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So I've just picked up some Space Wolves as my next army, and what I like about them apart from the units and the aesthetics is, that there's a broad range of battle brother allies available to any Imperium force. Unfortunately I have a hard time deciding which other human army I like best, so I started thinking - what other force of mankind would the Space Wolves most readily ally with?

I'm guessing Inquisition is pretty much out of the picture , as well as Dark Angels and probably Ultramarines and Imperial Fists due to large differences about the Codex Astartes (Dark Angels actually because of that scrap between their Primarchs).

What about Sororitas or Adeptus Mechanicus? Are there any ties to other organizations?

Thanks for your replies!

The Sororitas are right out. The Adeptus Mechanicus doesn't really have any cause for a tight bond with the Wolves, though if they were the only Chapter available, or if forces of both just happened to be in the same area and had mutual enemies, there's not much preventing them from allying (unlike the Sisters and Inquisition, the Wolves don't have much in the way of long-standing feuds with the Mechanicus).

Guardsmen, Imperial Fists, and Salamanders all make likely friends to the Space Wolves.

Blood Angels would probably be fine. They tend to get along with everyone, right up until they accidentally try to drink your blood. Leman Rus and Sanguinus didn't have a bad relationship, although Good Guy Sanguinus was pretty much friends with everyone.

Guardsmen are hands down the most fluffy ally, IMO. The Wolves are known, alongside the Salamanders, as the humanitarians. On Armageddon (the chaos encounter), they even stood up to the Grey Knights and Inquisition to protect the Guardsmen from being executed for witnesses the Daemonic. Thus, the Imperial Guard, especially the Armageddon Steel Legion, are staunch supporters of the Space Wolves.

Dark Angels can be great allies to Space Wolves, even for just annoy your opponent doing sacred dueld between chapter champions before EVERY battle)

I'd imagine the wolves would be pretty open to an alliance as long as the objective is clearly to defend the IoM and it's citizens. Anyone who can stand working with a bunch of drunkards telling tall stories will be given a chance, if for no other reason than to outshine them in deeds done and kills scored.

Thank you for all those great replies! Out of curiosity - why would you exclude the Sororitas?

I'll definitely look into the Steel Legion, and I just remebered that in IA:11 Bran Redmaws Company fights alongside Cadian Shock Troops against the Eldar. I haven't read the book yet though, it's currently not available on the FW website.

The humanitarian side is something I like about the Space Wolves, too, by the way. Makes them more, well, like a kind protector rather than a distant superhuman.

The Ecclesiarchy consider the space wolves as near heretics, due to their continued belief in gods other than the emperor, so they took something like three order of the sisters of battle to invade Fenris and get them to abandon their wolf gods. The space wolves went on to destroy this force. Now they seem to have a 'do what you want, so long as you work for the imperium' kind of deal

Salamanders are a fluffy one, both are pretty decent to normal humans, and the guard of course.

Clear no is sisters, The inquisition, maybe dark angels depending on their moods.

Actually, the Wolves don't worship any gods. They revere the Emperor and their Primarch, and have a shamanistic belief in the elemental spirits of Fenris, but AFAIK, no actual gods.

But in order of likelyhood for alliances, I'd say it goes something like this:

Imperial Guard/PDFs
"Normal" SM Chapters
Dark Angels / Inquisition (non-hardliner)
Adeptus Mechanicus (more because I don't know of any large Mechanicus presence near Fenris than because of any animosity)
Inquisition (hardline)
"reasonable" Xenos (Eldar, Tau, Orks, Newcrons?)
Ecclesiarchy
Unreasonable Xenos (Oldcrons, Tyranids)
Chaos

Bran Dawri wrote:
Actually, the Wolves don't worship any gods. They revere the Emperor and their Primarch, and have a shamanistic belief in the elemental spirits of Fenris, but AFAIK, no actual gods.

I worded it as gods as I was largely thinking of Morkai, and thought they considered him as a god, or is he more of a spirit type deal?

 Psienesis wrote:
The Sororitas are right out. The Adeptus Mechanicus doesn't really have any cause for a tight bond with the Wolves, though if they were the only Chapter available, or if forces of both just happened to be in the same area and had mutual enemies, there's not much preventing them from allying (unlike the Sisters and Inquisition, the Wolves don't have much in the way of long-standing feuds with the Mechanicus).

Guardsmen, Imperial Fists, and Salamanders all make likely friends to the Space Wolves.

The direct conflict between the Ministorium and the Wolves M.41.886) is, like their conflict with the Inquisition / Grey knights (M.41 444), releatively recent - up till then the Sororitas would likely have viewed them as just another pseudo barbaric Astartes chapter. In the face of enemies of Mankind, both would unite to face them - their interactions could vary in quality - especially in terms of tactics. If the Sororitas were ordered to aid / ally with the Wolves say by an Inquisitor - then there is little room for the Sisters to deny the "request"but its not impossible. After all the Sisters fought alongside the Flesh Tearers recently (and survived).....

