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I like them personally, but not sure if I'd bother using them...

Unit is still kinda bad (unless im unaware of 40k relevant rules updates...)

I'd use it I'd I would play Daemons.
I like the models GW released recently very much.

I would never buy the new Bloodthirster. Even half off the price GW is recomending would be too much for this miniature no matter how nice it looks.

Definitely. The round bases are perfect and the new models are much more dynamic.

In terms of use, throw 2 Greater Rewards on them and they clean house pretty well. The current method is to roll Sacrifice on a Herald or the last wound of a DP/LoC, then pop out a brand new Bloodthirster.


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 sing your life wrote:
I would never buy the new Bloodthirster. Even half off the price GW is recomending would be too much for this miniature no matter how nice it looks.

eBay usually has it for 10-20% off retail.

 jreilly89 wrote:



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 sing your life wrote:
I would never buy the new Bloodthirster. Even half off the price GW is recomending would be too much for this miniature no matter how nice it looks.

eBay usually has it for 10-20% off retail.

That not good enough. A 60% off the £70 RP is the minimum the kit needs to be worth the price.

 jreilly89 wrote:
Definitely. The round bases are perfect and the new models are much more dynamic.

In terms of use, throw 2 Greater Rewards on them and they clean house pretty well. The current method is to roll Sacrifice on a Herald or the last wound of a DP/LoC, then pop out a brand new Bloodthirster.

Built properly, a LoC honestly shouldn't ever come close to dying outside of your opponent focusing their entire army on it for 3+ turns... 2x Greater Rewards + 3x Div powers makes him a freaking ***** to kill off.
If he lands Precog, laugh. He's never dying at that point outside of the Warpstorm table nuking him.



I definitely want the new 'Thirster myself.

Occasionally to perhaps lead a small Khornate detachment alongside my main Tzeentch Daemons, but mostly to bring in via Sacrifice through a Herald or small unit of Pink Horrors.
Sacrificing a DP or Greater isn't my cup of tea, especially since my LoC is always my Warlord when I bring him to the party.

It's TWICE the price of the model it's replacing

 adamsouza wrote:
It's TWICE the price of the model it's replacing

And you can get a full reasonably sized force for something like Infinity or Warmachine for possibly LESS than this single model.

 adamsouza wrote:
It's TWICE the price of the model it's replacing

It also looks about eleventy billion times better....

Yes it's expensive, possibly unreasonably so when you compare it to other models of similar size/price (ie Imperial Knights/Stompas/Tesseract Vault/Lord of Skulls), but high prices are hardly something new to GW. If money is not an issue and you enjoy the aesthetics of the model, then go for it. At least no-one can complain about you bringing cheese, and you'll have an awesome looking model on the table.

 adamsouza wrote:
It's TWICE the price of the model it's replacing

It's also over twice the size of the model it's replacing, more detailed, comes with more options, and doesn't look look nearly as goofy.

If I was doing a Khorne Daemons army (something that's on my hobby bucket list) I'd be getting at least one to field. It's a great model and I really dig it. I just don't have the time or money to tackle every project that's crossing my mind right now.

 sing your life wrote:
I would never buy the new Bloodthirster. Even half off the price GW is recomending would be too much for this miniature no matter how nice it looks.

69.5 dollars is too expensive at half price. 34.75 dollars, which is 25%, would be too less, so maybe in the middle there.

a lot of the newer models, this one included just seem a little... "dainty". Almost as though they want it to take up as much space as possible while having as little actual mass as possible which leaves us with loads of thin pieces and parts that look like they would snap off and break if you breathe too heavily on it. Not to say this looks bad but it just seems that it would break, get knocked over, get broken in transport too easily and that not even considering transport storage issues.

In game, seems to me that it would be a disadvantage as it would offer a LOS from pretty much anything the enemy may want to fire at it which is not something you really want from a close combat unit.
Something this drastically different and larger, I would expect to have special rules that set it above a "normal" bloodthirster.

This without even considering the cost....

I have an older bloodthirster and dont really need another one (I rarely use this one) so I'm fine with what I have. On the other hand, I can definately see why some fans would want one as it looks like it would make an amazing centerpiece model.

I bought the new Bloodthirster (I neither play neither Chaos Daemons nor WHFB; it was for modelling only) -- and I must say, the model is pretty amazing. Finished, it will be a fantastic centerpiece or display item.

I paid $80 USD for it (a little under $100 Canadian), and I think it's a fantastic model for the price. The wings, and weapons options are very cool. For all the complaining about price, what non-GW demon model is comparable in size and price?

@Evil Inc - I know what you mean. Transportation of models that don't happen to be Imperium (read: boxy tanks...) are such a pain now. Ironically, to transport a $100, I would likely have to pay $200 to get a high-impact camera case and either custom cut or u-pick foam to transport it safely. You might get 2 models like that to one case, so you have the bulkiness too. And tipping, as you say, is also a major problem. My large models like that, which I also play, I have fastened to MDF bases that are quite heavy and tip-proof (it also adds 1/4 or 1/2 inch to the height of the model, and if necessary, makes the base larger :( )

All the models like this, my friends keep at my place (where we play), because they are nigh impossible to move around without breakage or horribly bulky boxes. OTOH, I don't see how you could make a bloodthirster that size, with the wings spread, that isn't fragile as all hell.

