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 Farseer Uruvion wrote:

 Wyzilla wrote:

 Farseer Uruvion wrote:

As an Eldar player, I'm pleased that Slaanesh is going to be removed.

So you're TFG who wants to see the armies of numerous people squatted with the hundreds of dollars they've invested in them wasted because "muh faction stronk"?

Nevermind that Slaanesh is not being fething removed people.

Calm down. No need to get so agaitated. All I'm saying is that it if it does come to pass, it'll be beneficial to the 'lore' of my army.
GW will most likely allow Slaanesh models, but either as remnants or be used to represent this new god. I was only referring to if Slannesh itself/herself/himself gets captured/killed.

The problem is that you personally put yourself into liking that "Slaanesh would be removed". Yes, you claim it's because you're an Eldar player. But you personally state that you're happy they're disappearing. Then hiding behind the "reason". I'm a fan of Slaanesh; not because of the sexual aspects, but because of the excess and martial skill. How would you feel if I said "I hope the Eldar army finally gets eaten by Slaanesh and completely wiped out. But it's okay cuz I play Slaanesh, so I can desire the loss of somebody else's hard work and army." Looks crappy, right?

 urbanknight4 wrote:

 aka_mythos wrote:
I think Slaanesh could go the direction of self mutilation and body disfigurement and modification... To be clear This wouldn't be mutations but just more like self flaying, hooks and stretched flesh, the grafting on of the things that don't belong. What I mean is that it doesn't have to do explicitly be a gratification thing. Excess without explicit sexual connotations.

Thats a good idea. Slaanesh is a kind of vague god, he is the lord of excess and pleasure, but then again, there are some things he provides that have nothing to do with pleasure. Just as people come to him for entertainment and perfection, they could come to fulfill their idea of beauty or whatever, hence the uh... unnatural modifications.

Slaanesh isn't vague, he just covers a lot of ground that doesn't always translate well into miniature wargaming rules.

Slaanesh is the god of the fun deadly signs: Pride, Lust, Greed, gluttony. Excess and decadence, stimulation and escapism. At his/her most subtle, Slaanesh is the god of questing for perfection and sensory pleasure. At his/her most base, the god of sex, drugs, and rock n roll. At the worst, Slaanesh worship is about pleasure and delight at the expense of all else, including the lives of others.

Think of it this way: causing deaths through decay or neglect is the realm of nurgle, plotting elaborate revenge is the realm of Tzeentch, a bloody massacre is the relam of Khorne. Slaanesh's realm is that of the serial killer, that kills for pleasure.

 timetowaste85 wrote:

 Farseer Uruvion wrote:

 Wyzilla wrote:

 Farseer Uruvion wrote:

As an Eldar player, I'm pleased that Slaanesh is going to be removed.

So you're TFG who wants to see the armies of numerous people squatted with the hundreds of dollars they've invested in them wasted because "muh faction stronk"?

Nevermind that Slaanesh is not being fething removed people.

Calm down. No need to get so agaitated. All I'm saying is that it if it does come to pass, it'll be beneficial to the 'lore' of my army.
GW will most likely allow Slaanesh models, but either as remnants or be used to represent this new god. I was only referring to if Slannesh itself/herself/himself gets captured/killed.

The problem is that you personally put yourself into liking that "Slaanesh would be removed". Yes, you claim it's because you're an Eldar player. But you personally state that you're happy they're disappearing. Then hiding behind the "reason". I'm a fan of Slaanesh; not because of the sexual aspects, but because of the excess and martial skill. How would you feel if I said "I hope the Eldar army finally gets eaten by Slaanesh and completely wiped out. But it's okay cuz I play Slaanesh, so I can desire the loss of somebody else's hard work and army." Looks crappy, right?

You need to calm down and slow your roll. Just because Slaanesh is killed doesn't mean his units get the axe. He clearly stated that another God could replace him, and if anything, they could be remnants. I'd be cool with that since it's just a change in lore, not the physical change in gaming you're suggesting.

As an Eldar my people have waited for this moment for 100,001 years. The Eldar can finally be free with the death of she who thirsts.

Finally. Cegorach's revenge finally accomplished. Thank you forever.

Slaanesh players can go eat gak and die. That's for consuming trillions of Eldar and being a blight on the entire Eldar race for a hundred thousand years.

DorianGray wrote:
As an Eldar player my people have waited for this moment for 100,001 years. The Eldar can finally be free with the death of she who thirsts.

Finally. Cegorach's revenge finally accomplished. Thank you forever.

Slaanesh players can go eat gak and die. That's for consuming trillions of Eldar and being a blight on the entire Eldar race for a hundred thousand years.

