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Ok so while paging through my Ork codex i decided to look at the Mek Gunz again. Now i didnt look all that close at these as i usually field them as Kannons, but upon looking i got real confused. So heres my opinions on the guns:
The Kannon is solid, hasn't changed much.
The Lobba is, well, the Lobba, not much different here.
Zzap guns, it has Gets Hot now. Ya, thanks, cuz that was necessary. Oh and it rolls to hit now, so trash.
Bubblechucka, to horribly unreliable to be of use.
Kustom Mega Kannon, not bad, Str 8 AP 2 is nothing to sneeze at.
Smasha Gun, more reliable at min Str 5. Useful against MCs i guess.
Traktor Kannon, Skyfire, nice.
So two of these suck, and the others are ok. So what are your opinions?
-Kannons and Lobbas are cheap, durable, and effective. Personally I love my lobbas and having a barrage weapon is at times very useful to snipe out particular characters or cowards hiding behing LoS. Kannons are a work horse for killing vehicles at a range on turn 1 before your tankbustas can get close enough to put in some work. Also quite good against MCs without 2+ armor.
-Zzap guns are actually fairly good against MCs but they are terrible vs vehicles. Still fairly cheap and gets hot isn't much of an issue with ammo grots and 3 pt wounds. Not competitive but if you really need ranged AP2 for killing infantry/MCs then its not the worst thing.
-Bubblechucka is trash with its only saving grace is the large blast.
-Traktor Kannon is ungodly at anti air but limited in other uses. Orks can generally bring lootas or tankbustas to spam snap fire at flyers while still being useful against ground targets.
-Smasha Gun is more expensive than a kannon but averages a similar strength shot and being AP1 (AP doesn't help if you roll low on Str and can't pierce the AV rating). Too unreliable for the price and against MCs I think the zzap gun might edge it out by being cheaper for similar results.
-Kustom Mega Kannon is probably the most effective AP2 weapon of the lot with stable Str 8. Its the same issue as a Plasma Cannon but at least its 3pt wounds eating the gets hot. Good all rounder and I think is totally viable for semi competitive lists.
The real hero of the Mek Gun is the 7th edition Artillery rules as the crew counts as T7 against shooting so those 3 point grots can tank wounds like a riptide. Get them some cover and roll the stealth in ruins for 3+ cover T7 grots.
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Vankraken wrote: -Kannons and Lobbas are cheap, durable, and effective. Personally I love my lobbas and having a barrage weapon is at times very useful to snipe out particular characters or cowards hiding behing LoS. Kannons are a work horse for killing vehicles at a range on turn 1 before your tankbustas can get close enough to put in some work. Also quite good against MCs without 2+ armor.
-Zzap guns are actually fairly good against MCs but they are terrible vs vehicles. Still fairly cheap and gets hot isn't much of an issue with ammo grots and 3 pt wounds. Not competitive but if you really need ranged AP2 for killing infantry/MCs then its not the worst thing.
-Bubblechucka is trash with its only saving grace is the large blast.
-Traktor Kannon is ungodly at anti air but limited in other uses. Orks can generally bring lootas or tankbustas to spam snap fire at flyers while still being useful against ground targets.
-Smasha Gun is more expensive than a kannon but averages a similar strength shot and being AP1 (AP doesn't help if you roll low on Str and can't pierce the AV rating). Too unreliable for the price and against MCs I think the zzap gun might edge it out by being cheaper for similar results.
-Kustom Mega Kannon is probably the most effective AP2 weapon of the lot with stable Str 8. Its the same issue as a Plasma Cannon but at least its 3pt wounds eating the gets hot. Good all rounder and I think is totally viable for semi competitive lists.
The real hero of the Mek Gun is the 7th edition Artillery rules as the crew counts as T7 against shooting so those 3 point grots can tank wounds like a riptide. Get them some cover and roll the stealth in ruins for 3+ cover T7 grots.
Pretty much nailed it, I only ever bring KMK's and use Lootas for AA fire.
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-Kannonz are not necessery cause we have lots of cheap rokkits now and low mobility heavy rokkits are not the best of the lot even for the points. They're still pretty good as leftover point-holders. What they are good for is being a front gun in trakktor batteries.
-Lobbas are hands down our best ranged anti-infantry and the only gun capable of stopping blos'd wiverns from obliterating your nice little horde.
-Zzap guns are mediocre on paper but pretty nice in actual games. I've had 50/50 results with them. The fact that they always shake vehicles is huge both for you and your opponent. If only they were a bit more reliable. Ideal in mid-sized squads where you can mitigate potential overheats.
-Smashas are the opposite case. They're nice on paper. But i haven't had any success with them so far. Yep, they can potentially be s8+ ap1 but they're quite expensive yet unreliable. You need more of them in a single squad to guarantee that some will get necessary str. But than if you take 4-5, it's a huge point sink that can be either avoided or killed in one go, if you take 1-3 it might not be enough. At least Zzaps auto-shake stuff.
-KMK are our go-to gun together with lobbas. S8 ap2 blasts are good, no more, no less. This guns will make even the toughest deepstrikers nervous.
-Trakktor. Very meta-dependent. If you face daemons and nids, they're great. If not, they're worse than kannonz.
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Oh, yep, forgot bout bubblechukkas. Another example of a gun that's bad on paper but is somehow fine in actual games. At least, it was fine for me. Though, lobbas are always better.
Looking at it as an outsider, most of the guns are either bad or or good but redundant. The only real standout for me is the KMK, because high strength low AP and blasts are a pretty unique combination for Orks.
Lobbas are backfield objective holders. KMKs are if you want Gunz for killin.
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