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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/06 18:14:27
Subject: Looks like one group is ignoring the new California water restrictions
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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I'm as shocked as you are by who it could be. http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-wealthy-cities-lag-in-conservation-20150404-story.html#page=1 California's wealthy lagging in water conservation There are few signs of California’s epic drought along a stretch of Maple Drive in Beverly Hills. Deep green front lawns stretch out, dotted with healthy trees and sculpted foliage. The only brown lawn in sight was at a home under construction. As California gears up for the first mandatory water restrictions in its history, a long-standing class divide about water use is becoming increasingly apparent. Beverly Hills and other affluent cities use far more water per capita than less-wealthy communities, prompting some to cast them as villains in California’s water conservation effort. The problem lies, in part, in the social isolation of the rich, the moral isolation of the rich. - Stephanie Pincetl, who worked on the UCLA water-use study Residents in communities such as La Canada Flintridge, Newport Beach, Malibu and Palos Verdes all used more than 150 gallons of water per capita per day in January. By contrast, Santa Ana used just 38 gallons and communities in Southeast L.A. County used less than 45. Water usage in Los Angeles was 70 gallons per capita. But within the city, a recent UCLA study examining a decade of Department of Water and Power data showed that on average, wealthier neighborhoods consume three times more water than less-affluent ones. With Gov. Jerry Brown’s order requiring a 25% cut in water consumption, upscale communities are scrambling to develop stricter laws that will work where years of voluntary standards have not. Many believe it’s going to take a change in culture as well as city rules to hit the goal. lRelated Quiz: Test your knowledge of the California drought “Some people -- believe it or not -- don't know we are in a drought,” said George Murdoch, general manager of utilities in Newport Beach, which is beginning to fine chronic water wasters. “We have people that own a home here but aren't around a lot, so they could miss a leak.” Stephanie Pincetl, who worked on the UCLA water-use study, said wealthy Californians are “lacking a sense that we are all in this together.” “The problem lies, in part, in the social isolation of the rich, the moral isolation of the rich,” Pincetl said. Until now, Beverly Hills officials said they have focused on educating, rather than penalizing water wasters. The city is in the second stage of its emergency water conservation plan, which calls for voluntary limits on use of fountains that do not use recycled water, pavement washing and lawn watering to reduce water consumption by 10%. But on Friday, fountains, sprinklers and hoses seemed to flow freely throughout the city. Across from City Hall at the Beverly Gardens Park, perfectly green hedges frame rows of blooming flowers, tended by columns of black sprinkler heads. A fountain balanced on the backs of four stone satyrs burbled pleasantly. Tourists posed for a picture in front of the iconic Beverly Hills sign, which overlooks a water feature the size of a racquetball court. City officials will introduce a stricter plan that they say will achieve the governor's 25% reduction target at a council meeting this month. There is some debate as to how much residents can change. Kay Dangaard, a longtime Beverly Hills resident who recently moved to a condo just outside the city, said she’s seen much apathy about the drought. “In this part of town, everyone is just too important to see outside themselves,” she said as she shopped at the Beverly Hills Whole Foods Market. “Where are these people going to go with all their money when the water is gone?” Despite the bountifully lush landscaping, there are signs that Beverly Hills is beginning to get the message. Marianna Dzierzbinska, 76, listed her water conservation tactics as she hefted strawberry cartons at the Whole Foods. She uses cold water that runs before the shower gets hot to water her plants. When her finicky wire terriers Alfie and Lily knock some food into their water and refuse to drink it, she collects the leftovers in a bucket. She leaned in close to share her last strategy. “When I don't have guests, I don't flush every single time,” Dzierzbinska whispers. At Bouchon, an upscale restaurant in the heart of Beverly Hills that seats 120, general manager Justin Williams says the restaurant is doing all it can to help. Water is only available on request. He instructs his bartenders to scrape the ice for drinks, not scoop it. They use less water to wash dishes and keep the restaurant clean. “Of course we take every measure we can,” he said. “But we don’t have a lot of water usage we can cut.” The effects of California's ongoing drought are evident at Diamond Valley Lake in Hemet as shells, once under water, lie in the soil of recently exposed banks. Extremely low levels of water flowing through meandering streams of the east fork of the San Gabriel River in the Angeles National Forest show the effects of the prolonged drought. The water flows into the San Gabriel Dam and the Morris Dam, further downstream. There are some early signs that Beverly Hills is conserving more. According or state data, the city’s water use dropped from 226 gallons per capita per day last July to 144 in January. Water use is seasonal, however, so the true test will come this summer when temperatures rise. But some residents aren't sure how far they're willing to go. Eric, an entertainment industry worker who asked not to use his full name, said he’s trying to conserve water, making sure the faucet doesn’t run as he brushes his teeth and does the dishes. But there's also his fountain and the jacuzzi and the lemon and orange trees to consider. Seated at a sidewalk table at Urth Caffe in Beverly Hills, he said he could probably conserve more. “This is America. You gotta live it up a little bit, right?” he said. High water use by upscale cities is about more than lifestyle. These communities tend to have fewer apartments and less dense housing. The dwellings tend to be