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Terminators have teleports, yea? What will happen if they teleport to some place where something else is present? Will it break? Will they both break? Maybe teleport won't work at all?

It's not the exact same teleporting technology, but this is the principle behind Ork Shokk Attack Guns - the results are messy, to be sure.

Nah, ships have teleport. Terminators are the ones who use the ships' teleporters. They teleport you through the warp, so it's very dangerous even when the teleport goes smoothly and you should have good armor if you're going to do it frequently.

If you teleport into solid matter, you get stuck in it and your organs don't work so you die horribly.

So they can suicide telefrag,i got it

If you teleport into something, you basically meld with it.

Every other atom is a you-atom, and every other atom is belonging to the rock you just teleported into. It's like two books being joined together, page by page.

The death, while instant, is also rather terrifying.

Of course if you get lucky and only partially teleporters into something you might survive. Now you will lose whatever body part is lodged in there of course, but it's possible it's just and arm or leg.

Aye, such telefrag would be a roll of 20 And then get some badass augmetics

 Ashiraya wrote:
If you teleport into something, you basically meld with it.

Every other atom is a you-atom, and every other atom is belonging to the rock you just teleported into. It's like two books being joined together, page by page.

The death, while instant, is also rather terrifying.

That doesn't make sense. Wouldn't that mean even if you teleport in atmosphere you'd suddenly turn into 50% atmospheric gases? That would not be good even for the Emperor's finest.

 TheCustomLime wrote:

 Ashiraya wrote:
If you teleport into something, you basically meld with it.

Every other atom is a you-atom, and every other atom is belonging to the rock you just teleported into. It's like two books being joined together, page by page.

The death, while instant, is also rather terrifying.

That doesn't make sense. Wouldn't that mean even if you teleport in atmosphere you'd suddenly turn into 50% atmospheric gases? That would not be good even for the Emperor's finest.

I always assumed that energy is released first where the teleportal happens that remove dust and air all around just before the teleportation happens. while solid things wont really move. (Terminator da movie esk)

 Desubot wrote:

 TheCustomLime wrote:

 Ashiraya wrote:
If you teleport into something, you basically meld with it.

Every other atom is a you-atom, and every other atom is belonging to the rock you just teleported into. It's like two books being joined together, page by page.

The death, while instant, is also rather terrifying.

That doesn't make sense. Wouldn't that mean even if you teleport in atmosphere you'd suddenly turn into 50% atmospheric gases? That would not be good even for the Emperor's finest.

I always assumed that energy is released first where the teleportal happens that remove dust and air all around just before the teleportation happens. while solid things wont really move. (Terminator da movie esk)

I had assumed this as well, and that the loud "crack" that accompanies teleportation was that of displaced air, but that some solid objects (say, the size of a mountain) would be too big to be displaced and so would interfere with the teleportation.

 jifel wrote:
Of course if you get lucky and only partially teleporters into something you might survive. Now you will lose whatever body part is lodged in there of course, but it's possible it's just and arm or leg.

The 1st Captain of the Imperial Fists (one before Lysander) is said to have had one of those, where he was stuck in a rock and lived long enough to name Lysander his successor.

 Ashiraya wrote:
If you teleport into something, you basically meld with it.

Every other atom is a you-atom, and every other atom is belonging to the rock you just teleported into. It's like two books being joined together, page by page.

The death, while instant, is also rather terrifying.

It isn't instant. You can survive it.

 Wyzilla wrote:

 Ashiraya wrote:
If you teleport into something, you basically meld with it.

Every other atom is a you-atom, and every other atom is belonging to the rock you just teleported into. It's like two books being joined together, page by page.

The death, while instant, is also rather terrifying.

It isn't instant. You can survive it.

assuming your head didnt teleport into something

Actually for teleportation to work the spacetime of the target locaton would be "swapped" with the source location.. so you wouldn't " fuse" atoms, just get embedded.. or to put it another way a and b would swap.. the main issue with teleportation is being the right way up and the right distance off the floor.. if it is random I mean

It depends on how the teleporter works, and being a fictional tech, we can take some liberties.

So if the teleporter works by reducing the transported matter a singularity for a nanosecond and expanding outward from that point (although now that point is at a different space time) then it would just push things aside (that could be pushed like air and water and stuff), this would present some problems if you were to pop back up in a very confined space, but as long as there was room you would pop back out without merging into the environment.

If it were to just take the matter from once point in space time and then make it be somewhere else, then you have to determine if it displaces the existing matter, or possibly even converts the energy of that matter to reform in to the transported material.

So if you break it down, everything in the universe is at its base, energy. If you were able to convert matter in once place to pure energy, and matter in another place to energy then thru magic have the energy reform into different matter than it was originally, that would also solve the problem.

As for swapping places, that seems to me like there would also need to be teleportation device on the other end, otherwise what is sending the other matter back the other way?

Wasn't there some SM chapter that had its teleport beacon go wrong and basically 'port the entire first company into a mountainside? I don't think that went too well for them.

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Wasn't there some SM chapter that had its teleport beacon go wrong and basically 'port the entire first company into a mountainside? I don't think that went too well for them.

