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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/07 08:41:25
Subject: Vehicle Allies
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Sorry in advance if this has been covered but I couldn't find it anywhere.
Is there any allies you can take that are only vehicles? Either an army that has hq and troops that are vehicles or an army you can ally with different rules (like skittari due to no hq)?
Cheers, Mikey
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/07 08:48:41
Subject: Re:Vehicle Allies
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Worthiest of Warlock Engineers
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If you have Imperial Armour Book 2 then you can take the Imperial Guard Armoured Company as an ally.
The HQ unit is a Tank
The basic troops are Tank Squadrons
and all of these are Leman Russ Tanks.
Just be warned though, the prices are 5th edition so they may be a little pricey.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/07 08:53:17
Subject: Re:Vehicle Allies
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Tanks for that (Punny) I'd like to stay away from FW etc but if not possible there goes that idea :-P
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/07 08:54:59
Subject: Re:Vehicle Allies
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Worthiest of Warlock Engineers
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Well the vanilla IG book does let you take a Tank Commander with 1 to 2 escorting tanks and some tank squadrons in the HS slots.... But you will need to take some Infantry Platoons/Veteran Sections
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/07 09:36:30
Subject: Vehicle Allies
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Well poo, what about space wolves don't they have a hq dred?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/07 09:40:55
Subject: Vehicle Allies
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Death-Dealing Devastator
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Well you can ally a Land Raider Spearhead Formation (heck of a lot pricey!) or an Armoured Task Force, in which the only non-vehicle is a Techmarine. SM tanks are a bit crappier than IG though.
Why do you plan to bring an all-tanks army?
Campaign or some idea?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/07 09:46:42
Subject: Vehicle Allies
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Stalwart Tribune
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mathaius90 wrote:Well you can ally a Land Raider Spearhead Formation (heck of a lot pricey!) or an Armoured Task Force, in which the only non-vehicle is a Techmarine. SM tanks are a bit crappier than IG though.
Why do you plan to bring an all-tanks army?
Campaign or some idea?
Space marines Anti-Air Defense Force, Storm Wing and Suppression Force contains only vehicles too.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/07 09:46:51
Subject: Vehicle Allies
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Auspicious Daemonic Herald
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No army has vehicles as a troop choice outside of Forge World.
The best you can do if take a formation that happens to only consist of vehicles (such as The Steel Host)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/07 09:49:50
Subject: Vehicle Allies
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Aspirant Tech-Adept
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Imperial Knights? Automatically Appended Next Post: Also, I don't know the details, but isn't there an Ork Dred formation?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/07 09:53:02
Subject: Vehicle Allies
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Crushing Clawed Fiend
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LucidNinja wrote:Sorry in advance if this has been covered but I couldn't find it anywhere.
Is there any allies you can take that are only vehicles? Either an army that has hq and troops that are vehicles or an army you can ally with different rules (like skittari due to no hq)?
Cheers, Mikey
You can always just go unbound, abeit, some people don't like the idea of unbound.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/07 09:57:59
Subject: Vehicle Allies
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Aspirant Tech-Adept
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Harley Quinn wrote:LucidNinja wrote:Sorry in advance if this has been covered but I couldn't find it anywhere.
Is there any allies you can take that are only vehicles? Either an army that has hq and troops that are vehicles or an army you can ally with different rules (like skittari due to no hq)?
Cheers, Mikey
You can always just go unbound, abeit, some people don't like the idea of unbound.
This. And it sounds like you're trying to put together some sort of fluffy little detachment. Exactly what unbound is there for.
Are you trying to stay imperium, or do you not mind?
What are your thoughts on what you're trying to do?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/07 10:24:10
Subject: Re:Vehicle Allies
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Alright so my idea is to make an imperial knight army with just vehicles as allies, just an idea. Ideally would be knights and some flyers but tanks dreads mechs what ever haha.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/07 10:43:55
Subject: Vehicle Allies
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Aspirant Tech-Adept
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I see.