larger and include sprawling grounds in need of water. The UCLA study found that owners of single-family homes often over-water when restrictions are not in place. The Santa Fe Irrigation District, which serves affluent communities in northern San Diego County, recorded the state’s highest residential per capita water use during one month in 2014. The district recently began sending engineers to large properties to perform water savings checkups that identify areas of waste. The resort communities that dot the Palm Springs area also use large amounts of water, which is needed to keep backyards and a plethora of golf courses verdant amid scorching desert heat. In Orange County, resident Mike Bennett said some locals think twice about curtailing their landscaping because they are concerned about hurting their property values. Bennett said he thinks Newport Beach uses more water than other areas because of the way it was designed. “It was designed for quality of life, with big, open spaces, compared to urban areas with smaller lots,” he said. Newport Beach, like Beverly Hills, has seen a steady drop in water use over the last few months. Officials say they have limited lawn watering to four days a week in the spring and summer and slap water wasters with fines. The city says it’s prepared to increase restrictions, such as prohibiting the filling of swimming pools. Some Newport Beach residents are even taking on the role of drought cops. A neighbor — a landscape architect with drought-tolerant landscaping and no grass in his yard — snapped a photo of Beliakoff, hose in hand, and sent it to the board of the local homeowner’s association. Beliakoff was angry and embarrassed, but the shaming made him think. He would be willing to take out all of his grass if the state’s water situation doesn’t improve, and adds that he and his neighbors no longer wash their cars by hand. He follows drought news more closely, and he’s troubled by what he reads. “It scares me big-time, especially if we don’t get a handle on it. It’s in the back of my head, always.” frank.shyong@latimes.com, hailey.branson@latimes.com, matt.stevens@latimes.com Times staff writer Javier Panzar contributed to this story.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/06 18:23:41
Subject: Re:Looks like one group is ignoring the new California water restrictions
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Have to hit them where it really hurts.......................the WALLETS or Purses
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/06 18:27:25
Subject: Re:Looks like one group is ignoring the new California water restrictions
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Jihadin wrote:Have to hit them where it really hurts.......................the WALLETS or Purses They live in 3 million dollar homes and drive a Ferrari for their everyday car. A $100 ticket for watering my lawn in a drought? feth off. I spend that on shampoo in a month.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/06 18:28:10
Subject: Looks like one group is ignoring the new California water restrictions
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"Voluntary" restrictions, coupled with "education" on the water issue. Don't expect anything to happen until it is mandatory, and even then there will be kicking and screaming.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/06 18:29:08
Subject: Re:Looks like one group is ignoring the new California water restrictions
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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kronk wrote: Jihadin wrote:Have to hit them where it really hurts.......................the WALLETS or Purses
They live in 3 million dollar homes and drive a Ferrari for their everyday car.
A $100 ticket for watering my lawn in a drought? feth off. I spend that on shampoo in a month.
Hehe who says just one fine though
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/06 18:29:42
Subject: Looks like one group is ignoring the new California water restrictions
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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We went from voluntary to mandatory water restrictions in Galveston County a few years back. People in my neighborhood didn't stop doing jack gak until it was mandatory and the tickets starting getting passed out. Automatically Appended Next Post: Jihadin wrote: kronk wrote: Jihadin wrote:Have to hit them where it really hurts.......................the WALLETS or Purses
They live in 3 million dollar homes and drive a Ferrari for their everyday car.
A $100 ticket for watering my lawn in a drought? feth off. I spend that on shampoo in a month.
Hehe who says just one fine though
Perhaps. We'll see if they make them incremental enough to matter.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/06 18:34:42
Subject: Looks like one group is ignoring the new California water restrictions
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Dreadclaw69 wrote:"Voluntary" restrictions, coupled with "education" on the water issue. Don't expect anything to happen until it is mandatory, and even then there will be kicking and screaming.
If people are smart they would boost their water usage immediately by 25%. That way when they are cut back by rationing by 20%, they are ahead of the game.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/06 18:34:56
Subject: Re:Looks like one group is ignoring the new California water restrictions
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Cali is trying to get water rights in Oregon and Washington state to help offset
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/06 18:43:38
Subject: Re:Looks like one group is ignoring the new California water restrictions
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Jihadin wrote:Cali is trying to get water rights in Oregon and Washington state to help offset
if they are smart Oregon and Washington should immediately declare war. Lumberjacks vs. Hollywood attorneys who will be the Ultimate Warrior!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/06 18:47:38
Subject: Looks like one group is ignoring the new California water restrictions
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Well, the problem is that San Diego County alone nearly matches the entire state of Oregon on population, much less LA/Riverside/Orange/etc .
