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Hey all,
So there are rumours that the chaos God Slaanesh has been killed off in WFB... What does this mean for 40K?

Probably nothing since gw likes to say they are separate.

Nah there's a prophecy and lore the Eldar have found a way to kill him/her/it. I got a feeling it won't be long now until they implement this and scrub Slaanesh out of 40k. Oh they'll let people use the units as part of chaos ect ect. but the followers will desperately search for him and they won't make any more stuff. Then slowly but surely phase support out completely as the years pass by.

 Gamgee wrote:
Nah there's a prophecy and lore the Eldar have found a way to kill him/her/it. I got a feeling it won't be long now until they implement this and scrub Slaanesh out of 40k. Oh they'll let people use the units as part of chaos ect ect. but the followers will desperately search for him and they won't make any more stuff. Then slowly but surely phase support out completely as the years pass by.

Its great because I took a two year break from the hobby, and recently came back to play Chaos...
And in the two year absence, GW are still ruining everything :/

 Gamgee wrote:
Nah there's a prophecy and lore the Eldar have found a way to kill him/her/it. I got a feeling it won't be long now until they implement this and scrub Slaanesh out of 40k. Oh they'll let people use the units as part of chaos ect ect. but the followers will desperately search for him and they won't make any more stuff. Then slowly but surely phase support out completely as the years pass by.

So basically the same thing as what happened in AoS? Lord Tyrion is the one who is responsible for AoS Slaanesh being gone. I suppose his 40K counterpart (Yriel?) could do the same thing.

...if the timeline ever advanced.

Who would take Slaanesh's place among the Chaos gods, though? There is no Great Horned Rat in 40k.

Slaanesh is getting replaced by the Emperor, who performs a face-heel turn.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
Who would take Slaanesh's place among the Chaos gods, though? There is no Great Horned Rat in 40k.

MalalMalice?

Since Slaanesh is quite NSFW, and must sell quite badly in the USA, it's something I expected to have happened long ago.

But, IF it happened in 40k, that would make the Eldar soulstones worthless, and the spirits could be freed. Harlequins would have little reason to exist, and DE wouldn't have to fear getting eaten upon death. (Lots of this may be wrong, but you get the idea).
It'd be a bid event, fluff-wise, and would invalidate a lot of armies.

I will point out that Slaanesh in AoS is not dead, just missing (possibly captured by Tyrion) and his followers are still around. And I seriously doubt they'll do something so drastic to 40K unless sales plummet and they feel they decide to reboot it. They have good (or at least much better) thing going on with 40K.

 Skinnereal wrote:
Since Slaanesh is quite NSFW, and must sell quite badly in the USA, it's something I expected to have happened long ago.

But, IF it happened in 40k, that would make the Eldar soulstones worthless, and the spirits could be freed. Harlequins would have little reason to exist, and DE wouldn't have to fear getting eaten upon death. (Lots of this may be wrong, but you get the idea).
It'd be a bid event, fluff-wise, and would invalidate a lot of armies.

Conceivably, DE could be fluffed as being too stuck in their ways/too far gone/etc to change their ways even if Slaanesh goes. Perhaps Slaanesh gets sucked into a further alternate dimension, leaving a black-hole type effect in the warp which still manages to drain the Eldar race due to Slaanesh being such an integral part of their psyche.


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nudibranch wrote:
I will point out that Slaanesh in AoS is not dead, just missing (possibly captured by Tyrion) and his followers are still around. And I seriously doubt they'll do something so drastic to 40K unless sales plummet and they feel they decide to reboot it. They have good (or at least much better) thing going on with 40K.

He's probably on a booty call.

There are rumors and prophecies that the Harlequins are planning to destroy Slannesh, as well as Ynnead arising to defeat Slannesh and save the Eldar race.

Thing is, both of those would require most of the Eldar to be dead/in their Infinity Circuits as part of their version of Ragnarok. The other thing is that GW will not advance the plot past the 13th Black Crusade, so these conditions will not be met.

Slaanesh is not dead, he/she/it ate too much souls and was so bloated he/she/it could not do a thing when someone came and captured he/she/it.

lustigjh wrote:

 Skinnereal wrote:
Since Slaanesh is quite NSFW, and must sell quite badly in the USA, it's something I expected to have happened long ago.

But, IF it happened in 40k, that would make the Eldar soulstones worthless, and the spirits could be freed. Harlequins would have little reason to exist, and DE wouldn't have to fear getting eaten upon death. (Lots of this may be wrong, but you get the idea).
It'd be a bid event, fluff-wise, and would invalidate a lot of armies.

Conceivably, DE could be fluffed as being too stuck in their ways/too far gone/etc to change their ways even if Slaanesh goes. Perhaps Slaanesh gets sucked into a further alternate dimension, leaving a black-hole type effect in the warp which still manages to drain the Eldar race due to Slaanesh being such an integral part of their psyche.