 Reinokarite wrote:
Dark Angels can be great allies to Space Wolves, even for just annoy your opponent doing sacred dueld between chapter champions before EVERY battle)

Yep, I came here to post exactly that. DA/SW alliances are fine so long as the 2 HQs have a smackdown before the game. If you're feeling super-fluffy, have the loser start one wound down in the actual game!

Probably another Renegade Chapter, Considering they've killed more servants of the Emperor than a few Renegade Chapters combined.

BlackCadian wrote:
So I've just picked up some Space Wolves as my next army, and what I like about them apart from the units and the aesthetics is, that there's a broad range of battle brother allies available to any Imperium force. Unfortunately I have a hard time deciding which other human army I like best, so I started thinking - what other force of mankind would the Space Wolves most readily ally with?

I'm guessing Inquisition is pretty much out of the picture , as well as Dark Angels and probably Ultramarines and Imperial Fists due to large differences about the Codex Astartes (Dark Angels actually because of that scrap between their Primarchs).

What about Sororitas or Adeptus Mechanicus? Are there any ties to other organizations?

Thanks for your replies!

They dislike the Sororitas and AdMech, but they are willing to ally with any major faction within the IOM for the short term even the Dark Angels as there is a story where they had allied despite their differences and it was very recently.

Also more radical Inquisitors has them as firmer allies along with Black Templars.

The dark angels would make a good team with SW, once the honorary duel is out of the way. I mean, if the dark angels ever wanted outside help (which won't ever happen) with fighting the Fallen, the space wolves would be a really nice choice, I mean they are the executioners for the Emperor. Is it likely the two chapters would be friends? Probably not. Would they go good together if they set aside differences? In my opinion, yes. Personally, I find the feud pretty entertaining, as Lion kill steals from Russ, who gets mad and during the fight Russ starts laughing because of how ridiculous the situation is, only for Lion to misinterpret the reason for laughter, and punch Russ in the head.

The wolves would ally with any IOM faction if at the time of the combined armies it would be considered a good idea.

Especially when you consider that most of the other IOM factions would gladly accept the help of the Wolves for whatever confrontation they are currently dealing with given their reputation for getting the job done.

But truth be told most SM chapters would be considered a valuable ally to anyone.

Gotta go with Dark Angels too. Despite their differences there is plenty of fluff with them allying.

Alternative would be Valhallan imperial guard because ice.

The Adepta Sororitas -- because the Wolves of Fenris do not take "NO" for an answer

Blood Angels is a pretty good bet, but that Dark Angels sacred duel suggestion takes the cake. Afterwards they can be super besties.

The honorary duel would probably increase the relationship between the SW and DA, as the SW would enjoy a good fight and would be happy to serve along a servant of the Emperor that could best them in combat, making them higher up in their regards. If the SW win the duel, they get hammered and go out and fight, DA right behind them.

2BlackJack1 wrote:
The honorary duel would probably increase the relationship between the SW and DA, as the SW would enjoy a good fight and would be happy to serve along a servant of the Emperor that could best them in combat, making them higher up in their regards. If the SW win the duel, they get hammered and go out and fight, DA right behind them.

Eh, I doubt it. The DA are pretty secretive and stick to their own. There are stories of them helping out IG, but even then it's more of a "Because we're here" than actual caring for anyone who isn't DA.


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nareik wrote:
Gotta go with Dark Angels too. Despite their differences there is plenty of fluff with them allying.

Alternative would be Valhallan imperial guard because ice.

What fluff? Most of the fluff has DA operating alone or occasionally with Guard, then leaving immediately once the threat has been purged.

The Wolves have a lot of respect for guardsmen, which is kind of my favorite thing about wolves they give credit where its due that being said virtually every other branch of the Iom is kinda hate them
Smurfs cus they don't follow the codex
Dark Angels cus of ancient beef
Sisters of battle cus they are to rude and bruteish
Blood ravens something about the destruction of the founding legion
Inquisition because the Inquisition is mean to guardsmen
GK same reason
I'm sure there are plenty and f chapters of marines who like them, like the white scars or celestial lions might.

The Space Wolves are willing to put their lives (and the public perception of their honor) on the line in order to protect the ruck and run of the Imperium citizenry. Because of that, the Salamanders will probably be okay with them.

The Guard are definitely the ones they would get along with best, I think.

 jreilly89 wrote:

2BlackJack1 wrote:
The honorary duel would probably increase the relationship between the SW and DA, as the SW would enjoy a good fight and would be happy to serve along a servant of the Emperor that could best them in combat, making them higher up in their regards. If the SW win the duel, they get hammered and go out and fight, DA right behind them.

