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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/03 23:21:19
Subject: Kenyan Militants Kill 147 at University
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Sniping Reverend Moira
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So.... I found out about this one while having breakfast this morning:
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/03/world/africa/garissa-university-college-shooting-in-kenya.html?_r=0
NAIROBI, Kenya — Somali militants burst into a university in eastern Kenya on Thursday and killed nearly 150 students in the worst terrorist attack since the 1998 bombing of the United States Embassy here, laying bare the nation’s continuing vulnerability after years of battling Islamist extremism.
A small group of militants, most likely between four and 10, roved from dorm to dorm, separating Christian from Muslim students and killing the Christians, the authorities said. Students described being awakened before dawn by the sound of gunfire and fleeing for their lives as masked attackers closed in.
Officials said that by the time Kenyan commandos cornered and killed the attackers on an upper floor, 147 people lay dead.
Despite new security laws, significant Western help and a heightened state of vigilance that has already put police officers on almost every major street corner in the capital, Nairobi, Kenya remains squarely in the cross hairs of the Shabab, the Somali terrorist group that immediately claimed responsibility for the attack on Thursday.
The Shabab has killed hundreds of Kenyans — on country buses, in churches, in remote coastal towns and inside one of Kenya’s fanciest malls during a devastating siege in 2013 that left 67 people dead and rattled Kenya’s prized image as a cornerstone of stability in this part of Africa. The Kenyan government is so desperate to stop the Shabab, one of the most violent franchises of Al Qaeda, that some officials have even proposed building a 424-mile wall across the entire Somali border.
Kenya’s tourist industry, one of the pillars of its economy, has been badly damaged by the terrorist attacks, and the bloodshed on Thursday is sure to make things worse. There are also fears that the Shabab’s relentless emphasis on singling out Christians could inflame religious strife in a country already wrestling with tensions between a Muslim minority, which has complained about government persecution, and a Christian majority that increasingly feels under attack.
The violence Thursday came just days after President Obama announced that he would visit Kenya in July, his first trip to his father’s homeland since taking office. Mr. Obama had stayed away until now, at least in part out of concerns about Kenya’s public safety.
The White House issued a statement condemning the attack and vowing to continue assisting Kenya in fighting the Shabab — in recent months, the American military has killed the group’s leader and other operatives — but it offered no indication of whether the university siege would change Mr. Obama’s travel plans.
The Kenyan authorities said that around dawn, the attackers stormed Garissa University College in the town of Garissa, about 90 miles from the Somali border. Though the college is in a predominantly ethnic Somali area of Kenya, it attracts students from across the country, many of them non-Muslim.
In a statement early on Thursday, the Shabab said that its fighters had attacked the university early in the morning, separating Muslims from non-Muslims in an “operation against the infidels.”
Continue reading the main story
In an audio message soon after, a Shabab spokesman, Ali Mohamoud Raghe, said the attack had been carried out because “the Christian government of Kenya has invaded our country,” a reference to the Kenyan military’s 2011 incursion into Somalia to oust the Shabab from its strongholds.
He said the university had been targeted because it was educating many Christian students in “a Muslim land under colony,” a reference to the large Somali population in a part of Kenya that Somalia once tried to claim. He called the university part of Kenya’s “plan to spread their Christianity and infidelity.”
President Uhuru Kenyatta vowed to crack down on terrorists, and on Thursday, he abruptly ordered 10,000 police recruits to report to duty despite a court order saying the recruits may have been selected through corrupt practices. Human rights observers have said that Mr. Kenyatta is trying to consolidate control and using the fear of terrorism to quash civil rights.
On Thursday, panicked students streamed out of the besieged university with chilling stories of witnessing their classmates’ being killed. Augustine Alanga, 21, an economics student, said he had been asleep in his dormitory when the shooting began. He said he bolted from his room without stopping to put on his shoes, cutting his feet as he sprinted barefoot across the campus and into a nearby forest.
“When I looked back, I saw them,” Mr. Alanga recalled. “There were five or six of them. They were masked. And they were shooting live rounds.”