That wouldn't even need any fluff changes, the Dark Eldar are Dark Eldar because they didn't give up their hedonistic torture porn ways.

DaPino wrote:
Slaanesh is not dead, he/she/it ate too much souls and was so bloated he/she/it could not do a thing when someone came and captured he/she/it.

Its stuck in the door way..

I have a feeling if ANYTHING Slannesh will get replaced by some other eldar thing which is equally dangerous so they dont have to write out soul stones and DE and Quins.

Just with less tits and more TM ability

In the Harlequins Codex they are planning a final dance where they are plotting in kill Slaanesh.

The mysterious eldar God Cegorach is somehow involved as well as some of the craft worlds and possibly the DE.

Basically a lot of people want Slaanesh dead and a ton of killer clowns and space elves are coming for him soon.

Be scared Chaos... Very scared. But only Slaneesh since Eldar don't really seem to care about the other three gods.

DorianGray wrote:
In the Harlequins Codex they are planning a final dance where they are plotting in kill Slaanesh.

The mysterious eldar God Cegorach is somehow involved as well as some of the craft worlds and possibly the DE.

Basically a lot of people want Slaanesh dead and a ton of killer clowns and space elves are coming for him soon.

Be scared Chaos... Very scared. But only Slaneesh since Eldar don't really seem to care about the other three gods.

The Eldar are very concerned about Chaos as a whole, not just Slaanesh, because the whole "abolish reality and merge realspace with the warp" would directly affect them.

Also, keep in mind that the Eldar have been doomed to Slaanesh for 10,000 years. Every Eldar soul, barring Harlequins, goes straight to Slaanesh upon death if they don't have a soulstone. Slaanesh is also just as powerful as any other Chaos god; no mortal can defeat Chaos, only gods can.

 TheNewBlood wrote:

DorianGray wrote:
In the Harlequins Codex they are planning a final dance where they are plotting in kill Slaanesh.

The mysterious eldar God Cegorach is somehow involved as well as some of the craft worlds and possibly the DE.

Basically a lot of people want Slaanesh dead and a ton of killer clowns and space elves are coming for him soon.

Be scared Chaos... Very scared. But only Slaneesh since Eldar don't really seem to care about the other three gods.

The Eldar are very concerned about Chaos as a whole, not just Slaanesh, because the whole "abolish reality and merge realspace with the warp" would directly affect them.

Also, keep in mind that the Eldar have been doomed to Slaanesh for 10,000 years. Every Eldar soul, barring Harlequins, goes straight to Slaanesh upon death if they don't have a soulstone. Slaanesh is also just as powerful as any other Chaos god; no mortal can defeat Chaos, only gods can.

The craftworld Eldar are building their own god in the infinity circuit and the Harlequins have Cegorach that was never consumed by Slaanesh.

And in the old fluff, Slaanesh was explicitley stated to be the youngest and least powerful of the chaos gods.

If mortals can create a god (admittedly through an incredibly vast effort), I can see them destroying it.

 Skinnereal wrote:
Since Slaanesh is quite NSFW, and must sell quite badly in the USA, it's something I expected to have happened long ago.

Lolwut?

This is 'Murca, son. We likes our boobs here, and things with boobs. In 'Murca, putting boobs on something makes it 10 times betterer.

Six boobs makes it sixty times betterer!

This is the country that gave us the joke about why a woman's waist is called a waste.

DorianGray wrote:

The craftworld Eldar are building their own god in the infinity circuit and the Harlequins have Cegorach that was never consumed by Slaanesh.

Polonius wrote:And in the old fluff, Slaanesh was explicitley stated to be the youngest and least powerful of the chaos gods.

If mortals can create a god (admittedly through an incredibly vast effort), I can see them destroying it.

In the latest editions of the lore, all four Chaos gods are equally powerful, and are constantly fighting each other to become the most powerful/keep one god from coming before all others. If anything, Slaanesh was so powerful at birth that it took the three other Chaos gods to bring back an equal playing field.

Cegorach hid behind Khaine to avoid being consumed. He might have strengthened since then due to the Harlequins, but I would not call him Slaanesh's equal. Ynnead has yet to be born from the Rhana Dandra, so no one knows what kind of power he might have. Either way, Slaanesh will not be defeated by one god alone.

To kill a god, you would need the perfect plan/weapon/being, and we all know down what road perfection lies...

Im 42, not 12. I like a little more mature aspects in my leisure time.

Its becoming more and more clear that GW and I have different views of the direction we want our game to go.

 Psienesis wrote:

 Skinnereal wrote:
Since Slaanesh is quite NSFW, and must sell quite badly in the USA, it's something I expected to have happened long ago.

Lolwut?

