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I was on page 2 of the faq when it went poof. I guess something wasn't ready yet. However as far as I got power of the machine spirit is pretty darn good again allowing you to snap fire blasts and templates etc.

Sinful Hero wrote:Of course Space Marines are first.

But they were not first. Or second, or third.

It's back up.

New link:
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1628732777447355&id=1575682476085719

Heldrakes murder Salamaders now. Guy who asked that is the real hero xD

 Frozocrone wrote:
Heldrakes murder Salamaders now. Guy who asked that is the real hero xD

+1

I also see they see they are cracking down on drop pod shenanigans. Thank god.

Salamanders having resistance to demonic flames as well as flames in reality made no sense to me. So kudos to GW for straightening that up. Methinks there's gonna be some serious butt-hurt from skimming through that lot.

Im confused by where they are going with the 'it depends on how the drop pod is modeled' stuff.

A single model may only be armed with a one Chapter Relic

well its not ideal but at least its in line with non Power Codexes.

 Gamgee wrote:

 Frozocrone wrote:
Heldrakes murder Salamaders now. Guy who asked that is the real hero xD

+1

I also see they see they are cracking down on drop pod shenanigans. Thank god.

Can you explain your reasoning? I.e. What shenanigans were resolved? LoS is based on the model and the doors count as part of the model - so seems like you can keep the doors up when you need dem walls, or drop them when you don't - or when you want to occupy a big footprint of ground. Will people be encouraged to grab the model and yank on the door to see if it's "really" glued on?

Maybe you bring a whole box of drop pods with doors glued in different configurations so you can grab the one that best fits the current battlefield.

I'm like... 47% kidding.

Apothecaries DO get to carry cool items! Glad that's been dealt with.

 Zach wrote:
Im confused by where they are going with the 'it depends on how the drop pod is modeled' stuff.

I think what they're trying to say is-if you've done it as like a scenic feature to your board perhaps?

Superfriends seem to have taken a beating with Chapter Tactics not working with BA/DA/SW/GK anymore.

 Zach wrote:
Im confused by where they are going with the 'it depends on how the drop pod is modeled' stuff.

Probably whether or not the doors are glued shut.

 AlmightyWalrus wrote:
Apothecaries DO get to carry cool items! Glad that's been dealt with.

I remember the last YMDC thread about this. Glad to see I was proven right

 BrookM wrote:

 Zach wrote:
Im confused by where they are going with the 'it depends on how the drop pod is modeled' stuff.

Probably whether or not the doors are glued shut.

Right, it just doesn't make sense and wont work with the high drop pod count armies out there.

Oh jesus drop pod doors why.

and since its part of the model, no more walking over them. you can now block off about 12" of space that enemies cant go through. .... hooray.

Someone explain to me this please. Getting back to 40K and don't understand this at all.

First there was a question about units in a drop pod on how they move. First they say the unit inside use the disembarkment rule then the next question they say since the unit was in a drop pod and it deep struck in, it can't move then. ???

What am I missing here?

 AlmightyWalrus wrote:
Superfriends seem to have taken a beating with Chapter Tactics not working with BA/DA/SW/GK anymore.

Yep, Librarians no longer give hit and run to Thunderwolves.

In exchange, they buffed drop pods. Just make a nice wall in front of their deployment zone, and watch the annoyance flow.

Davor wrote:
Someone explain to me this please. Getting back to 40K and don't understand this at all.

First there was a question about units in a drop pod on how they move. First they say the unit inside use the disembarkment rule then the next question they say since the unit was in a drop pod and it deep struck in, it can't move then. ???

What am I missing here?

They count as deep striking, but still get to make the disembark rule, since they must disembark. Allowance is given within the drop pods rules.

This means they count as moving, can't charge, etc.

Yea I don't want to live in a world where 9 drop pod lists can open their doors on top of objectives so that empty ObSec pods cant even be contested any more.

 Zach wrote:
Yea I don't want to live in a world where 9 drop pod lists can open their doors on top of objectives so that empty ObSec pods cant even be contested any more.

Well if this happens what about a Mawloc? Would that help at all?

No. S6 AP2 against AV12 with 3HP.

Davor wrote:

Sinful Hero wrote:Of course Space Marines are first.

But they were not first. Or second, or third.

First of the major codexes. I don't really consider SoB or Inq to be full-fledged codexes.

OMG... That some of these questions were even asked hurts my head.

On a good note... Librarius Conclave is finally put to bed.

Interesting... Multiple iterations of (Chapter Tactics) cancel each other out. Also, characters without (Chapter Tactics) that join a unit null (Chapter Tactics) for the whole unit.

Ooo... Characters joining a unit from a formation null the special rule(s) bestowed on that unit from the formation.

YAY! They addressed my question about Dorn's Arrow! And I was right all along. Dorn's Arrow DOES count as a Bolt weapon.

Oh dear god. That drop pod thingie was bad answer. Ability to block huge areas of board is just what drop pods needed!

The nerf to superfriends style lists is a good thing. Even as a SM drop pod user that door ruling doesn't feel right.

Another positive note is that Shrike can actually join units now. Woot.

So do I understand this right, when I disembark a unit from the Drop Pod, I can measure my disembark move from the tip of the open door?

I can't access Facebook from work, so the best part of my Wednesday is trying to guess what exactly everyone is so outraged about.

The wording of the Shrike question suggests that they still don't actually understand the problem.

The drop pod door ruling is pants on head territory. While I'm not a fan of treating them as invisible when closed (too many complications that way) treating them as part of the vehicle when open makes the pod either impossible to deploy or hugely effective at blocking off large swathes of the table if you're using any decent amount of terrain on the board.

Most of the rest of it looks pretty good, though. A few calls that go against the written rules but are headed in the right direction, and some nice clarifications of contentious issues (like the Chapter Master upgrade thing, and Dreadnoughts vs Stormravens...)






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 buddha wrote:

Another positive note is that Shrike can actually join units now. Woot.

No, he can't.

The FAQ just says that a JI unit he joins can infiltrate... which is true, since both he and the unit he joins would have to have the rule.




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 casvalremdeikun wrote:
So do I understand this right, when I disembark a unit from the Drop Pod, I can measure my disembark move from the tip of the open door?

Yes, that's where this ruling takes us.