Police officers nearby “heard the gunshots and responded swiftly, and engaged the gunmen in a fierce shootout; however, the attackers retreated and gained entry into the hostels,” a police statement said. “Security agencies arrived and are currently engaged in an elaborate process of flushing out the gunmen.”
The police surrounded and sealed off the campus, and by 11 a.m., three of the college’s four student dormitories had been evacuated, while “the attackers have been cornered in one hostel,” the Interior Ministry said on Twitter. It was unclear whether any bystanders had been killed by the security forces
Kenya’s struggles with the Shabab have been going on for years. In late 2011, citing a string of attacks and kidnappings, the Kenyan military charged across the border into Somalia, sending troops, tanks and aircraft to fight the Shabab.
The military later acknowledged that the invasion had been planned well in advance, part of an effort to protect Kenya’s borders from the violence in Somalia and to safeguard Kenya’s economic interests, including a huge port to be built just 60 miles south of Somalia.
The incursion managed to dislodge the Shabab from vital positions, but instead of pushing the Shabab threat farther from Kenya, it did the opposite: It brought more Shabab in.
It's as fethed up as it sounds, and it was a little concerning to me that I hadn't seen it reported on the news at all. Then there's the Islam/Christian bend that makes it worse.
Thoughts? We're other news stations reporting on this, and I just missed it? Should the president still be going to Kenya this month?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/03 23:24:53
Subject: Re:Kenyan Militants Kill 147 at University
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Ultramarine Librarian with Freaky Familiar
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Thoughts? There are so many these days, its easy to lose track.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/04 01:16:16
Subject: Kenyan Militants Kill 147 at University
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Stubborn Hammerer
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Crazy that Bin Laden didn't want to be associated with these Al-Shabab characters on account of them frequently killing Muslims in their operations.
How many countries haven't had any recruits by terrorist organizations?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/04 02:52:08
Subject: Kenyan Militants Kill 147 at University
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Posts with Authority
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If only we could get a really catchy hashtag trending with some celebrity support, it ought to clear this up posthaste.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/04 03:14:21
Subject: Kenyan Militants Kill 147 at University
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Sniping Reverend Moira
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Bromsy wrote:If only we could get a really catchy hashtag trending with some celebrity support, it ought to clear this up posthaste.
That's sorta why I was curious if other media outlets were covering it. We have a school shooting in the U.S. it's front page news. We have some people shoot up a newspaper it's all over the media. This thing was a page 3 story in the newspaper I happened to read it in (USA today).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/04 03:32:55
Subject: Kenyan Militants Kill 147 at University
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Member of the Ethereal Council
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cincydooley wrote: Bromsy wrote:If only we could get a really catchy hashtag trending with some celebrity support, it ought to clear this up posthaste.
That's sorta why I was curious if other media outlets were covering it. We have a school shooting in the U.S. it's front page news. We have some people shoot up a newspaper it's all over the media. This thing was a page 3 story in the newspaper I happened to read it in (USA today).
Apathy really.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/04 03:40:58
Subject: Re:Kenyan Militants Kill 147 at University
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Fixture of Dakka
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Which outlets were you looking at? Sometimes the ones you don't check normally might have something. Personally I haven't looked... in fact I've done a purge of all the outlets I normally check... I'm needing to 'disconnect' due to some 'personal' reasons.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/04 04:22:39
Subject: Kenyan Militants Kill 147 at University
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cincydooley wrote:That's sorta why I was curious if other media outlets were covering it. We have a school shooting in the U.S. it's front page news. We have some people shoot up a newspaper it's all over the media. This thing was a page 3 story in the newspaper I happened to read it in (USA today).
Well, you know - TIA.
edit: thanks, Tumblr!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/04 04:26:52
Subject: Kenyan Militants Kill 147 at University
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Fixture of Dakka
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Ouze wrote: cincydooley wrote:That's sorta why I was curious if other media outlets were covering it. We have a school shooting in the U.S. it's front page news. We have some people shoot up a newspaper it's all over the media. This thing was a page 3 story in the newspaper I happened to read it in (USA today).