If you didn't want to go unbound, I'd maybe think about IG with the tank commander. Your troop selection could just be a vet squad in a chimera, then at least they'd be mechanised. FA hellound squadron and HS leman russ squadron.
You could also take Blood Angels and go full dreadnought? Automatically Appended Next Post: You could put fliers into either of those options.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/07 10:51:30
Subject: Vehicle Allies
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Tunneling Trygon
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Yeah, Blood Angels can do a Librarian Dreadnought HQ, a named Death Company Dreadnought as the Troop choice and Fast Attack has a couple options for Vehicles. Then you can load up on other Vehicles as per the Flesh Tearers Detachment allows.
I really don't understand why anyone would though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/07 10:55:08
Subject: Vehicle Allies
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Aspirant Tech-Adept
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BA also have elite and HS dreads.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/07 11:28:12
Subject: Vehicle Allies
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The Marine Standing Behind Marneus Calgar
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Ultramarines have Sgt. Chronos as a tank HQ, but you’d still need troops for an alied/CAD.
As was pointed out, there are plenty of all tank formations.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/07 15:08:06
Subject: Vehicle Allies
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Space marines Anti-Air Defense Force, Storm Wing and Suppression Force contains only vehicles too.
Sorry thought this was some FW mumbo jumbo... My noob bad.
With the storm wing formation does that allow only the stormraven and 2 stormtalons or is that just the minimum?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/07 15:51:53
Subject: Vehicle Allies
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Still think Armored Battlegroup from IAv1:2E is your best bet for high-AV over-saturation with your knights
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/07 23:50:09
Subject: Vehicle Allies
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Regular Dakkanaut
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What would the minimum points be for a battlegroup? Storm wing and anti air are both under 500 right? So could do a 3 knight plus vehicle ally for 1500.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/08 03:17:33
Subject: Vehicle Allies
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Xeno-Hating Inquisitorial Excruciator
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There is an ig formation of just tanks from the red waagh book needing a tank commander and up to three russ squads and a hydra squad with all units getting preferred enemy if within 12" of the command tank
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/08 15:18:34
Subject: Vehicle Allies
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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LucidNinja wrote:What would the minimum points be for a battlegroup? Storm wing and anti air are both under 500 right? So could do a 3 knight plus vehicle ally for 1500.
Minimum points for an ABG with exactly 0 upgrades (and still all AV14) is 300.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/08 17:27:44
Subject: Vehicle Allies
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Regular Dakkanaut
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For non-formation detachments Dark Angels have the Ravenwing Strike Force so you can take Sabreclaw and loads of Speeders/Darkshrouds. Knights have well, Knights.
There are also tons of formations these days that are only vehicles.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/08 23:25:32
Subject: Vehicle Allies
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Unit1126PLL wrote:LucidNinja wrote:What would the minimum points be for a battlegroup? Storm wing and anti air are both under 500 right? So could do a 3 knight plus vehicle ally for 1500.
Minimum points for an ABG with exactly 0 upgrades (and still all AV14) is 300.
Wow that's less than I thought it would be. Just don't think tanks and knights would look good together for some reason. Yeah I'm being gimmicky but why not haha.
ryuken87 wrote:For non-formation detachments Dark Angels have the Ravenwing Strike Force so you can take Sabreclaw and loads of Speeders/Darkshrouds. Knights have well, Knights.
There are also tons of formations these days that are only vehicles.
Didn't mention last time I played 40k formations didn't exist so yeah a bit of catching up to do haha.
As another question can you only take one ally?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/09 05:28:39
Subject: Vehicle Allies
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Ork-Hunting Inquisitorial Xenokiller
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LucidNinja wrote:What would the minimum points be for a battlegroup? Storm wing and anti air are both under 500 right? So could do a 3 knight plus vehicle ally for 1500.
A Storm Wing formation with a decent TAC loadout is about 430 points, 420 points at minimum.
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