Eh, I doubt it. The DA are pretty secretive and stick to their own. There are stories of them helping out IG, but even then it's more of a "Because we're here" than actual caring for anyone who isn't DA.


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nareik wrote:
Gotta go with Dark Angels too. Despite their differences there is plenty of fluff with them allying.

Alternative would be Valhallan imperial guard because ice.

What fluff? Most of the fluff has DA operating alone or occasionally with Guard, then leaving immediately once the threat has been purged.

Yes Dark Angels are secretive, but plenty of fluff has dark angels allying with other imperial factions. They are one of the best respected chapters, despite their secrecy. An example straight from the brb rulebook package; the Pandorax campaign they ally with guard and grey knights against daemons, Black Legion and Red Corsairs. Many times DA have allied with SW otherwise we wouldn't know about their ritual honour duel. I'm pretty sure this gets mentioned every codex redo?

Raven Guard, White Scars, Salamanders, Dark Angels to a certain degree.

nareik wrote:

 jreilly89 wrote:

2BlackJack1 wrote:
The honorary duel would probably increase the relationship between the SW and DA, as the SW would enjoy a good fight and would be happy to serve along a servant of the Emperor that could best them in combat, making them higher up in their regards. If the SW win the duel, they get hammered and go out and fight, DA right behind them.

Eh, I doubt it. The DA are pretty secretive and stick to their own. There are stories of them helping out IG, but even then it's more of a "Because we're here" than actual caring for anyone who isn't DA.


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nareik wrote:
Gotta go with Dark Angels too. Despite their differences there is plenty of fluff with them allying.

Alternative would be Valhallan imperial guard because ice.

What fluff? Most of the fluff has DA operating alone or occasionally with Guard, then leaving immediately once the threat has been purged.

Yes Dark Angels are secretive, but plenty of fluff has dark angels allying with other imperial factions. They are one of the best respected chapters, despite their secrecy. An example straight from the brb rulebook package; the Pandorax campaign they ally with guard and grey knights against daemons, Black Legion and Red Corsairs. Many times DA have allied with SW otherwise we wouldn't know about their ritual honour duel. I'm pretty sure this gets mentioned every codex redo?

Maybe pre-Heresy. Post Heresy, I believe they only occasionally ally with other SM factions, most of the time it's Imperial Guard. As far as being best respected, I don't remember the source, but I believe their geneseed is one of the least requested because of their disrespect to the Codex Astartes and the Inquisition in general.

Inquisitors might not trust their secretive nature but there's little evidence of wrong-doing to be found, and most Imperial Citizens will just know that they're one of the original founding Chapters. While the Dark Angels geneseed isn't used very often it is every bit as pure and mutation-free as the UM and they have some incredible political pull. They're the only loyalist Chapter I know of who directly petitioned the High Lords for the founding of a successor and got it through.

I concur that the Wolves would ally with anyone in the IOM, including those they mistrust.

As I recall the duel between the Lion and Russ ended with Jon'son sucker punching Russ after Russ felt honor was satisfied and turned his back. At one time the fluff had both chapters honor-bound to fight a duel on meeting in memory of that event.

That didn't mean the two would not ally of course. IOM forces often fight alongside IOM forces they loathe; just within the Guard/AM just imagine Mordians fighting alongside Catachans and Salvar Chem-dogs for example.

If you're looking for interesting fluff, writing tales of a crusade that forced two rivals to fight alongside one another, and even rely on one another, could be very interesting indeed.

Pairing the boisterous, roaring Wolves and the secretive, taciturn Angels in your force would make for interesting tales and a study in contrasts. Likewise, mingling the Sororitas with the Wolves could also make for a very interesting and satisfying tale.

Don't settle for what is easy or likely. Your force is YOUR set of heroes. Let them be extraordinary. Just be sure you pay heed to the canon fluff.

If your characters act beyond the scope of the 'normal' their trials should be long and hard. Nothing they accomplish should be easy, and they should meet with stern resistance from more conventionally-minded characters both inside and outside their organizations.

The repercussions for atypical respect for traditional enemies should be severe... especially when they finally return to their parent organizations at the end of the campaign, Crusade or whatever. Overcoming that simmering hostility and coming to respect each other in the crucible of war would probably get the force commanders on both sides in all kinds of trouble with their parent organizations.

My two cents.

I would like to add to the matter of sisters and wolves, the two did ally in a novel called the Blood of Asaheim this is a fine example of the wolves allying themselves as they came in with this preconceived notion of what the sisters would be like but didn't allow that to interfere with the mission, The Wolf Guard leader actually developed protective feelings for a particular sister he liked. (I would say love but that would be level 10 heresy)