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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/10 09:25:09
Subject: Skitarii Conversion Field
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Outraged Witness
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If the Conversion Field works, then…
...all units within D6” of the bearer must test as if they had been hit by a weapon with the Blind special rule. Friendly units can re-roll this test.
According to the Blind rules…
Should the attacking unit hit themselves…they automatically pass the test.
If the Conversion Field works, does the unit using it need to make a Blind test, or does the “Friendly units” part only refer to other nearby units on your side?
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2015/04/10 09:25:31
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/10 09:29:57
Subject: Skitarii Conversion Field
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Confessor Of Sins
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SKWAAAARK wrote:If the Conversion Field works, then…
...all units within D6” of the bearer must test as if they had been hit by a weapon with the Blind special rule. Friendly units can re-roll this test.
According to the Blind rules…
Should the attacking unit hit themselves…they automatically pass the test.
If the Conversion Field works, does the unit using it need to make a Blind test, or does the “Friendly units” part only refer to other nearby units on your side?
I'd say "other" friendlies only. Not the model's own unit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/10 09:33:05
Subject: Skitarii Conversion Field
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Outraged Witness
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That was my original thought, but then I started thinking about the D6" range. It seems pretty unlikely that it would ever hit another friendly unit, so why bother with the "friendly" part of the rule at all?
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2015/04/10 09:33:54
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/10 09:37:40
Subject: Re:Skitarii Conversion Field
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Confessor Of Sins
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If you are in a multi-Unit close combat (which is quite likely seeing a few of the new Admech are fast and pretty killy in CC) then you are very likely to have a model from another Unit within D6", especially if the model equipped is a character (that will often challenge).
Covering their bases i guess?
Unless their RaI was based on the blind "affecting" your own Unit rather that "Hit", and the second quote would not apply? But that seems like a stretch...
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DA:80-S+G+M+B++I-Pw40k01++D+++A+++WD100R++T(T)DM+
Roronoa Zoro wrote:When the world shoves you around, you just gotta stand up and shove back. It's not like somebody's gonna save you if you start babbling excuses. - Bring on the hardship. It's preferred in a path of carnage. Manchu wrote:
It's like you take a Space Marine and say "what could make him cooler?" Instead of adding more super-genetic-psycho-organic modification, you take it all away. You have a regular human left in power armor and all the armies of hell at the gates. And she doesn't even flinch. Pure. Badass. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/10 09:40:11
Subject: Skitarii Conversion Field
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Scarred Ultramarine Tyrannic War Veteran
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It seems to me that the bearer's unit must test as if they had been hit by a weapon with the Blind special rule as per the Conversion Field rules... but it automatically passes as per the Blind rules.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/10 13:34:02
Subject: Skitarii Conversion Field
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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Wow, guess I've been playing my conversion field librarians wrong this whole time. I do genuinely think the blind rule would mean you can't blind yourself.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/10 13:41:45
Subject: Skitarii Conversion Field
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Confessor Of Sins
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kingbobbito wrote:I do genuinely think the blind rule would mean you can't blind yourself.
That's what we're all agreeing on?
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DA:80-S+G+M+B++I-Pw40k01++D+++A+++WD100R++T(T)DM+
Roronoa Zoro wrote:When the world shoves you around, you just gotta stand up and shove back. It's not like somebody's gonna save you if you start babbling excuses. - Bring on the hardship. It's preferred in a path of carnage. Manchu wrote:
It's like you take a Space Marine and say "what could make him cooler?" Instead of adding more super-genetic-psycho-organic modification, you take it all away. You have a regular human left in power armor and all the armies of hell at the gates. And she doesn't even flinch. Pure. Badass. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/10 16:21:03
Subject: Skitarii Conversion Field
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Irked Necron Immortal
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As per the BRB "..If the attacking unit hits themselves they auto-pass..."
Conversion field has no weapon profile and doesn't shoot or count as a weapon in melee.
There is no attack being made when the Blind test occurs. Ergo, the squad and any unit within d6" makes the save with friendly units haveing a re-roll
At least that is my interpretation
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/11 10:48:24
Subject: Re:Skitarii Conversion Field
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Mysterious Techpriest
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...all units within D6” of the bearer must test as if they had been hit by a weapon with the Blind special rule. Friendly units can re-roll this test.
While the field is not a weapon, you treat the effect as if it was.
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