Its k

In there hubris they will celebrate the eldar way and give birth to Mega Slannesh.

DorianGray wrote:
As an Eldar my people have waited for this moment for 100,001 years. The Eldar can finally be free with the death of she who thirsts.

Finally. Cegorach's revenge finally accomplished. Thank you forever.

Slaanesh players can go eat gak and die. That's for consuming trillions of Eldar and being a blight on the entire Eldar race for a hundred thousand years.

... speaking of slowing one's roll, show the Inquisition where on the servitor the players of a faction written before the game was published the Elf-players D-cannoned you...

 urbanknight4 wrote:

 timetowaste85 wrote:

 Farseer Uruvion wrote:

 Wyzilla wrote:

 Farseer Uruvion wrote:

As an Eldar player, I'm pleased that Slaanesh is going to be removed.

So you're TFG who wants to see the armies of numerous people squatted with the hundreds of dollars they've invested in them wasted because "muh faction stronk"?

Nevermind that Slaanesh is not being fething removed people.

Calm down. No need to get so agaitated. All I'm saying is that it if it does come to pass, it'll be beneficial to the 'lore' of my army.
GW will most likely allow Slaanesh models, but either as remnants or be used to represent this new god. I was only referring to if Slannesh itself/herself/himself gets captured/killed.

The problem is that you personally put yourself into liking that "Slaanesh would be removed". Yes, you claim it's because you're an Eldar player. But you personally state that you're happy they're disappearing. Then hiding behind the "reason". I'm a fan of Slaanesh; not because of the sexual aspects, but because of the excess and martial skill. How would you feel if I said "I hope the Eldar army finally gets eaten by Slaanesh and completely wiped out. But it's okay cuz I play Slaanesh, so I can desire the loss of somebody else's hard work and army." Looks crappy, right?

You need to calm down and slow your roll. Just because Slaanesh is killed doesn't mean his units get the axe. He clearly stated that another God could replace him, and if anything, they could be remnants. I'd be cool with that since it's just a change in lore, not the physical change in gaming you're suggesting.

Thank you for understanding.


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DorianGray wrote:
As an Eldar my people have waited for this moment for 100,001 years. The Eldar can finally be free with the death of she who thirsts.

Finally. Cegorach's revenge finally accomplished. Thank you forever.

Slaanesh players can go eat gak and die. That's for consuming trillions of Eldar and being a blight on the entire Eldar race for a hundred thousand years.

This is what I was going on about. Lore-wise, its great for my army.

 Polonius wrote:

 urbanknight4 wrote:

 aka_mythos wrote:
I think Slaanesh could go the direction of self mutilation and body disfigurement and modification... To be clear This wouldn't be mutations but just more like self flaying, hooks and stretched flesh, the grafting on of the things that don't belong. What I mean is that it doesn't have to do explicitly be a gratification thing. Excess without explicit sexual connotations.

Thats a good idea. Slaanesh is a kind of vague god, he is the lord of excess and pleasure, but then again, there are some things he provides that have nothing to do with pleasure. Just as people come to him for entertainment and perfection, they could come to fulfill their idea of beauty or whatever, hence the uh... unnatural modifications.

Slaanesh isn't vague, he just covers a lot of ground that doesn't always translate well into miniature wargaming rules.

Slaanesh is the god of the fun deadly signs: Pride, Lust, Greed, gluttony. Excess and decadence, stimulation and escapism. At his/her most subtle, Slaanesh is the god of questing for perfection and sensory pleasure. At his/her most base, the god of sex, drugs, and rock n roll. At the worst, Slaanesh worship is about pleasure and delight at the expense of all else...

I think when he says vague I think he means that "excess... Pleasure... Pride, Lust, Greed, and Gluttony" don't translate to the tabletop easily. To sensibly fit in, they need to be more than the '80s stereotype of "sex, drugs, and rock and roll"

This is a bit of an alternative take but still plays into the pride, quest for perfection, and excess of self mutilation to achieve that... Slaanesh is born from the Eldar emotions made manifest from their excess and empowered by the death an consumption of the Eldar gods. What if Slaanesh worshippers were reimagined as alien eating marines who are willing to graft alien organs and body parts to move beyond their capabilities and mundane senses.

Hey, I'm totally down with what this guy says ^^

Grafting Xeno parts is not only heresy, it can actually be an improvement. I mean, you could get flesh technodendrites (or whatever those are called), amplified senses, extra arms, etc.

Slaanesh is dead soon. Everyone dance now. *music plays*

boogie.

