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2x10 Cultist -100

How do you wipe out entire squads to prevent RP?

is taking ectoplasma forge fiends a terrible idea because its a vehicle?
is taking nm blastmaster tiny blast any good?

Or should i be focusing on high volume of shots? I can get high volume of shots from hb but thats an opportunity cost of not having ac to shoot their light vehicles.

I havent played the new necron so did the rp rules changed?

When i do my shooting phase, does he immediately get to roll rp or does he have to wait til the very end of my shooting phase?

Usually I try to assault with Spawn and a HQ...usually a Biker Lord or Sorcerer, or a Juggerlord. The Spawn are usually tough enough that they don't take wounds, and the goal is just to cause enough casualties to sweep them.

They still get RPs but you aren't stuck there fighting the unit forever as the downed 'crons still count toward Wound allocation as far as I can tell.

If spawns are the only units then maybe i play Renegades and Heretics and spam their spawns. What exactly is the difference between RH spawns vs CSM?

i dont own any spawns but if i need them then i plan on buying the required bases and bags of army men to create human centipedes like Fallout 3 Centaurs.

:middle finger: to GW.

Necorns don't have aa so maybe dp with mace can help ?

Volume of fire and prioritize targets. RP is now just a feel no pain roll with a few bonuses. Tarpit their close combat models so you can get yours into their gun line because once again Necrons are still not great at close combat.

Renegades and Heretics spawn come in with a unit of 3 at 55 and CSM is 90 for 3, however the CSM spawn can be a squad of 5 where the Renegades are stuck at 3. Something to bear in mind though is that you can take the spawn for Renegades and Heretics as troop choices, they do not count towards your compulsory troops though. Do you feel like you might be leaning towards adding in Renegades or sticking strictly with CSM?

As for anti air I would disagree considering it's incredibly rare to see crons not running their flying crescents which do pretty good at anti-air, not to mention their basic rifle can strip HP. The caveat to that is MCs as darkflame182 pointed out in regards to a DP with Mace or even Axe of Blind Furry with the new FAQ.

Re animation changed quite a bit, basically it became an almost undeniable feel no pain roll on any unit that has the rule.

It is a 5+ basic, -1 if you cause instant death, but there are ways round the penalty for Necrons, depending on what your opponent takes, he could have a 4+ re-animation role re-rolling 1's within 12 inches of an overlord, making instant death taking it back to 5+...

I'd say if you can find a decent way to use them, use Khorne Berserkers, the amount of attacks will hurt them hard, or tarpit them with cultists, as survivable as Newcrons are, they rely on shooting a lot, and still suck at cqc.

Considering you can fire blasts at FMC's if you have skyfire, the instant they take a doomscythe, you're in real trouble.

Even then, taking 5 immortals in a nightscythe is still a popular choice, especially for the decurion, and 4x twin linked str 7 tesla is still going to stick a wound on you every turn on average and force a grounding check.

Ectoplasma isn't a terrible choice, but both lychguard and wraiths are still getting a 3++, so that reduces quite a bit of the advantage there, and many of the 'cons are T5, so it's not even threatening to knock down their RP roll either.

Being a vehicle that has to get within 24" is also a bit of a deathsentence unless your opponent only runs tesla on his dudes.

'Crons get their RP as pseudo FNP now, and is taken against every wound that's not from a D-Weapon, even against stuff that would normally not allow FNP, like being doubled out or force weapons. Certain things allow them to stack this even higher and get re-rolls, so you could easily be looking at T5 units with Str 5 powerswords with a 3+/3++/4+++ re-rolling 1's on both armour saves and reanimation, with a 2+/4++/4++ character in there, also re-rolling 1's. Not to mention one or two guys with Str 7 AP2 armourbane warscyths hiding in there.

'Crons are very difficult to get to stay down and will win a battle of attrition against most people. Sweeping is about the only way to deal with them quickly, and given their resiliance and Ld 10, it's a tough ask, but if you get them to keep making checks, even at Ld 8 or 9, they'll fail soon enough.

Are necrons fearless?

Necrons have Ld 10 on most units I think

feth wraiths! there is no way for csm to hard counter them! necrons being weak in cc is a total lie when they have wraiths!

Just add Khorne Berzerkers, mauler fiends land raiders and kharn... that should be enough attacks to make sure they stay dead for good! at least I do it and it works well enough... Wait a second... Who told you necrons were bad at CC because they aren't we just are better. And remember LD ten is nothing when you kill four units and when a necron unit is swept by Berzerkers it dies no questions asked.

Interesting. I just sold 16 of my 31 kb... I guess he was fighting Necrons.

i dont have lr any more. I also only have 2 rhinos now. I plan to make paper rhino then.

List:
Lord, MoK, Power Sword (i dont have jugger lord but i would take if i had)

Troops
10 kb in rhino, dirge castor.Do they need chain axes?
10 kb in rhino dirge castor. Should i give the lord power axe?

Fast:
3x5 spawns (2 squads of MoN and 1 unmarked for jugger lord)(I dont have spawns yet but can easily make them)

Heavy:
3x5 havocs with hb (proxy my ac as hb)

A blob of 20 guyz + Cypher. H&R helps vs wraith tarpits. And you're standing a pretty decent chance of sweeping cron blobs. Be it Slaaneshits that take less causalties or khornates that deal almost 2 times more damage and have more reliable charges.

He will stand a chance only having popped rerollable RP or if he's super lucky. Even so, he'll simply have to allocate some considerable ammount of firepower and mellee forces to deal with your guyz as crons are not overly killy.

Which units from R H should i be using besides spawns?

which is better?

5 havocs with 4 ac or hb vs RH hwt with AC/HB?

Any idea what the Necron player is taking?
Will he be going Decurion or CAD?
If Wraiths, prepare to be tarpitted.
If Harvest Wraiths, prepare to be tarpitted FOREVER.
If Destroyers, hope you weren't relying on 3+ saves.
If Heavy Destroyers, hope you weren't relying on 2+ saves.
They do lack much AA, though, apart from their own flyers. Maybe exploit that.

From what I remember off the top of my head.

A cTan deciever-Fething shooting psychic blast templates of doom!

The destroyer lord thing that deepstrikes with deathmarks or something and can give preferred enemies to entire unit and unleash so much ap3 death with around 20 hits.

There was a Wraith wing that just feth me up real bad.

that were some night scythes and anahilation barges.

 Filch wrote:
A cTan deciever-Fething shooting psychic blast templates of doom!

The destroyer lord thing that deepstrikes with deathmarks or something and can give preferred enemies to entire unit and unleash so much ap3 death with around 20 hits.

...
Wut?

C'tan don't have psychic blast templates.

And Deathmarks aren't AP3.

Here's hoping he wasn't cheating...

The cTan was shooting something. I thought it was psychic cuz he had no guns but was shooting blast templates. Was it a shard?

Which weapon was killing my marines out right then? If not death marks. I just remembered the Destroyer lord giving preferred enemy and deleted my squad of havocs.

They all look the same to me and I dont know much about Necrons.

The only source of mass AP3 shooting comes from Destroyers, but they look pretty distinct, doubt you would have confused them.
You should have been allowed to makes saves against Deathmark shooting unless they rolled a 6 (rending)

Oh, I think the confusion was from the rending when he told me that I could not make 5 armor saves thereby eliminating my havocs.

Did he roll five 6s? If so, then yeah. If not...