That would end poorly for any of the cases I can think of. If you displace the dirt or rock that was there, you are still surrounded by tons of more dirt and rock, if you expand outward from a singularity, same issue,

 Catfish wrote:
Wasn't there some SM chapter that had its teleport beacon go wrong and basically 'port the entire first company into a mountainside? I don't think that went too well for them.

That be imperial fist and the whole back story for lysander

We are amusing this teleporato system to be working like a traditional sci fi (star trek) type transporter that deconstructs you and rebuilds you kinda thing.

I have a feeling that it is in fact more like a worm hole effect considering it is travel through the warp (effectively another dimension) kinda the even horizon style of teleporting

Though i guess this kinda contradicts with the whole imperial fist captain guy getting stuck inside a rock unless some other explanation can be reached.

Didnt some of the old fluff state when going through teleport, theres an icey cold, one can feel the warp around you and that its in general a terrible feeling?
Thats not likely if you are a simply a bunch of atoms floating about.
I'd suggest one is teleported whole and consious.

well I doubt the writers all are on the same page with how the teleporters work in 40k. So maybe some of them do the star trek thing, some do something else, and then some just hand wave.

to the OP, it appears that in some cases, yes, you can end up with stuff-inside-you/you-inside-stuff thru teleportation. The same thing can happen if you drink too much......

I have a feeling that it is in fact more like a worm hole effect considering it is travel through the warp (effectively another dimension) kinda the even horizon style of teleporting

Though i guess this kinda contradicts with the whole imperial fist captain guy getting stuck inside a rock unless some other explanation can be reached.

The exit-point at the end of the Warp Tunnel decided to have a chuckle with that guy and dumped him inside a rock. Happens all the time.

Imperial Teleporters were, at one point, stated to operate in a similar manner to Necron Gauss weapons (this is why they are called Gauss, apparently - they were found to be similar to the "Gauss Teleporter").

This implies atomic deconstruction, ST style.

However, the fluff about teleporters being warp-based is about the same age.

 Wyzilla wrote:

 Ashiraya wrote:
If you teleport into something, you basically meld with it.

Every other atom is a you-atom, and every other atom is belonging to the rock you just teleported into. It's like two books being joined together, page by page.

The death, while instant, is also rather terrifying.

It isn't instant. You can survive it.

Only if enough of you didn't teleport into the rock.

 Ashiraya wrote:

 Wyzilla wrote:

 Ashiraya wrote:
If you teleport into something, you basically meld with it.

Every other atom is a you-atom, and every other atom is belonging to the rock you just teleported into. It's like two books being joined together, page by page.

The death, while instant, is also rather terrifying.

It isn't instant. You can survive it.

Only if enough of you didn't teleport into the rock.

Pretty sure at the end of Know no Fear one of the UM's that teleported to the orbital platform was fuzed with the deck. He was quite alive and had to be put out of his misery if I remember correctly. There's a reason why Space Wolves dont trust it.

 Ashiraya wrote:

 Wyzilla wrote:

 Ashiraya wrote:
If you teleport into something, you basically meld with it.

Every other atom is a you-atom, and every other atom is belonging to the rock you just teleported into. It's like two books being joined together, page by page.

The death, while instant, is also rather terrifying.

It isn't instant. You can survive it.

Only if enough of you didn't teleport into the rock.

Pray that not enough does.

 TheCustomLime wrote:
That doesn't make sense. Wouldn't that mean even if you teleport in atmosphere you'd suddenly turn into 50% atmospheric gases? That would not be good even for the Emperor's finest.

With most cases in the novels, a teleport is associated with a bright light and the bang of air displacement. We can only presume that the teleport pushes air aside but is unable to push solid objects out of the way.

I suggest there might be a few different teleport technologies in the grim darkness of the future?

SpyderG6 wrote:

 Ashiraya wrote:

 Wyzilla wrote:

 Ashiraya wrote:
If you teleport into something, you basically meld with it.

Every other atom is a you-atom, and every other atom is belonging to the rock you just teleported into. It's like two books being joined together, page by page.

The death, while instant, is also rather terrifying.

It isn't instant. You can survive it.

Only if enough of you didn't teleport into the rock.

Pretty sure at the end of Know no Fear one of the UM's that teleported to the orbital platform was fuzed with the deck. He was quite alive and had to be put out of his misery if I remember correctly. There's a reason why Space Wolves dont trust it.

Yeah, I was gonna post just this. He's fused up to his waist I think with the deck and Guilliman has to kill him. But if something vital gets fused I imagine you'd die pretty instantly, whereas if it's just say your arm you'd be able to cut it off and survive.

nareik wrote:
I suggest there might be a few different teleport technologies in the grim darkness of the future?

Sure, imperial teleporters are very different from necrons' null-teleporters. Imperial use warp, necrons somehow fold the space.

nareik wrote:
I suggest there might be a few different teleport technologies in the grim darkness of the future?

HERESY!

Also, because it is more in line with what is available to most races, it is a warp or extra dimensional travel. Even Necrons use pocket dimensions (not the warp, please don eat me!) for teleporting in death marks and the like. The web way seems to be a stabilized form of a worm hole, and everything else in the universe is either powered by or connected to the warp in some way. that's where my money is at.