All Eldar celebrate. Orgy time. Entire craftworld PARTY.

 aka_mythos wrote:

I think when he says vague I think he means that "excess... Pleasure... Pride, Lust, Greed, and Gluttony" don't translate to the tabletop easily. To sensibly fit in, they need to be more than the '80s stereotype of "sex, drugs, and rock and roll"

This is what I was bringing up earlier. It's not difficult to convey what Slaanesh is about through a lot of mediums, but the options are really freaking limited once you choose 28mm heroic scale models (which are multi pose and multi part) as the medium.

You can get a strong vibe for nearly every faction just by looking at them, even if you know nothing about the game. Imperial guard are WW1/2 soldiers, Tau are high-tech robo-suits, Nurgle is about decay and disease, Orks are... Well, they're orcs. It's rreeaaaallllllyyy hard to nail Slaanesh down in such a manner, especially without falling into "the same old pitfalls".

DorianGray wrote:
Slaanesh is dead soon. Everyone dance now. *music plays*

boogie.

All Eldar celebrate. Orgy time. Entire craftworld PARTY.

And in comes Slaanesh 2: This time it's pleasurable.

 Selym wrote:

DorianGray wrote:
Slaanesh is dead soon. Everyone dance now. *music plays*

boogie.

All Eldar celebrate. Orgy time. Entire craftworld PARTY.

And in comes Slaanesh 2: This time it's pleasurable.

At least it'll be the best orgy ever. We have spirit stones anyway if Slannesh 2 comes.

Slaanesh is not kid friendly. Not to surprising. Remember in the USA ultra-viloence is nearly expected where a nipple slip can ruin careers and generate class action lawsuits.

This is why I loved reading Dorian Grey when I was little

 SickSix wrote:
Slaanesh is not kid friendly. Not to surprising. Remember in the USA ultra-viloence is nearly expected where a nipple slip can ruin careers and generate class action lawsuits.

And here in the EU, both are acceptable, as long as you slap an age rating on it.

 Selym wrote:

 SickSix wrote:
Slaanesh is not kid friendly. Not to surprising. Remember in the USA ultra-viloence is nearly expected where a nipple slip can ruin careers and generate class action lawsuits.

And here in the EU, both are acceptable, as long as you slap an age rating on it.

Time to move to France/England, I say.

 urbanknight4 wrote:

 Selym wrote:

 SickSix wrote:
Slaanesh is not kid friendly. Not to surprising. Remember in the USA ultra-viloence is nearly expected where a nipple slip can ruin careers and generate class action lawsuits.

And here in the EU, both are acceptable, as long as you slap an age rating on it.

Time to move to France/England, I say.

England is more like the US in this regard I think, of those two if you want sexual liberty it sounds like you should pick France. They make children's cartoons full of fetishes and rated Fifty Shades of Grey suitable for 12 and up (If I'm not mistaken, only heard about it on John Oliver).
You know, saying that out loud has makes it sound like... Slaanesh isn't dead, he/she/they/it is ruling France!

 CrashGordon94 wrote:

 urbanknight4 wrote:

 Selym wrote:

 SickSix wrote:
Slaanesh is not kid friendly. Not to surprising. Remember in the USA ultra-viloence is nearly expected where a nipple slip can ruin careers and generate class action lawsuits.

And here in the EU, both are acceptable, as long as you slap an age rating on it.

Time to move to France/England, I say.

England is more like the US in this regard I think, of those two if you want sexual liberty it sounds like you should pick France. They make children's cartoons full of fetishes and rated Fifty Shades of Grey suitable for 12 and up (If I'm not mistaken, only heard about it on John Oliver).
You know, saying that out loud has makes it sound like... Slaanesh isn't dead, he/she/they/it is ruling France!

They WHAT.

THEY WHAT.

I need some evidence of this heresy. For science.

Pretty sure Slaanesh rules Brazil with vacation homes in Thailand and Japan...

 urbanknight4 wrote:

 CrashGordon94 wrote:

 urbanknight4 wrote:

 Selym wrote:

 SickSix wrote:
Slaanesh is not kid friendly. Not to surprising. Remember in the USA ultra-viloence is nearly expected where a nipple slip can ruin careers and generate class action lawsuits.

And here in the EU, both are acceptable, as long as you slap an age rating on it.

Time to move to France/England, I say.

England is more like the US in this regard I think, of those two if you want sexual liberty it sounds like you should pick France. They make children's cartoons full of fetishes and rated Fifty Shades of Grey suitable for 12 and up (If I'm not mistaken, only heard about it on John Oliver).
You know, saying that out loud has makes it sound like... Slaanesh isn't dead, he/she/they/it is ruling France!

They WHAT.

THEY WHAT.

I need some evidence of this heresy. For science.

