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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/24 16:17:05
Subject: Oh California, you so crazy!
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http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/mar/23/california-lawyer-shoot-the-gays-proposal-2016-ballot
A California lawyer says he wants to legalize the execution of gay people, and there may be nothing the state’s attorney general can do to stop the proposal from moving forward.
Matt McLaughlin, an attorney in Huntington Beach, California, filed paperwork to bring his proposal, which would sanction the killing of gay and lesbian residents on the basis of their sexuality, before voters in November 2016.
The initiative, named the “Sodomite Suppression Act”, is awaiting further review by the office of the state attorney general, Kamala Harris, who does not appear to have the authority to block it. However, the measure is unlikely to reach voters, as the California supreme court can intervene to prevent measures that violate the state constitution from reaching the ballot.
The so-called “shoot the gays” proposal would mandate “any person who willingly touches another person of the same gender for purposes of sexual gratification be put to death by bullets to the head, or by any other convenient method”. McLaughlin, a lawyer since 1998, declared in his proposal that it is “better that offenders should die rather than that all of us should be killed by God’s just wrath”.
The initiative would also make it a crime to support gay rights, punishable by a $1m fine, up to 10 years in prison and expulsion from the state. It would be illegal to distribute “sodomistic propaganda” to “any person under the age of majority”. Being a “sodomite” or distributing “sodomistic propaganda” would disqualify a resident from serving in public office or public employment and from enjoying any public benefit.
In February, McLaughlin paid the $200 filing fee to put the initiative on the November 2016 ballot.
Once a sponsor has paid the required fee, the attorney general is directed under California law to prepare a circulating title and 100-word summary of the initiative before sending it to the secretary of state’s office for the signature-gathering period. The proposal would then need to collect at least 356,000 valid signatures within 180 days to qualify for the ballot, which is no easy task. It’s at that point that the supreme court can step in and keep the measure from appearing on the 2016 ballot.
“The statute is clear: that the office has to prepare a summary provided the proponents have paid $200 and followed the right procedures,” attorney Robert Stern, who authored the state’s 1974 Political Reform Act, which imposed expenditure reports for ballot measure campaigns, told the San Francisco Chronicle. Stern told the paper he is unaware of an instance in which the attorney general refused to issue a title and summary.
Harris is scheduled to prepare the title and summary by 4 May 2015.
State senator Ricardo Lara condemned the measure. “I support freedom of speech, but calling for state-sanctioned execution of a protected class calls into question the proponent’s character and judgment,” said Lara, who is gay, in a statement.
Lara, along with members of the legislature’s LGBT caucus, filed a formal complaint with the state bar against McLaughlin on the grounds that attorneys are supposed to demonstrate “good moral character”.
This isn’t McLaughlin’s first controversial measure. In 2004, he tried to qualify an initiative in 2004 that would have added the King James Bible as a textbook in California public schools, the LA Times reported in 2004.
“Even if you don’t believe its teachings, you’ll agree that it includes rich usage of the English language,” the paper quoted McLaughlin saying at the time. He defended the proposal as “good literature” and said it was not an attempt to indoctrinate students.
So... this is a thing...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/24 16:18:40
Subject: Oh California, you so crazy!
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Fixture of Dakka
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Just another nut bar getting more time in the sun than he deserves.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/24 16:27:40
Subject: Oh California, you so crazy!
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Mekboy on Kustom Deth Kopta
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I love how they label him a lawyer, and not a christian. Where are the moderate Christians to denounce this guy?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/24 16:31:26
Subject: Oh California, you so crazy!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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This dude needs to go the way of Jack Thompson: have his license to practice law revoked
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/24 16:32:09
Subject: Oh California, you so crazy!
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Fixture of Dakka
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sirlynchmob wrote:I love how they label him a lawyer, and not a christian. Where are the moderate Christians to denounce this guy?
You didn't see my post?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/24 16:33:25
Subject: Oh California, you so crazy!
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Jovial Plaguebearer of Nurgle
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I can't imagine any sane person voting for something like this regardless of how they feel about gay rights. I'm sure the media will use this as another way to make it look like all christians hate gays.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/24 16:34:22
Subject: Oh California, you so crazy!
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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sirlynchmob wrote:I love how they label him a lawyer, and not a christian. Where are the moderate Christians to denounce this guy? I'm missing where the article says he was a Christian. But while being presumptuous I'll take you up on that and condemn his activities as unChristian. This goes against the teachings of the New Testament or to put it another way: "Dude be trippin." - Jesus.
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/24 16:38:44
Subject: Oh California, you so crazy!
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Well he is free to say and file it.
We are free to laugh at the ridiculousness and the fact that he wasted 200$ to file it.
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Unit1126PLL wrote: Scott-S6 wrote:And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.
Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/24 16:44:20
Subject: Oh California, you so crazy!
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Androgynous Daemon Prince of Slaanesh
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Well, this guy is an idiot. And should be put to the sword. Get the torches and pitchforks, boys!!*
*assuming the softies denounce my sword suggestion, put him in a mental hospital and throw away the key. Solitary sounds about right.
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Reality is a nice place to visit, but I'd hate to live there.
