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Most of the tau products feels pretty well priced to me when compared to the GW standards, with only a very limited number hitting me as overpriced. The few I personally have a problem with are:

crisis suits: I simply feel like they aren't high enough quality to demand 25 dollars a suit. They lack much of flexibility we come to expect from GW and are simply not up to par with the rest of the line.

Sniper drones: They already seem rather meh compared to other heavy choices and at 40 dollars for three drones and a fire warrior it's just absurd. At maybe twenty to twentyfive dollars (in line with the price of stealth suits) they'd be considerable but this is just blatantly overpriced. their only saving grace is that they're easy to convert..

broadsides: My grope with broadsides is that if I only needed to grab one they'd be fine even though I think it's a forty dollar model. Sadly though I need to blow 150$ for an entire squad and at that price I could grab a battle force and have money to spend on paints. I feel like if they had a similar box like the crisis suits do where you get a discount for buying them in bulk (squads of three) i'd be all over it but right now it just feels a bit wrong when for 35 more green backs i can grab a riptide which is far more model per dollar IMO.

I have a few minor gripes about krootox, kroot hounds and vespid prices (why can't they just give you twelve bugs and call it a day? give me a whole squad please) but right now of the three I stated above the suits are the only things I've felt iffy about purchasing and the drones are just so poorly priced I had to say something about them. Seriously, 40 something dollars for 3 drones and a fire warrior?

   
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Don't know about the other two, but Crisis suits are so expensive because people can make a whole army off them. They're still popular no longer how ugly they are

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Could be worse. It could be the fifty-dollar Ironstriders you're expected to field in units of three.

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 AnomanderRake wrote:
Could be worse. It could be the fifty-dollar Ironstriders you're expected to field in units of three.


That is exactly what broadsides are. Unit of 3 for $150 for only ~210 points worth of models.

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 AnomanderRake wrote:
Could be worse. It could be the fifty-dollar Ironstriders you're expected to field in units of three.


Ironstriders almost single handedly put me off of buying skitarii. The pause it gave me was enough for the new army excitement to wear off and let me realize I only really liked the Dune crawler to begin with so I went back to my original plan of splurging on dark eldar
   
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Crisis are rumored to receive a new kit by the end of the year.

Broadsides... we're not lucky, as they're already a new kit


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Remember, GW will tell you that the cost is justified because in reality, your Broadside box has 3 models in it and your Crisis Suit box has 9 models in it.

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Naaris wrote:
Remember, GW will tell you that the cost is justified because in reality, your Broadside box has 3 models in it and your Crisis Suit box has 9 models in it.


Sorry, but I do not understand what you are trying to say. Broadsides come in boxes of 1 and crisis suits in boxes of 1 or 3 (unless you meant to include the drones too)

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Exactly. Each suit comes with 2 drones. So despite how ridiculous it is they'll justify pricing by telling you that you are getting 3 models. 2 of which are rarely used and end up in bitz boxes.

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Naaris wrote:
Exactly. Each suit comes with 2 drones. So despite how ridiculous it is they'll justify pricing by telling you that you are getting 3 models. 2 of which are rarely used and end up in bitz boxes.


with all due respect missile drones are useful and you get marker drone bits in the set. Those are like, the only drones that dont end up wasted.
   
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Jaxler wrote:
Naaris wrote:
Exactly. Each suit comes with 2 drones. So despite how ridiculous it is they'll justify pricing by telling you that you are getting 3 models. 2 of which are rarely used and end up in bitz boxes.


with all due respect missile drones are useful and you get marker drone bits in the set. Those are like, the only drones that dont end up wasted.


I feel missile drones are a complete waste. BS 2 and will cause your expensive broadside unit to fallback off the table edge when 1 single one dies.

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something i hate more about broadsides than their price is that they are monopose on top...especially the railside.

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Some of the aforementioned pricing problems, as well as the fact that Tau are going to be updated soon, are the reasons that I decided to flesh out my Chaos army (using Codex: Khorne Daemonkin) instead of my Tau army. I love Tau, but the last thing I wanted to do was invest in an army and then have the units I bought get hit with the nerf bat or have better models come out for them. Even when I was considering investing in more Tau, I wasn't going to get any Broadsides (even though they are considered a must take for Tau); indeed, I wasn't even going to consider them due to the price. Maybe with the new release we will see a squad kit for them or something.

