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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/29 00:21:11
Subject: Low model count armies
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Sword-Bearing Inquisitorial Crusader
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Hey I was just wondering what kind of non- unbound armies can do a very nice low model count in the 1500-1850 brackets?
I am looking for ideas on an army I can travel with, one that is decent on the table but fun at the same time. Id like to keep it pretty standard so im not looking into unbound lists, I enjoy some structure when building my lists  most armies i see today spam the  out of all kinds of stuff and to me that seems super repetitive. I already have an army like that and now im looking for variety for my next project.
I know grey knights are based around it but what about nids and daemons? Do they still have semi respectable low model count builds? Is there a SM chapter build that can do it quite well?
Thanks Dakka
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/29 00:22:35
Subject: Low model count armies
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Auspicious Daemonic Herald
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Imperial Knights
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/29 00:45:45
Subject: Low model count armies
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Thinking of Joining a Davinite Loge
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At 1500 you could go with a Adeptus titanicus leviathan force org featuring two warhounds or one reaver.
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There is no Zuul, there is only war!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/29 00:49:26
Subject: Low model count armies
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Tunneling Trygon
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Nids are hard to do well with low model counts. I play Nidzilla, but I'd be a bit lost if I subbed my Termagants for smaller units like Warriors. Other than needing a decent amount of troops, Nids can do alright, just be prepared to field 20-30 Termagants
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Hive Fleet Aquarius 2-1-0
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/29 01:08:07
Subject: Low model count armies
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Tunneling Trygon
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Grey Knights and Deathwing Dark Angels are the common ones. But I would love to see a Blood Angel Archangel's Detachment. No uber special rules, but an army of Terminators, Sternguard, Dreadnaughts and HQs in Terminator armor would be something to see. Throw in a Stormwing Formation for Stormraven fun and there ya go.
Nidzilla can also be done with Mucoloid Spores filling the Troops slot. No need for Warriors or Gaunts in the CAD/Leviathan Detachment Six Carnifex of various flavors in two broods, three Flyrants, a Tyrannofex or Mawloc, some Venomthropes in the mix, two sets of Zoanthropes in a Tyrannocytes. Throw in a Hierodule too because it's big. Look at the Bio Blast Node and Living Artillary Node though to free up some Heavy Support slots. You can never have enough HS slots with Nidzilla.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/29 02:00:37
Subject: Low model count armies
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Sword-Bearing Inquisitorial Crusader
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Haha see the nids are becoming more tempting and I enjoy all the positive feed back!
I always forget Knights can go solo, they are always allies in my eyes haha
BA, oh BA, part of me wants to run them soooo bad haha
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/29 02:17:38
Subject: Low model count armies
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Tunneling Trygon
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It's hard to say no to Blood Angels. And there are ways to make them more palatable for this type of thing. Just understand right from the start, you're not getting Initiative 5. Don't want it. Cause if you do, your entire plan is going to be ruined. I wanted Initiative 5 and now I have no Archangels and just a normal force led by Dante...
But, using the Archangels Detachment you get rerolls for Reserves and only D6 Scatter. Add in Sanguine Wing for 340pts of free Power Weapons and Combiweapons on two Vanguard and a Sternguard squad in a Stormraven, that's a good '2nd Wave' force that comes in when it does, also rerollable. Maybe that's not as 'Low Model Count' and more of a 'Elite Company' thing, but it can still be fun.
Terminator Captain/Chaplain, Terminator Assault Squad in a Redeemer, Sternguard squads in transports like Las/Plas Razorbacks, a Furioso in a Pod, maybe another Terminator squad Deep Striking in, then the two Vanguard with Power Weapons and the Sternguard in a Stormraven on Turn 2+. Not sure the points value but it has a nice ring to it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/29 04:48:54
Subject: Low model count armies
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Indiana
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Company of the Great wolf and X chapter.
I enjoyed grav cents in pods allied to company of the great wolf. Low model count and has a high damage output
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/29 07:02:25
Subject: Low model count armies
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Been Around the Block
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I play draigostar... Very competitive, no spam, low model count, fun once you perfect using it... Highly suggest this army
Also it's out of favor / not as popular anymore so not a common army to see
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/29 08:31:27
Subject: Low model count armies
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Frenzied Berserker Terminator
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IH tactics with a MotF can run dreadnoughts as elites and heavies. Toss them all in drop pods with 2x LSS and scouts filling your troop slots. Then add in a Chapter Master with a load of Honor Guard in a DT. Fast attack for flavour. That's six pods, 2 speeders, one raider and whatever you want for FA. Probably 3 Talons haha!