Manchu wrote:I'm a Catholic. We eat our God.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/24 16:53:14
Subject: Oh California, you so crazy!
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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I think a public billboard with his face and Bar code # and a giant Nelson pointing and laughing at him is more than appropriate. HAH HAH!
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2015/03/24 16:53:23
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/24 16:54:35
Subject: Oh California, you so crazy!
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Androgynous Daemon Prince of Slaanesh
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I'd suggest being eaten alive by a legion of wiener dogs, but I wouldn't want the dogs to get sick.
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Reality is a nice place to visit, but I'd hate to live there.
Manchu wrote:I'm a Catholic. We eat our God.
Due to work, I can usually only ship any sales or trades out on Saturday morning. Please trade/purchase with this in mind. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/24 16:55:40
Subject: Oh California, you so crazy!
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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timetowaste85 wrote:I'd suggest being eaten alive by a legion of wiener dogs, but I wouldn't want the dogs to get sick.
Don't give them any ideas. They love ham enough. Let them find out humans are just Long Pigs then its the Wienerpocalypse.
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/24 16:56:51
Subject: Oh California, you so crazy!
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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timetowaste85 wrote:I'd suggest being eaten alive by a legion of wiener dogs, but I wouldn't want the dogs to get sick.
Dont make me get PETA....
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Unit1126PLL wrote: Scott-S6 wrote:And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.
Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/24 17:10:00
Subject: Re:Oh California, you so crazy!
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Waaagh! Ork Warboss on Warbike
Waiting at the Dark Tower steps..
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Proves that California is the most diverse state in the union! Hey we got liberals and conservatives!
My states a gak show everyday waiting to happen also its going in the gutter! Also we are out of water! So make room for us please!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/24 17:11:44
Subject: Oh California, you so crazy!
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Steadfast Grey Hunter
Greater Portland Petting Zoo
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sirlynchmob wrote:I love how they label him a lawyer, and not a christian. Where are the moderate Christians to denounce this guy? Probably everywhere, including this thread, considering the demographics.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/24 17:15:45
Subject: Oh California, you so crazy!
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Member of the Ethereal Council
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I want it to go through then, when voting is done, we see what districts voted yes, than nuke from sub orbit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/24 17:34:33
Subject: Oh California, you so crazy!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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sirlynchmob wrote:I love how they label him a lawyer, and not a christian. Where are the moderate Christians to denounce this guy?
Pretty sure that every Christian in this thread will denounce this guy.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/24 17:41:17
Subject: Oh California, you so crazy!
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Novice Knight Errant Pilot
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Amusingly, in response, the 'Intolerant Jackass Act' is being submitted in accordance with all proper procedure to the Cali AG that states: Any person, herein known as an "Intolerant Jackass," who brings forth a ballot measure that suggests the killing of gays and/or lesbians, whether this measure is called the Sodomite Suppression Act or is known by some other name, shall be required to attend sensitivity training for at least three (3) hours per month for twelve (12) consecutive months. In addition, the offender or "Intolerant Jackass" must donate $5000 to a pro-gay or pro-lesbian organization.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/24 17:47:16
Subject: Re:Oh California, you so crazy!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Wonder if he a fan of "Better Call Saul"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/24 17:48:43
Subject: Oh California, you so crazy!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Portugal Jones wrote:Amusingly, in response, the 'Intolerant Jackass Act' is being submitted in accordance with all proper procedure to the Cali AG that states: Any person, herein known as an "Intolerant Jackass," who brings forth a ballot measure that suggests the killing of gays and/or lesbians, whether this measure is called the Sodomite Suppression Act or is known by some other name, shall be required to attend sensitivity training for at least three (3) hours per month for twelve (12) consecutive months. In addition, the offender or "Intolerant Jackass" must donate $5000 to a pro-gay or pro-lesbian organization.
I like it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/24 17:55:25
Subject: Oh California, you so crazy!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Can we legalize shooting lawyers? I'm pretty sure that would make a lot more people happy.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/24 17:57:34
Subject: Oh California, you so crazy!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Soladrin wrote:Can we legalize shooting lawyers? I'm pretty sure that would make a lot more people happy. 
Like this?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/24 17:58:00
Subject: Oh California, you so crazy!
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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This is what happens when northern California gives southern California drinking water,
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/24 17:59:01
Subject: Oh California, you so crazy!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/24 18:00:17
Subject: Oh California, you so crazy!
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Fixture of Dakka
CL VI Store in at the Cyber Center of Excellence
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kronk wrote: Portugal Jones wrote:Amusingly, in response, the 'Intolerant Jackass Act' is being submitted in accordance with all proper procedure to the Cali AG that states: Any person, herein known as an "Intolerant Jackass," who brings forth a ballot measure that suggests the killing of gays and/or lesbians, whether this measure is called the Sodomite Suppression Act or is known by some other name, shall be required to attend sensitivity training for at least three (3) hours per month for twelve (12) consecutive months. In addition, the offender or "Intolerant Jackass" must donate $5000 to a pro-gay or pro-lesbian organization.
I like it.