This is 'Murca, son. We likes our boobs here, and things with boobs. In 'Murca, putting boobs on something makes it 10 times betterer.

Remember, these are children's toys.

We like our boobs, but if there's ANY chance of a child under 21 seeing a nipple it is NOT okay.

Especially when it's as ugly as the current Slaanesh models that GW makes. Nobody, no matter what age you are, should have to see those models.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 Gamgee wrote:
Nah there's a prophecy and lore the Eldar have found a way to kill him/her/it. I got a feeling it won't be long now until they implement this and scrub Slaanesh out of 40k. Oh they'll let people use the units as part of chaos ect ect. but the followers will desperately search for him and they won't make any more stuff. Then slowly but surely phase support out completely as the years pass by.

So basically the same thing as what happened in AoS? Lord Tyrion is the one who is responsible for AoS Slaanesh being gone. I suppose his 40K counterpart (Yriel?) could do the same thing.

...if the timeline ever advanced.

Who would take Slaanesh's place among the Chaos gods, though? There is no Great Horned Rat in 40k.

The Eldar way requires all the Eldar to have died for Ynead to become strong enough to fight Slaanesh.

 morganfreeman wrote:

 Psienesis wrote:

 Skinnereal wrote:
Since Slaanesh is quite NSFW, and must sell quite badly in the USA, it's something I expected to have happened long ago.

Lolwut?

This is 'Murca, son. We likes our boobs here, and things with boobs. In 'Murca, putting boobs on something makes it 10 times betterer.

Remember, these are children's toys.

We like our boobs, but if there's ANY chance of a child under 21 seeing a nipple it is NOT okay.

Young adult, rather than children - no matter how childish they make the models and the fluff, sharp knives and under-twelves don't mix.

I simply refuse to call anyone over the age of twelve a 'child'. Childish, maybe, but even if saying you're a child until 21 makes me feel young (six years an adult instead of eleven...), it's frankly silly.

 Furyou Miko wrote:

 morganfreeman wrote:

 Psienesis wrote:

 Skinnereal wrote:
Since Slaanesh is quite NSFW, and must sell quite badly in the USA, it's something I expected to have happened long ago.

Lolwut?

This is 'Murca, son. We likes our boobs here, and things with boobs. In 'Murca, putting boobs on something makes it 10 times betterer.

Remember, these are children's toys.

We like our boobs, but if there's ANY chance of a child under 21 seeing a nipple it is NOT okay.

Young adult, rather than children - no matter how childish they make the models and the fluff, sharp knives and under-twelves don't mix.

I simply refuse to call anyone over the age of twelve a 'child'. Childish, maybe, but even if saying you're a child until 21 makes me feel young (six years an adult instead of eleven...), it's frankly silly.

Biologically it's correct. Even an eighteen year-old is by no means an adult. Sure there may be the occasional sane/semi responsible youth, but the brain has not finished growing.

Also in regards to 40K, nothing would please me more than GW telling the children to sod off and plunging full into grimdark slaughter will all brakes removed. Let's have some REAL horror in 40K.

Furyou Miko wrote:

I simply refuse to call anyone over the age of twelve a 'child'. Childish, maybe, but even if saying you're a child until 21 makes me feel young (six years an adult instead of eleven...), it's frankly silly.

No is isn't. Teenagers, though they like to think of themselves as "not children", are nowhere near emotionally mature.

Wyzilla wrote:
Also in regards to 40K, nothing would please me more than GW telling the children to sod off and plunging full into grimdark slaughter will all brakes removed. Let's have some REAL horror in 40K.

Impossible, because that's an oxymoron.

If you asked your archetypical fourteen-year-old, someone incapable of understanding, much less writing, a mature, serious story, you'd most likely get:

- Violence with little point
- Pointless swearing
- Pointless nudty or other sexual content
- "Religious" imagery with no relation to actual relation
- Allegedly shocking character deaths
- Some poor attempt at suggesting humanity is bad
- Ridiculous emphasis on how the heroes either smoke, drink and/or do drugs.

Perhaps the most mature element of 4oK writing is giving villains actual personnalities, rather than just "kills his/her minions for failure, and is probably a rapist".

Anything "grimdark" is thus inherantly childish - it might be entirely childish,but many of the elements are what interests people who aren't mature, but want people to think they are.

 Gamgee wrote:
Nah there's a prophecy and lore the Eldar have found a way to kill him/her/it. I got a feeling it won't be long now until they implement this and scrub Slaanesh out of 40k. Oh they'll let people use the units as part of chaos ect ect. but the followers will desperately search for him and they won't make any more stuff. Then slowly but surely phase support out completely as the years pass by.

why do gw want to ruin WARHAMMER first aos now people are saying bye bye slaanesh why why gw

Son, you can kill people all you want, spread disease as you please, and even think just a little bit, but god forbid if a nipple appears anywhere. Can't be having that!