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lustigjh wrote:
 AnomanderRake wrote:
Could be worse. It could be the fifty-dollar Ironstriders you're expected to field in units of three.


Ironstriders almost single handedly put me off of buying skitarii. The pause it gave me was enough for the new army excitement to wear off and let me realize I only really liked the Dune crawler to begin with so I went back to my original plan of splurging on dark eldar


Yeah, same here. As soon as I started seeing the prices for some of the Skitarii I quickly stopped giving a gak about them. And especially now after the leak of that extremely ugly, toy-like robot model which doesn't fit in with the rest of the line at all that they're going to be getting soon. And then there's the whole "needing 2-3 codices to field a single army" thing, that's kinda off-putting...

Basically what I'm saying is the only thing I liked were the rangers, lol.

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Jaxler wrote:
Naaris wrote:
Exactly. Each suit comes with 2 drones. So despite how ridiculous it is they'll justify pricing by telling you that you are getting 3 models. 2 of which are rarely used and end up in bitz boxes.


with all due respect missile drones are useful and you get marker drone bits in the set. Those are like, the only drones that dont end up wasted.


I feel missile drones are a complete waste. BS 2 and will cause your expensive broadside unit to fallback off the table edge when 1 single one dies.


Exactly, missile drones are a liability. The extra firepower sounds good on paper, but it makes your broadside units more expensive and you also risk losing the entire unit from a failed morale test if a few drones die. Even shield drones aren't that good for the same reason, and it's their job to run in front of bullets for you. One of the stupidest things about the Tau codex and one I really hope gets changed next time, drones need a special rule so that they aren't counted as casualties when they die. It makes no sense whatsoever that fire warriors or a crisis suit squad would run scared when the expendable, over-sized frisbees get blown up. They're not fething pets, you know.

Funnily enough missile drones would have been far more useful in other units, like fire warrior squads...but GW released a day one FAQ that quickly put a stop to that, implying that the missile drone was only ever intended to be used by broadside units (yeah, sure).

 Sir Arun wrote:
something i hate more about broadsides than their price is that they are monopose on top...especially the railside.


Yeah, same here. I really like the design, although I honestly couldn't tell what the hell I was looking at when the pics first leaked because the new silhouette (with the rail rifle at least) is so much more confusing than the old suit, but I'm pretty disappointed in the lack of posability. Shoulder-mounted rifles to match the old model would have looked a lot better in my opinion, they wouldn't be blocking the torso so much and would have given you a tiny bit more freedom in posing the model. I know some people don't like it because it makes the suit look top-heavy, but the broadside is chunky enough that it really doesn't look like it matters that much, especially with the extra bracing that the new legs have on them. Like in Dark Crusade, you can imagine the thing planting its feet into the ground, lowering the cannons, and acting like a moving turret.

I bought a lot of third party guns from Paulson Bits with the intent of mounting them on the shoulders to mimic the silhouette of the old suit, but like many others I'm stuck in that "I have to keep everything offishul!" mindset and ultimately haven't done anything with them, since I'm afraid of rendering $450 worth of models unusable because local stores won't let me use non-GW bits. It's one of those things I really hate GW for, you can spend all that money on their product, and they still get pissy when you glue another company's bits to them, as if spending half a grand on worthless plastic wasn't good enough. If they can't get all of your money then they don't want any of it.

 ZergSmasher wrote:
I wasn't even going to consider them due to the price. Maybe with the new release we will see a squad kit for them or something.


I hope so. I have enough of them myself so I won't be buying any more, but I'd like to see them get a new bundle not unlike the kinda stuff they did for other armies. A box of two for $75 seems reasonable enough.

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missile drones are useful if you spend markerlights with them. If you won't plan on doing that, don't even bother fielding them

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"FW is unbalanced and going to ruin tournaments."
"Name one where it did that."
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Voted Astra Militarum for a chance for them to get nerfed instead of my own army.
 
   
 
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