Well, you know - TIA.
edit: thanks, Tumblr!

haha Great image. I love that movie. Actually fits with what I was thinking about why this might not be getting coverage...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/04 07:17:52
Subject: Kenyan Militants Kill 147 at University
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Hardened Veteran Guardsman
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There was some coverage here in Australia, but unfortunately the gif that Ouze posted is all too true. No one bats an eye unless it happens in a western country.
It's not really a stretch that the media won't mention it too often when most people in the west just see Africa as an amorphous cultural blob of tribesmen (though this attitude has been around since the whole imperialism shebang Europe did there)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/04 08:07:22
Subject: Kenyan Militants Kill 147 at University
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Keeper of the Holy Orb of Antioch
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Africa, no one seems to care about there. Was covered on BBC but due to elections in 33 days things get swamped out by those events.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/04 08:37:50
Subject: Kenyan Militants Kill 147 at University
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Fate-Controlling Farseer
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I've been seeing a lot of coverage of it on various media outlets, but it just isn't slammed on the headlines, because as everyone else has said, "Africa"...
It's a continent where diarrhea alone kills 176 CHILDREN per every person murdered by a gun in the US, per year. It's hard to drum up a ton of emotion with conditions like that.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/04 23:33:37
Subject: Kenyan Militants Kill 147 at University
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Stubborn Hammerer
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Actually, it's really easy to drum up that emotion, should you ever actually go and see it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/04 23:52:18
Subject: Re:Kenyan Militants Kill 147 at University
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Fox News, Shepard Smith broke it a couple days
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/05 00:13:59
Subject: Kenyan Militants Kill 147 at University
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Highlord with a Blackstone Fortress
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Scrabb wrote:Crazy that Bin Laden didn't want to be associated with these Al-Shabab characters on account of them frequently killing Muslims in their operations.
Not really crazy. Bin Laden had standards, they just weren't the sort of standards we approve of.
Islamic state is also unpopular with many militants because of the killing of aid workers, and have been criticised by other groups which are quite happy to spill the blood of the correct sort of infidel.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/05 10:10:22
Subject: Kenyan Militants Kill 147 at University
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Keeper of the Holy Orb of Antioch
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Just too many moles to whack, you can hunt them around the world but they never die, new moles always pop up.
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Sgt. Vanden - OOC Hey, that was your doing. I didn't choose to fly in the "Dongerprise'.
"May the odds be ever in your favour"
Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
I have no clue how Dakka's moderation work. I expect it involves throwing a lot of d100 and looking at many random tables.
FudgeDumper - It could be that you are just so uncomfortable with the idea of your chapters primarch having his way with a docile tyranid spore cyst, that you must deny they have any feelings at all. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/06 14:37:18
Subject: Kenyan Militants Kill 147 at University
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Esteemed Veteran Space Marine
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BBC America was covering this last week. I saw the news on it on Thursday, and it was their 2nd most important story on that broadcast (got 2nd most air-time). So some people out there are paying attention to it, even if the major US news outlets aren't.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/06 14:49:25
Subject: Kenyan Militants Kill 147 at University
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Those poor bastards.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/06 15:27:43
Subject: Kenyan Militants Kill 147 at University
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Orlanth wrote: Scrabb wrote:Crazy that Bin Laden didn't want to be associated with these Al-Shabab characters on account of them frequently killing Muslims in their operations.
Not really crazy. Bin Laden had standards, they just weren't the sort of standards we approve of.
Islamic state is also unpopular with many militants because of the killing of aid workers, and have been criticised by other groups which are quite happy to spill the blood of the correct sort of infidel.
If the whole ISIS affair has told us anything, it's that the enemy of your enemy is not necessarily at all your friend.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/06 15:54:31
Subject: Kenyan Militants Kill 147 at University
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Grisly Ghost Ark Driver
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Could really use The Emperor and his Thunder Warriors right about now.
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