That would be 12 units on the table and you could do all sorts of fun stuff.
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Gets along better with animals... Go figure. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/29 08:38:25
Subject: Low model count armies
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Wraithknights, assassins and a couple of drop pods.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/29 08:57:23
Subject: Low model count armies
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Perfect Shot Dark Angels Predator Pilot
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Green Angels Deathwing regular termies can mix and match ass/tac termie weapons so very flexible.
Deathwing knight for that one trick pony kill absolutely everything in melee.
Usually with two landraiders that you can really sink points into.
Gives a lot of options for deployment
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A Dark Angel fell on a watcher in the Dark Shroud silently chanted Vengance on the Fallen Angels to never be Unforgiven |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/29 18:14:05
Subject: Low model count armies
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Shas'la with Pulse Carbine
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I am voting for GK here. Pretty much the epitome of low model count, fighting the odds army.
I enjoy putting oh say 25-30 models against double or triple that (even 4x!)
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Down with Allies, Solo 2016! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/29 18:26:48
Subject: Low model count armies
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Killer Klaivex
Oceanside, CA
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Hawkeye888 wrote:I am voting for GK here. Pretty much the epitome of low model count, fighting the odds army.
I enjoy putting oh say 25-30 models against double or triple that (even 4x!)
Eldar. Windrider host is 11 models.
After that, you can add well equipped wraithlords and wraith knights, and show up with ~20 models at 1850 points.
Last stand of the dying race and all...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/29 18:38:55
Subject: Low model count armies
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Homicidal Veteran Blood Angel Assault Marine
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My uncle plays a list of 8 Soul Grinders/Defilers with the Khorne Daemonkin codex.
He has something like 30 models on the board, propably less (in a 1850p list).
Seems pretty fun, kind of fluffy and he even managed to school a competitive Tau list the other day.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/29 18:59:34
Subject: Low model count armies
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Speedy Swiftclaw Biker
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GK and Deathwing. Of course, Imperial Knights... but not easy to travel with.
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penguineater91
Space Wolves (Weirwolves) - 1500
Orks - 1000 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/29 19:17:06
Subject: Low model count armies
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Enigmatic Chaos Sorcerer
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Farsight All suit army can be low model count and effective.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/29 22:14:14
Subject: Low model count armies
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Sword-Bearing Inquisitorial Crusader
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Hmmm GK and Farsight are sounding very tempting, I'm loving the input about all the low model count armies aswell! That daemon one sounds really effective.
The other day I ran a DE list with 18 grots, a few wracks and a few pain engines, slow but I had a blast getting into CC with things haha
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/30 12:58:44
Subject: Low model count armies
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Shas'la with Pulse Carbine
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HawaiiMatt wrote: Hawkeye888 wrote:I am voting for GK here. Pretty much the epitome of low model count, fighting the odds army.
I enjoy putting oh say 25-30 models against double or triple that (even 4x!)
Eldar. Windrider host is 11 models.
After that, you can add well equipped wraithlords and wraith knights, and show up with ~20 models at 1850 points.
Last stand of the dying race and all...
You my friend, are brave if you play this.
I think with my GK I have something like this
Librarian
Brother-capt
5 paladins
2x5 terminator squads
DreadKnight
Land raider
Draigo
20 models on the dot. I played this against a buddies Nids. That was epic. He played somewhere in the range of 120 models. The brother-capt was in the squad of termies and hacking through hordes and everyone died but him. Litterally him surrounded by 20+ gaunts. It was feeding time...
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Down with Allies, Solo 2016! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/30 14:44:15
Subject: Low model count armies
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Nurgle Chosen Marine on a Palanquin
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GK:
libby, 2 DK, 1 TDA, 2 paladin units 1500pt
Daemons have a bundle of options.
Flying circus (2 greater, 3 daemon prince, 6 nurglings)
Pretty much any combo of 2 greater daemons, 6 nurglings, and whatever else you want.
SW:
TWC armies keep it low, toss in the flyer for even less models.
All dreadnoughts (less viable than TWC)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/30 15:19:27
Subject: Low model count armies
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The Marine Standing Behind Marneus Calgar
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I know this goes counter to what others have been saying, but have you considered just using a ton of footsloggers? Something like an Imp. Fist gunline.
If what you are looking for is a portable army, sometimes model count is not what you are after, but how well it packs. I was recently looking over all of my foam trays from KR, and thinking about models and storage. 2 drop pods take up half a KRU. That same space could be used to store 100 marines (1/4 deep trays, 25 marines per tray) Even if you use more roomy trays, like the 1/3 deep ones that only hold 20 guys, that’s still 60 power armored bodies for the same space. Or 24 bikes.
