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You know you see those things in the games workshop webstore that don't need to exist other then for conversions?
.http://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Ork-Goff-Rockers
.http://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Thieving-Grots
.http://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Imperial-Guard-Crew

You think these kind of things need a separate webstore?

(I edited this from actually listening to some of you people. Thats something I don't do a lot)

Yeah because how dare people want interesting or different things in their armies and collections.

I was kinda pissed off for a moment when the Trukk Boyz dissappeared. I'm scooping things in packages as much as possible due to my isolated location and high delivery costs if I bought it all piecemeal. Trukk Boyz recently returned. I'm getting Goff Rockers for my diorama I plan on building and painting as an overall display in-between games. Thieving Grots are also a must for this but they can also proxy in a pinch as extra 'grots and squigs equipment'. Trukk boyz, hands down, will be bought by me (probably 6) and used in games as well as display. Nothing useless about em.

OP, I weep for the barren emptiness of your hobby soul.

wow thieving grots look awesome. Thank you for pointing them out.

I love my goff rockers, suprised they are still in production

What's wrong with the regimental advisors? Those are actual, useful models, that's the astropath, master of ordnance, and officer of the fleet. And they can double as plenty of other stuff too. Kept trying to find that blister at my LGS, didn't want to pay the shipping. And there were actual rules for IG vehicle crews at one point.

Except for some of their more ridiculous looking flyers, I don't have a problem with GW's model range, regardless of whether they're useful. Plenty of 3rd party companies make money selling people replacement wheels, shoulder pads, heads, etc.

No, my problem has always been with the ruleset.

 Azreal13 wrote:
OP, I weep for the barren emptiness of your hobby soul.

My thoughts exactly.

I have those models, you can take them from my cold dead hands.

 orkdwarf wrote:
You know you see those things in the games workshop webstore that don't need to exist?
.http://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Trukk-Boyz
.http://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Ork-Goff-Rockers
.http://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Thieving-Grots
.http://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Imperial-Guard-Crew
.http://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Imperial-Guard-Regimental-Advisors

You think these are needless too?

This thread shouldn't exist. You have no soul man, no soul. I can't imagine the rage you'd feel if you ever seen what GW have done in the past. Chaos Toilet? Drunken Dwarves? Kroot Bird? Davinite Lodge Priest? Enough to make you loose it.

OP has an unpainted Eldar army of only scatterbikes and Wraithknights

Some of those models are great. Bits of history.

OP has an unpainted Eldar army of only scatterbikes and Wraithknights

With allied Riptides. And was possibly in diapers when I began playing and those Goff Rockers first came out.

Later on if I can get my hands on the infamous Ork cheerleader for my diorama, I will. My future Goff Rockers will need a groupie tagging along.

Nothing wrong with any of those, save for perhaps the Trukk Boyz set which appears to be simply a trukk kit and an Ork Boyz kit bundled together, which may be slightly redundant. Unless it offers some discount or advantage over buying separately?

I wish GW still did goofy releases like those Goff Rockers.

I have taken Trukk boyz and regimental advisers of because they are actually useful. Goff rockers are cool but have no rules so are useless, thieving grots have no rules and are useless, IG crew are good to have manning artillery but should come packed so are useless, Is anyone getting my point here? No?


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SBG wrote:
OP has an unpainted Eldar army of only scatterbikes and Wraithknights

Eldar are useless pansy's and for your information, I paint all of my models carefully. In fact I just painted a Death Company dreadnought for my friend.

 orkdwarf wrote:
I have taken Trukk boyz and regimental advisers of because they are actually useful. Goff rockers are cool but have no rules so are useless, thieving grots have no rules and are useless, IG crew are good to have manning artillery but should come packed so are useless, Is anyone getting my point here? No?


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SBG wrote:
OP has an unpainted Eldar army of only scatterbikes and Wraithknights

Eldar are useless pansy's and for your information, I paint all of my models carefully. In fact I just painted a Death Company dreadnought for my friend.

You know what I think is useless?

Codex dark angels codex blood angels codex space wolves codex grey knights

Space marines already have a codex twice as thick as everyone else with the factional rules everyone else deserves. Why does the spoiled-beat whiner army get 5 more?

 orkdwarf wrote:
Goff rockers are cool but have no rules so are useless,

No they're not. They're just begging to be put on the bonnet of an Ork Trukk or Battlewagon. Have you seen the new Mad Max film? Significant portions of the soundtrack are provided by a guy suspended by chains from a truck, playing an electric guitar with a flamethrower built into it.