I hate its wings though. Look like cobwebs.

Saw one IRL for the first time today, and it's tiny!

Not as tiny as its predecessor, but considering the price tag, you'd expect something in the realms of Knight sized, and it is essentially a slightly beefed up Daemon Prince, which costs half the money.

As for would I use one? Well, no, not now. I've already got a large counts-as model and had considered using it as a basis of a Skarbrand, but it would look pathetic next to the bruiser I already have. Rules wise, it's tough to make a compelling case over the other GDs, but I've had good success whenever I've fielded one, you just need to incorporate enough fast moving assault units to try and ensure he doesn't take all your opponents shooting in the face turn 1.

It's cool and I like it, and I would definitely get one. I hope gw remakes all the greater daemons like they did the bloodthirster

 Sir Arun wrote:
I hate its wings though. Look like cobwebs.

Really? I thought it looked cool -- or at least, distinctive in a not-negative way. That is going to be a b*tch to highlight really nicely though. Like, goodbye 20 hours just on those wings.


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 Azreal13 wrote:
Saw one IRL for the first time today, and it's tiny!

Not as tiny as its predecessor, but considering the price tag, you'd expect something in the realms of Knight sized, and it is essentially a slightly beefed up Daemon Prince, which costs half the money.

As for would I use one? Well, no, not now. I've already got a large counts-as model and had considered using it as a basis of a Skarbrand, but it would look pathetic next to the bruiser I already have. Rules wise, it's tough to make a compelling case over the other GDs, but I've had good success whenever I've fielded one, you just need to incorporate enough fast moving assault units to try and ensure he doesn't take all your opponents shooting in the face turn 1.

Well, IK is a 3-sprue model, and Bloodthirster is only 2-sprue, so I knew it was going to be smaller. Plus USD $24 price difference on the sticker. However, a better comparison might be a Wraithknight -- same price, and WK is a 3-sprue model that's WAY bigger.

And/But: the trend with Games Workshop seems to be to "buff" prices with the new models, without increasing the old model prices. Hence, WK, IK, BT are progressively more expensive for the amount of plastic you get. Except, of course, it doesn't always work out that way (look at Succubus vs Sanguinary Priest vs Solitaire prices) ... so... who knows

I still say marketing guy rolls D6, applies a multiplier, and adds it on to a base number.

Already bought one. And yes I will be using it for an allied Khorne Daemons force to my Khorne Chaos Marine force. Honestly if I do a good enough job on it I might just get another one to paint a little differently just to have. My favorite model GW has ever produced by far.

Despite primarily fielding a mono-khorne daemon army I am not buying one and that's solely because of the price.

If the darn thing had updated 40k rules to go with it, id definitely buy it, but personally having built, painted and ran a mono Khorne list myself for a few months, it just didn't peak my interest aside from the model looking cool... I simply can't whack myself hard enough to buy one... I think it looks cool, but rather smaller than I thought it would have been...

I don't really know where Im going to stand on it as a center piece for my collection for a while.... Maybe if I see some battle reports with good, successful (lol) Bloodthirster builds, but so far I have only ever had a use for them for possession, and that was around turn 3-4 when my opponents had taken heavy casualties and there after lacked the necessary stopping power of killing it before it got into combat.

$100 just seems to darn high for a model that is old in terms of rules, bad in terms of gameplay (from my perspective) and just going to be bought for the heck of it =/

The cost is a bit ridiculous, $116 for an update to an existing model that was half the cost (and was only a third the cost just a few years ago), is hard to swallow.

It's a nice looking kit, but at that price, it's a pass.

I would love to get one, but fear that my painting skills are no where near good enough to do it justice. Maybe after a few hundred more hours of practice and I'll buy one as a display model. That, and I still need to actually finish my first army!

If I had Khorne marines, I would buy this for sure. I don't enter an expensive hobby and then complain about the expenses, I just buy the models I like!

 Rippy wrote:
If I had Khorne marines, I would buy this for sure. I don't enter an expensive hobby and then complain about the expenses, I just buy the models I like!

a lot of the issue is that they're replacing a $59 model with a $116 model to do the same thing

 Vaktathi wrote:

 Rippy wrote:
If I had Khorne marines, I would buy this for sure. I don't enter an expensive hobby and then complain about the expenses, I just buy the models I like!

a lot of the issue is that they're replacing a $59 model with a $116 model to do the same thing

The $60 model that looks awful and was made with finecrap resin?

Not that I play chaos but if I did, I'd use my original bloodthirster, just like I use my original RT era marines. I'm sure being about 3 inches high would have some advantages but eh.

I made my Bloodthirster from a $10 toy rhino-man and some chaos bits, and its what I'll be using for the forseeable future. The new one looks awesome, but the price tag is just too far out of my comfort zone (especially for a second thirster). The wings at least look like they can be magnatized, because there's no way in hell I'd be able to transport that thing plus all the other weirdly shaped chaos gribblies I bring to game. The change to the large oval base worries me lot for the future of other MCs. Gone are the days of carnifex/DPrince sized kits I think.

10/10, would slay Imperials with.

I plan on building mine as Skarbrand, and I don't play daemons or chaos.

 Rippy wrote:
I don't enter an expensive hobby and then complain about the expenses, I just buy the models I like!

10/10 would exalt again.