I don't think it would be Hollywood attorneys being sent, but a mobilized Compton and East LA
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/06 18:51:24
Subject: Looks like one group is ignoring the new California water restrictions
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Given the amount of taxes you gotta pay, I think it's fair and square.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/06 18:54:27
Subject: Looks like one group is ignoring the new California water restrictions
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Would be fun to watch if they rationed water for the rich. Once they run out, no more water.
Hey, I can dream.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/06 20:19:44
Subject: Looks like one group is ignoring the new California water restrictions
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Deva Functionary
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Don't rich all have stocked wine cellars? They can just wait it out. Or fly to cancoon to bathe.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/06 20:46:48
Subject: Re:Looks like one group is ignoring the new California water restrictions
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Hooded Inquisitorial Interrogator
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You see, what people aren't realising is that it's ok for rich people to have more water, because, when they use it on their gardens, it's going to trickle down to the yards of poorer people, thus ensuring that there is more water all round.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/06 20:50:15
Subject: Looks like one group is ignoring the new California water restrictions
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Member of the Ethereal Council
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I have an idea, making green lawns illegal, don't make watering lawns illegal, making having green lawns illegal.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/06 20:51:48
Subject: Looks like one group is ignoring the new California water restrictions
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Laemos wrote:Don't rich all have stocked wine cellars? They can just wait it out. Or fly to cancoon to bathe.
they have
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/06 21:01:34
Subject: Looks like one group is ignoring the new California water restrictions
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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They use all the water to turn it into wine
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/06 21:19:08
Subject: Looks like one group is ignoring the new California water restrictions
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Whoa.....JC that rich?!?!?!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/06 22:11:28
Subject: Looks like one group is ignoring the new California water restrictions
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Solution is simple: water wasters are bourgeois parasites and enemies of the people. Send them for educational holiday to coal mines of Vorkuta (or whatever really cold, really remote places the US has).
US needs to learn more lessons from I.V. Stalin.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/06 22:35:57
Subject: Looks like one group is ignoring the new California water restrictions
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The public uses so little water compared to the farmers in the state, until their usage is lowered you won't see a difference.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/06 22:57:33
Subject: Re:Looks like one group is ignoring the new California water restrictions
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Wonder if Cali looked into Water Desalination plants
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/06 23:04:56
Subject: Re:Looks like one group is ignoring the new California water restrictions
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Some hippy type probably got some "information" from an infowars type of website that decries the evil of desalination.... and some ultra donkey cave actor would probably through a bitch fit over someone "ruining" their coastline.
I agree that Oregon and Washington should, in no way shape or form provide water to those idiots in Cali.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/06 23:08:53
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Ensis Ferrae wrote:
Some hippy type probably got some "information" from an infowars type of website that decries the evil of desalination.... and some ultra donkey cave actor would probably through a bitch fit over someone "ruining" their coastline.
I agree that Oregon and Washington should, in no way shape or form provide water to those idiots in Cali.
AGREED. Now they can take the money they use to give Illega................never mind
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/06 23:10:54
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Jihadin wrote: Ensis Ferrae wrote:
Some hippy type probably got some "information" from an infowars type of website that decries the evil of desalination.... and some ultra donkey cave actor would probably through a bitch fit over someone "ruining" their coastline.
I agree that Oregon and Washington should, in no way shape or form provide water to those idiots in Cali.
AGREED. Now they can take the money they use to give Illega................never mind
Also... Nevada, Oregon and Arizona should build coinjoining walls on all borders with California  
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/06 23:40:42
Subject: Looks like one group is ignoring the new California water restrictions
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Fixture of Dakka
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juraigamer wrote:The public uses so little water compared to the farmers in the state, until their usage is lowered you won't see a difference.
How could water be cut back on an industry that needs it to raise crops and livestock?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/06 23:43:29
Subject: Re:Looks like one group is ignoring the new California water restrictions
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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How many would have to get laid off as farms shut down?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/06 23:45:11
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Fixture of Dakka
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Hard to say, but I just found this article that talks about some farmers selling their water off instead of planting. This'll go down well for food prices if this is wide spread.
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/california-drought/grow-crops-or-sell-water-california-farmers-face-dilemma-n335696
This drought could hurt us bad food wise:
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/california-water-drought-measures-spare-farmers/
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/07 00:02:22
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Hallowed Canoness
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Arizona's been working on a wall for awhile now
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/07 00:11:15
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Hard to keep an accurate count when you have illegals working off the books
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Inside Yvraine
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California provides iirc over 50% of America's produce.
So you will give us that water, you damn traitors!
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