Now imagine an Ork Warboss riding a Battlewagon with an Ork rock star riding on the roof playing an electric guitar that doubles up as a flamethrower.

thieving grots have no rules and are useless, IG crew are good to have manning artillery but should come packed so are useless, Is anyone getting my point here? No?

Useless to a power gamer who only cares about their possible tactical use in a game.

But to hobbyists, who enjoy modelling unique and characterful models these models are fantastic. Great for dioramas, or for adding fun little details to your models.


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Here you go. Imagine an Ork Battle wagon that looks like this.

Most people can find a use for unique models. I'd hate it if every army had all mono-pose figures... Like Risk, or Monopoly. Boring and flavourless.

Can't you just imagine those thieving grots on a diorama? They're awesome.


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 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:

 orkdwarf wrote:
Goff rockers are cool but have no rules so are useless,

No they're not. They're just begging to be put on the bonnet of an Ork Trukk or Battlewagon. Have you seen the new Mad Max film? Significant portions of the soundtrack are provided by a guy suspended by chains from a truck, playing an electric guitar with a flamethrower built into it.

Now imagine an Ork Warboss riding a Battlewagon with an Ork rock star riding on the roof playing an electric guitar that doubles up as a flamethrower.

thieving grots have no rules and are useless, IG crew are good to have manning artillery but should come packed so are useless, Is anyone getting my point here? No?

Useless to a power gamer who only cares about their possible tactical use in a game.

But to hobbyists, who enjoy modelling unique and characterful models these models are fantastic. Great for dioramas, or for adding fun little details to your models.


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Here you go. Imagine an Ork Battle wagon that looks like this.

All I could think was "WHAT IF IT RAINS?!?" Lol...

OP has never lovingly converted anything in his life.

I remember one time my local GW store was having a Christmas model competition. I submitted a 40k manger scene with a converted grot as baby Jesus.

Its a post apocalyptic Australia. The oceans have dried up leaving behind great salt deserts. I don't think rain is a concern.

 ProwlerPC wrote:
Later on if I can get my hands on the infamous Ork cheerleader for my diorama, I will. My future Goff Rockers will need a groupie tagging along.

If someone kvetches and tells you that there are no Ork Females, because they're genderless fungi, tell that person that those are boob-squigs.

I always thought it was a cross dressed Ork, myself.

You know that the grots and imperial guard crew are both just alternate sculpts for models that do have units.

Grots can be used for mek gunz, grot squads, or used as crew for any of the grot vehicles. Grots are useful in a vast array of orky purposes.

Astra Militarum Crew can be used for crew models for all of the forgeworld artillery units, sabre platforms, the models on heavy weapon teams, any unit with a heavy weapon team in it, crew for any open topped tank, and the guy with gas cans makes an excellent demolition model that will bring a smile to any opponent.

Most of the alternative sculpts can be shoehorned into the current armies with a little imagination and are what gives your army character and that little something extra.

 j31c3n wrote:
OP has never lovingly converted anything in his life.

I remember one time my local GW store was having a Christmas model competition. I submitted a 40k manger scene with a converted grot as baby Jesus.

I am a hobbyist. I am saying its useless INGAME not in the hobby. I like converting. I think the Goff Rockers on a warboss's trukk would be pretty cool. This is only for INGAME usage. If that doesn't clear this up, nothing can.

 orkdwarf wrote:

 j31c3n wrote:
OP has never lovingly converted anything in his life.

I remember one time my local GW store was having a Christmas model competition. I submitted a 40k manger scene with a converted grot as baby Jesus.

I am a hobbyist. I am saying its useless INGAME not in the hobby. I like converting. I think the Goff Rockers on a warboss's trukk would be pretty cool. This is only for INGAME usage. If that doesn't clear this up, nothing can.

But then, I don't see the issue with their being models without an ingame purpose but are useful from a modelling standpoint?

OP just wants to whine. Let him.

Im not sure people should berate the OP so much, I get the impression from this thread and his old threads that this is a very young, misunderstanding wargamer.

This thread should be locked.

These kits may not all have an in-game role, but even the ones that don't are great for conversions. I put the Thieving Grots all over my Battlewagon (link in sig).

But if they aren't needed to get rules, then each one of such things takes away the time and space GW could be spending on making stuff for the game. And who needs conversions anyway? I can understand if someone is doing commission to sell them, but they aren't needed at all for gaming. Your opponent won't even noticed them anyway.

WHY DO PEOPLE HATE ME SO MUCH! I CAN HAVE AN OPINION CAN'T I?!