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Calculating Commissar




pontiac, michigan; usa

Ok so this might be the weirdest thing i've suggested but i've been thinking of taking a chieftain on a flying carpet and using it for various things (taking out chaff, getting at a war machine or just being annoying in general).

Even weirder i've even been questioning my sanity if i want to to take a warlord or plague priest even on a pox rat. This may sound strange but hear me out. You see the pox rat handles things for cavalry considerations and unlike most skaven which have no swiftstride possibilities the pox rat actually has one while on its own. If nothing else this can help it in routing fleeing enemies whether after a combat that matters or in a battle versus chaff that chooses to flee or ends up fleeing due to losing combat. Considering all the attacks happen faster than most chaff this should also be helpful in killing them.

Hopefully this isn't too weird but all i know is 3d6 take the two highest or 3d6 after a combat from an abomination or doomwheel (though you shouldn't get a doomwheel into combat normally) tends to help at killing slower fleeing units. Not to mention it might catch the opponent off-guard that probably won't even bother killing it due to how it is. Also if we're talking a warlord on pox rat think about how easily 3d6 take the two highest with an extra plus 1" for scurry away would help when trying to re-direct some enemies or just be in general annoying.

The problem with the pox rat though is even with just the warlord and pox rat with minimum gear the cost would be significantly high.

For the most part i probably wouldn't take it except as a way to make sure running down the enemy will happen after a fight where it matters most.

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Biloxi, MS USA

If I'm reading this right, you basically want to make a Skaven version of the Captasus?

That's actually a pretty interesting idea, I hadn't thought of it before.

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Oceanside, CA

To gain the use of the pox rats speed, you have to only be alone. If you stick him in a unit, they will slow him down.

So now you're looking at a Ld6 hero or Ld7 lord who isn't immune to panic.

It's doable, but it is far from optimal.

 thedarkavenger wrote:

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Calculating Commissar




pontiac, michigan; usa

 HawaiiMatt wrote:
To gain the use of the pox rats speed, you have to only be alone. If you stick him in a unit, they will slow him down.

So now you're looking at a Ld6 hero or Ld7 lord who isn't immune to panic.

It's doable, but it is far from optimal.


If you use him to re-direct you don't want him to be immune to panic. That way you can 3d6 take the two highest and then scurry away an extra inch out of there.

I'm actually thinking a chieftain on a flying carpet is better since it also has swiftstride with flying but it also has better movement and the ability to of course fly. Also it's a cheaper option for what i want to do.

Also if i were ever to take the plague priest on pox rat then chances are i'd probably use it to kill chaff if even possible. Imagine just how tough it'll be for chaff to deal with a toughness 5 dude. That said i still can't enjoy frenzied dudes so it probably wouldn't happen.

Also the main difference with a warlord on their own is they're at leadership 7 and a chieftain or plague priest is at leadership 6. Sure it's not great but since they're not in a unit they won't have to deal with being under 25% and will always rally at their leadership until death. The only problem really is if they get sniped and this shouldn't be a huge deal really.

Oh and a really great thing about dealing with chaff with this is the initiative and WS are usually much higher which should even mess up elves and their ASF and if they take light cavalry and charge a guy on a flying carpet then they get at most 2 models to attack you (25 mm front going against a 20 mm front and all).

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Without immune to panic, you'll be testing against Ld6 anytime a nearby unit of skaven is wiped out or breaks.
That happens... a lot.

I actually like the plague priest on carpet idea. 166 for T5 with a censor, and you can still claim a look out (on a 4+).

Either way, I think you need a standard of discipline in with the general so you're either taking panic tests at Ld8 or restraining the charge on Ld8.
Ideally, also near the BSB for the re-roll.


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I've nvr seen the flying carpet character done with skaven, but I have with O&G and it works well enough. I underestimated it. I think skaven could do it better. IMO, I'd build a warlord. No, not as cheap, but the xtra magic item allowance could go far but on the same note, it is more points to pour into a rather vulnerable character

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I'm currently building a warlord on a Bonebreaker Rat Ogre. Not optimal but definitely fun.

   
 
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