I don't. Too specific. Needs to read closer to:
Any person, herein known as an "Intolerant Jackass," who brings forth a ballot measure that suggests the killing of members of any group of people based on their religion, race, gender or sexual preferences or political views who have not been convicted of a capital crime shall be required to attend sensitivity training for at least three (3) hours per month for twelve (12) consecutive months. In addition, the offender or "Intolerant Jackass" will be fined $10,000.00 plus the amount tax payers paid to handle the issue .
Knowing this will never even reach the ballot, this ass hat is wasting scarce resources of an already overburdened state government in an attempt to make a name for himself.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/24 18:46:13
Subject: Oh California, you so crazy!
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Mekboy on Kustom Deth Kopta
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Portugal Jones wrote:Amusingly, in response, the 'Intolerant Jackass Act' is being submitted in accordance with all proper procedure to the Cali AG that states: Any person, herein known as an "Intolerant Jackass," who brings forth a ballot measure that suggests the killing of gays and/or lesbians, whether this measure is called the Sodomite Suppression Act or is known by some other name, shall be required to attend sensitivity training for at least three (3) hours per month for twelve (12) consecutive months. In addition, the offender or "Intolerant Jackass" must donate $5000 to a pro-gay or pro-lesbian organization.
IMO, It should be worded to also apply to the 500,000+ christians voters who signed the proposition to get this to the ballot.
It's not just this one nutjob, it's clearly indicative of his religion.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/24 18:49:45
Subject: Oh California, you so crazy!
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Fixture of Dakka
CL VI Store in at the Cyber Center of Excellence
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sirlynchmob wrote: Portugal Jones wrote:Amusingly, in response, the 'Intolerant Jackass Act' is being submitted in accordance with all proper procedure to the Cali AG that states: Any person, herein known as an "Intolerant Jackass," who brings forth a ballot measure that suggests the killing of gays and/or lesbians, whether this measure is called the Sodomite Suppression Act or is known by some other name, shall be required to attend sensitivity training for at least three (3) hours per month for twelve (12) consecutive months. In addition, the offender or "Intolerant Jackass" must donate $5000 to a pro-gay or pro-lesbian organization.
IMO, It should be worded to also apply to the 500,000+ christians voters who signed the proposition to get this to the ballot.
It's not just this one nutjob, it's clearly indicative of his religion.
You hav a link to where this has gathered 500,000+ signatures from any voters, Christian or not?
The article in the opening post doesn't seem to mention that unless I'm missing something.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/24 18:53:11
Subject: Oh California, you so crazy!
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Mekboy on Kustom Deth Kopta
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CptJake wrote:sirlynchmob wrote: Portugal Jones wrote:Amusingly, in response, the 'Intolerant Jackass Act' is being submitted in accordance with all proper procedure to the Cali AG that states: Any person, herein known as an "Intolerant Jackass," who brings forth a ballot measure that suggests the killing of gays and/or lesbians, whether this measure is called the Sodomite Suppression Act or is known by some other name, shall be required to attend sensitivity training for at least three (3) hours per month for twelve (12) consecutive months. In addition, the offender or "Intolerant Jackass" must donate $5000 to a pro-gay or pro-lesbian organization.
IMO, It should be worded to also apply to the 500,000+ christians voters who signed the proposition to get this to the ballot.
It's not just this one nutjob, it's clearly indicative of his religion.
You hav a link to where this has gathered 500,000+ signatures from any voters, Christian or not?
The article in the opening post doesn't seem to mention that unless I'm missing something.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_ballot_proposition
Generally, because of California's size and population, proponents of a ballot initiative or referendum need the money and the resources to first gather over 500,000 petition signatures
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/24 18:55:14
Subject: Oh California, you so crazy!
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I think Capt. Jake's point is that this proposal hasn't reached that point just yet, which is supported by this passage in the article:
Once a sponsor has paid the required fee, the attorney general is directed under California law to prepare a circulating title and 100-word summary of the initiative before sending it to the secretary of state’s office for the signature-gathering period. The proposal would then need to collect at least 356,000 valid signatures within 180 days to qualify for the ballot, which is no easy task. It’s at that point that the supreme court can step in and keep the measure from appearing on the 2016 ballot.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/24 19:01:12
Subject: Oh California, you so crazy!
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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sirlynchmob wrote: Portugal Jones wrote:Amusingly, in response, the 'Intolerant Jackass Act' is being submitted in accordance with all proper procedure to the Cali AG that states: Any person, herein known as an "Intolerant Jackass," who brings forth a ballot measure that suggests the killing of gays and/or lesbians, whether this measure is called the Sodomite Suppression Act or is known by some other name, shall be required to attend sensitivity training for at least three (3) hours per month for twelve (12) consecutive months. In addition, the offender or "Intolerant Jackass" must donate $5000 to a pro-gay or pro-lesbian organization.
IMO, It should be worded to also apply to the 500,000+ christians voters who signed the proposition to get this to the ballot.
It's not just this one nutjob, it's clearly indicative of his religion.
You seem fixated on this. Its like me saying that because one Jew eats some bacon, its clearly indicative of their religion, despite being expressly against it.
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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