Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you: No adverts like this in the forums anymore. Times and dates in your local timezone. Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance. Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely. Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net. If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

Hey! First Dakka thread.
Down to business, I play IG and my friend/most common gaming partner plays chaos. I don't have much infantry so to meet the points limit, I have to go mech. This would not be too big of a problem since I was planning on playing mech anyway as guard, but sadly there's a catch. Even though we play on almost full board size, he can take a maulerfiend which destroys my tank line. He only takes a single one as he doesn't want to be too cheesy but it still can kill a tank by turn two, making back it's points easily. It then rampages through my lines and I end up having no fun as I don't get to shoot anything else :/ . I'd really like some help if you can offer it. I don't mind proxying, so suggest any models but I only have 25 guardsmen. Thanks in advance!

Maybe you should bring more long range anti tank? It's fairly fragile and one immobilized result will turn it into junk. There's also the option of tieing it up with troops, not sure what IG have but the maulerfiend is really bad at killing infantry.

Melta vets?

like.. turn two? tanks have 12" move. you do not have to be assaulted turn 2.

I have never known a single mauler fiend to connect.

just put some infantry in the way, its sucks against them.

Maulerfiends are cheesy now?... What the heck have I missed?! lol

Seriously though, Put some conscripts in front of your Tanks, they get charged, it's stuck forever because it blows in CC against anything WS3 or higher. Chaos Walkers in General blow chunks in CC against anything with a WS.... It's actually pathetic really. Here we have these supposed monstrous machines of war, solely created to bust through and demolish enemy walkers, Mcs and literally created and fueled by hate and carnage. But they can't hit for crap because they are WS3 and get tied down and murdered by Marines with Krak Grenades lol..

You sing the song of my people

 GoliothOnline wrote:
Maulerfiends are cheesy now?... What the heck have I missed?! lol

Seriously though, Put some conscripts in front of your Tanks, they get charged, it's stuck forever because it blows in CC against anything WS3 or higher. Chaos Walkers in General blow chunks in CC against anything with a WS.... It's actually pathetic really. Here we have these supposed monstrous machines of war, solely created to bust through and demolish enemy walkers, Mcs and literally created and fueled by hate and carnage. But they can't hit for crap because they are WS3 and get tied down and murdered by Marines with Krak Grenades lol..

He apparently doesn't want to get more troops.

Best case senario deploy properly and dakka the gak out of it with a punisher pask and watch it get glanced to death. or have a few melta vets nearby to take care of it once it rips through its chimera.

IG should be shutting down a single Maulerfiend no problem. Post your list and maybe we can offer some target prioritization match ups for you. Just saying, "I can't kill this thing - how do I do it?" doesn't really help since we have no clue what you're working with.

PS: 25 infantry models isn't enough for IG unless you want to go 2x Vet squads as your minimum Troops requirement.

Thanks for responding! Let me clear a few things up. I play on a smaller table, so the maulerfiend easily has enough movement. Although the maulerfiend may not be cheesy in most metas, there are a couple of factors that make multiple maulerfiends seemingly unwinnable for me: smaller table, tank focussed army and lack of infantry bubblewrap. I also have no problem buying more infantry, it's actually my next buy after what I have gets painted up. I was just saying that's all I have as of now.

I can't give an exact list, as it changes frequently but I'll do my best to give general idea.

Pask in punisher w/ executioner as HQ
2xveteransquad w/ melta or plasma
2x Wyvern
1 manticore
2 other leman russ types.

I'm not trying to claim this unit is god, just not fun for me to play against.

Edit: I should add that he usually allies with my other Eldar friend who brings other high priority targets, nothin too troubling though

So for mono e mono all you really need to do is screen with the melta vets in a chimera of sorts

The mauler is going to maul it open but it gives you at least two turns to shoot it with melta guns before it gets into the russes or artillery.


If you cannot take it down with melta guns then you are probably some flavor of cursed and should probably go get that removed.

you dont need more than that.

ArcaneYoyo wrote:


Pask in punisher w/ executioner as HQ
2xveteransquad w/ melta or plasma
2x Wyvern
1 manticore
2 other leman russ types.

I'm not trying to claim this unit is god, just not fun for me to play against.

Edit: I should add that he usually allies with my other Eldar friend who brings other high priority targets, nothin too troubling though

So just to be clear..., You find one Walker that his sole job is to hunt down tanks and is mediocre Vs anything else, and that can kill AT MOST 1 tank per turn, not fun...while you Have the Paskisher with 20Str6 shots who can wreck whole units with this many shots.

Interesting...

Thanks for the help, I'll use these tips in my next game. Also, pumisher shots are st5 which normally cannot harm AV 12

Between 2 melta vet squads and a rending punisher you should have little trouble taking out a maulerfiend.

ArcaneYoyo wrote:
Thanks for the help, I'll use these tips in my next game. Also, pumisher shots are st5 which normally cannot harm AV 12

Yeah my bad Pask give them Rending not flat +1Str, but rending is still better.

If Pask is your warlord, he should blow it away in one round of shooting, especially if he's got Multimelta sponsons.