I think that’s the core principals to Tyranids. I’ve had extreme success with them over the years by following these broad strokes, and I’ve barely lost a game. I only get to play locally plus one city over this edition so not the broadest range, but plenty of variety and I’ve played through some of the biggest balance discrepancies ever, and come out ahead just by building effectively and playing smart. And off the backs of the humble Termagant too lol, grow to love them, they are the bread and butter of Nids, best unit in the dex every edition. Seriously 5 pts for what they offer now is just awesome. I run almost 100 and I’m playing Nidzilla lol they are just hardcore.
   
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I just bought my first Tyranids, and I wanted to get some opinions on how to build my Tyranid Warriors.

The list is a broodlord and a neurothrope for HQs, two squads of genestealers and one squad of warriors for troops, a squad of zoanthropes, and a trygon prime.

I am not exactly trying to be super competitive, but if I was basically planning to send everything
except the warriors forward for smites and charges how would you build those warriors?

What weapons are worth taking on them if they are just going to be there to hold a backfield objective?

Any build advice for warriors in general?

Thank you!
   
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IMHO with warriors, either you go very cheap with pure scything talons, or you go very expensive with boneswords, deathspitters and venom cannons.
   
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 Tyran wrote:
IMHO with warriors, either you go very cheap with pure scything talons, or you go very expensive with boneswords, deathspitters and venom cannons.


Full disclosure, never used the guys and still building my swarm.

If you were going to use them for backfield campers, would something in the middle work? Like one with a venom cannon and the other two bare bones, just as ablative wounds? Kinda like camping a 5 man tac squad with a ML to camp. With board sizes being what they are, the points for the 24” deathspitters don’t seem that out of place, but then we are just a few more points to your fully tricked out squad.

In my small games, I’ve just been using rippers to hold objectives. Low use, but low points. A squad of warriors is more of an investment, but might be able to hold off a harassment unit that swings by.

   
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Hello guys, im into making an horde type, with big minis army. Im thinking into new orks or nids. I already got the beastnagga box, but in my mind i think that nids got more "tools" for play competitive. Also the 9th ed codex might be good.
In your competitive experience, wich of both armys had more succees?
In my tournament games i dont see many of the 2. Just lots of drukh, marines and mech
   
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Hello there!
I have always been tempted to start a Nids project just for fun. Genestealer being my favorite ever since. Soooooo I ended up ordering :

1 Swarmlord
1 Broodlord
1 Lictor
60 Genestealer

Simply because I like them.
What would you recommend to buy next to get the above working atleast to a degree where I won't get smashed in the face every game

Thx in advance
   
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I always beta this drum. But lash whip and bonesword is much better then double bonesword on warriors. What little you loose in damage output is far outweighted by what you get from strategy.

The two most common uses is not piling in propperly. Now your opponent kills the first warriors and they need to pile into more of your dead warriors. Next turn you shoot and charge.

The other use is when the warriors get completly overwhelmed. And now you get to fight anyway.

I am a dyslectic, so bear with me.

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40kFANATIC wrote:
Hello there!
I have always been tempted to start a Nids project just for fun. Genestealer being my favorite ever since. Soooooo I ended up ordering :

1 Swarmlord
1 Broodlord
1 Lictor
60 Genestealer

Simply because I like them.
What would you recommend to buy next to get the above working atleast to a degree where I won't get smashed in the face every game

Thx in advance
Well, you gone "all in" for the stealers...I'd say you need support. So some Zoeys to give MW, Hiveguard maybe some Gunbugs to draw fire awy from the stealers? I am Hopeful that Stealers will get a second wound come the codex so you might just have to look forward to better days in the future...Lol some screens of Termagants wight help some but that is even moar swarmy dudes....
   
 
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