Solid enough evidence?
Maybe not the strongest, but it seems I wasn't mistaken.

GW isn't going to kill Slaanesh just to appeal to fundies in the USA. GW thinks the US doesn't exist, remember? Hence you aren't allowed to sell GW products in the US.

 urbanknight4 wrote:
This is why I loved reading Dorian Grey when I was little

Somebody say my name?

DorianGray wrote:
As an Eldar my people have waited for this moment for 100,001 years. The Eldar can finally be free with the death of she who thirsts.

Finally. Cegorach's revenge finally accomplished. Thank you forever.

Slaanesh players can go eat gak and die. That's for consuming trillions of Eldar and being a blight on the entire Eldar race for a hundred thousand years.

Wait, what? The Eldar Empire was around at the same time as the Human Empire (DAoT), so that means that Slaanesh can't have been around for more than, like 12,13k years, unless you're talking about how Slaanesh (just like the rest of the Gods) transcends times itself, and therefore has existed since the beginning of time.


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Personally, the changes that I'd like to see in the Slaanesh models are:
1.) more sexual models
2.) more outlandish models available (things like having a model that wears a human face for a mask and has had a human arm grafted onto it's shoulder that gives it a bonus attack because SPEHSS MEGIC!!! or having a human head grafted onto a shoulder which whispers into its ear and gives it +1 Ld, or something)
3.) Less sexual models. Basically, these models are more about taking sensation, and as such, they have extra ears on their bodies, along with extra noses, eyes, etc., and have even more colorful clothing. Or, they are more about drugs, and, as such, they have IV's going into their skin filled with some kind of drug, and syringes attached to their uniforms (for Cultists)
4.) models that are feasting on the flesh of the slain, something like zombie cultists, only minus the zombie aesthetic, also the rest of the Slaanesh worshipers eating in some way - maybe have a Daemonette with a two-pronged fork daintily eating an eyeball as she pirouettes across the battlefield.

If 40k gets rid of Slaanesh what happens to the DE?

 Gamgee wrote:
If 40k gets rid of Slaanesh what happens to the DE?

They continue raping and pillaging as they have been doing since before the Fall of the Eldar

 dusara217 wrote:


Personally, the changes that I'd like to see in the Slaanesh models are:
1.) more sexual models
2.) more outlandish models available (things like having a model that wears a human face for a mask and has had a human arm grafted onto it's shoulder that gives it a bonus attack because SPEHSS MEGIC!!! or having a human head grafted onto a shoulder which whispers into its ear and gives it +1 Ld, or something)
3.) Less sexual models. Basically, these models are more about taking sensation, and as such, they have extra ears on their bodies, along with extra noses, eyes, etc., and have even more colorful clothing. Or, they are more about drugs, and, as such, they have IV's going into their skin filled with some kind of drug, and syringes attached to their uniforms (for Cultists)
4.) models that are feasting on the flesh of the slain, something like zombie cultists, only minus the zombie aesthetic, also the rest of the Slaanesh worshipers eating in some way - maybe have a Daemonette with a two-pronged fork daintily eating an eyeball as she pirouettes across the battlefield.

I completely agree. A lot of people seem to get upset when someone says Slaanesh is supposed to be about sexualisation. While true that Slaanesh isn't all about this, it is also a major part. At the very least there should be the option for players to choose between sexual and less sexual models. Damons I want to see go more towards the H.R.Geiger type of sexuality.

Honestly though Slaanesh isn't the only one that gets the short end of the stick when it comes to their potential and what actually represents them. Khorne is meant to be the god of violence but also militarism and pride, yet we only ever see horned minotaurs. Tzeench is the god of change which could mean revolution, uprisings and conspiracy yet they only ever focus on the sorceror aspect.

 dusara217 wrote:

 Gamgee wrote:
If 40k gets rid of Slaanesh what happens to the DE?

They continue raping and pillaging as they have been doing since before the Fall of the Eldar

I ask this since I don't want the DE to get sigmarrified and toned down. I'm interested in starting a DE army soon after my Tau. It would be pretty demoralizing to see them get toned down and made kid friendly. That would make two of some of my most favorite factions being changed recently (Necron lore is bleh now but I still like how they look).

If anything the DE would get even more ...... uuuhh... dark? I mean, they could start using psychic powers without the threat of getting the attention of She Who Thirsts. Hell, even som of the craftworlders would become more like them, as there would be nothing holding them back.

DE and CWE would have little reason to stay separate any longer.
'Light' Eldar could indulge, and Dark Eldar would have less reason to carry on as they do.
Harlequins would be out of a job...

So, some of the DE models would probably become redundant, too.