Looking at the trays I have, fitting into one KRU worth of space:
60 guys, 1 pod, 3 rhinos
9 sternguard, drop pod w/ HQ
3x full tac squads in rhinos
2x 5 man dev squads
2x 5 man assault squads
Should be a fluffy and fun ~1,500 point army. 60 troops and 4 vehicles is not low model count, but it does pack well. If you want low model count for painting reasons, obviously ignore what I’m saying. But while some armies have a low count, they are also high space. Your basic marine is a very compact bundle of points.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/01 19:05:03
Subject: Low model count armies
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Stealthy Warhound Titan Princeps
Phoenix, AZ, USA
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gwarsh41 wrote:GK:
libby, 2 DK, 1 TDA, 2 paladin units 1500pt
Daemons have a bundle of options.
Flying circus (2 greater, 3 daemon prince, 6 nurglings)
Pretty much any combo of 2 greater daemons, 6 nurglings, and whatever else you want.
SW:
TWC armies keep it low, toss in the flyer for even less models.
All dreadnoughts (less viable than TWC)
I normally 1 Libby, 10 GKT, 5 GKIS, 2 NDK, and Draigo at 1500, which is only 19 models. Drop dome bling and add an Errant to get 20 models at 1850.
SJ
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/01 20:42:37
Subject: Re:Low model count armies
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Veteran Wolf Guard Squad Leader
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My farsight army at 1500 is roughly:
Farsight
Iontide
3 Crisis Plas/Flamer (farsight goes here)
2 Crisis 2Pods Drone cont., 4 marker drones
2 Crisis 2Pods Drone cont., 4 marker drones
2X Fusion Suit
2X Fusion Suit
2 Remoras
Hammerhead
24 models give or take, super fun list to play and relatively balanced.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/02 03:36:46
Subject: Re:Low model count armies
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World-Weary Pathfinder
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Imperial Guard Steel Host Formation.
It's something like a total of 10 tanks. Leman Russ Chassis all stack nicely next to each other and it's easy to rack up a lot of points to move from 1500-1850 or whatnot with upgrades for the various tanks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/02 08:24:25
Subject: Re:Low model count armies
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Douglas Bader
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Ok, important question here: do you want a low model count army, or do you want an army that is easy to travel with? They are not necessarily the same thing. For example, you can build an army of nothing but knights but the cases required to travel with it will be bigger than the ones required for most horde armies.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/02 15:25:11
Subject: Low model count armies
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Sword-Bearing Inquisitorial Crusader
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@Peregrine you know this started out as low model count for transportation purposes but as nevelon stated about horde armies being good transports i see now that as an interesting option. Then somewhere in the mix of this i became truly intersted on how these low model count armies fair in everyones meta, what are some good matchup? What are some bad matchups? My own personal meta doesnt see these low count armies much if at all so now im curious about them lol
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/02 16:16:50
Subject: Low model count armies
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The Marine Standing Behind Marneus Calgar
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Low model count armies tend to suffer from rock/paper/scissor play more then most. If you happen across your hard counter, there is not a lot of room to deal.
A slightly dated example. Back in 5th, when GK’s were pulling wound allocation tricks with paladins, they were a very competitive low model count army, and terrorized the local scene. But when a friend of mine showed up with his SoB army, he stopped them cold. The ability to get a reasonable number of S8 AP1 shots just made the knights vaporize. Sisters weren’t anything resembling top tier, and got stuffed by a lot more reasonable armies, but had just enough of the right stuff to stop that one build.
Imperial knights can do mean things to stuff on the ground, but are almost useless vs. flyers. This might change with the new ones coming out, but it’s still a big gap in their coverage.
If you build your army around one unkillable deathstar, you might have problems vs. MSU or objective games. There are only so many places your one unit can be/units it can kill in a turn.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/02 23:11:34
Subject: Re:Low model count armies
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Dakka Veteran
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Low model count army that can pretty much handle whatever:
Imperial Knights primary detachment
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Crimson Hunter Formation.
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GG.
1 Imperial knights primary detachment:
3 Imperial Knight Paladins(1 is warlord)
1 Crimson Death Formation:
3 Crimson Hunters w/1 Exarch
1 Eldar CAD:
1 Autarch on Jetbike w/Fusion Gun, Firesabre, Banshee Mask
6 Windrider Jetbikes w/Scatter Lasers
TOTALS: 13 Models, 1842 Points, 0 friends.
EDIT: Removed points breakdown because rules.
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