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Im gonna get hate for this but I had a legitimate wondering about it.

Why arent their Female Space Marines? I know theres the Sororitas, but why did Big E never have a daughter primarch or make the geneseed compatible with females?

There have been vague and scientifically-dubious hints in the fluff at times over the years that the geneseed only 'works' with males.

As to why the Emperor didn't design geneseed for women? That's anybody's guess, but the most likely answer is just 'because the game's background was thought up by a couple of gamers back in the late '80s, and it just didn't occur to them to have female space marines'.

I'm tempted to say "And that's that!" and lock this now, because this NEVER ends well.

But I guess we'll see, right?

 Alpharius wrote:
I'm tempted to say "And that's that!" and lock this now, because this NEVER ends well.

But I guess we'll see, right?

Im quite serious about it. If the Emps had... a lot of children, you'd think maybe 1 of the 18 legions would be lead by a female primarch

Fluff-wise, there is no adiquite answer. It just so happened that the space marines were all male when they were designed (although I think there was one in rouge trader, maybe ), and it sort of stuck. Although, tbh, after all the surgery, genetic and physical enhancement, ect, there really would be very little difference between female and male space marines, especially with their helmets on.

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
Fluff-wise, there is no adiquite answer. It just so happened that the space marines were all male when they were designed (although I think there was one in rouge trader, maybe ), .

There were two 'female space marine' models made way back before the fluff was fleshed out. Their description was later changed to 'Female adventurers in power armour'.

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
Fluff-wise, there is no adiquite answer. It just so happened that the space marines were all male when they were designed (although I think there was one in rouge trader, maybe ), and it sort of stuck. Although, tbh, after all the surgery, genetic and physical enhancement, ect, there really would be very little difference between female and male space marines, especially with their helmets on.

I thought the only differences would have been a slight variance in stature and speech (unless a vox unit is like a text to speech device...)

Because GW said so. There is no other reason. Female space marines are no more or less plausible than male space marines, but GW wanted them to have the fluff of being an order of warrior monks with the whole "sacred brotherhood" thing as a defining element of their character.

 Tactical_Spam wrote:
Im gonna get hate for this but I had a legitimate wondering about it.

Why arent their Female Space Marines? I know theres the Sororitas, but why did Big E never have a daughter primarch or make the geneseed compatible with females?

Why would you? Unless the gene-seed completely hijacked the female body until it basically became male, there would be no point as the female initiates would be weaker than the males by the structure of their skeleton and musculature. Plus compared to the male aspirants, the amount of potential female recruits would be dramatically lower than the males given the trials look for incredible strength and combat prowess. There's no reason for the Emperor to make either a Female Primarch or design geneseed to accept female aspirants without killing them. Although this ties into the greater issue of allowing women into combat roles, as per the study by the USMC, women are more likely to suffer injury in the field and struggle to keep up with male counterparts.

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

I thought the only differences would have been a slight variance in stature and speech (unless a vox unit is like a text to speech device...)

Given all of the hormones and extra organs and suchlike, 'realistically' there probably wouldn't be a whole heck of a lot of difference.

But because of the exagerated proportions of the models, it still 'feels' wrong to just take a Space Marine model and call it a female... We're hardwired to expect the female form to be smaller and slimmer, or at least differently shaped.

There's also the 'fantasy' aspect of these sorts of games. While proportions are exaggerated on the models, males and females tend to be exaggerated in different ways - males to make them bulkier, and females to make them curvier. The extent of that difference will vary from manufacturer to manufacturer.

 Wyzilla wrote:
Unless the gene-seed completely hijacked the female body until it basically became male, there would be no point as the female initiates would be weaker than the males by the structure of their skeleton and musculature.

Biologically a male human is much closer to a female human than to a space marine. This is like saying that you'd better be very careful about the difference between priming your models black and priming them very dark gray.

Plus compared to the male aspirants, the amount of potential female recruits would be dramatically lower than the males given the trials look for incredible strength and combat prowess.

This is entirely a cultural thing. Recruiting based on strength or whatever is just a religious ritual and probably has very little to do with the final product. You could just as plausibly invent a chapter that recruits from a world where women are the fighters and puts them through the same testing rituals.

There's no reason for the Emperor to make either a Female Primarch or design geneseed to accept female aspirants without killing them.

There's also no reason for geneseed to only work on men except because GW said so. Geneseed that works equally well on both sexes is no more or less plausible than geneseed that only works on one sex.

Although this ties into the greater issue of allowing women into combat roles, as per the study by the USMC, women are more likely to suffer injury in the field and struggle to keep up with male counterparts.

What does this have to do with anything? There's no reason at all to believe that female and male space marines would have the same physical differences as female and male humans. After all, I'm pretty sure that the USMC study didn't involve female soldiers that had been transformed into 10' tall superhumans.

 insaniak wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

I thought the only differences would have been a slight variance in stature and speech (unless a vox unit is like a text to speech device...)

Given all of the hormones and extra organs and suchlike, 'realistically' there probably wouldn't be a whole heck of a lot of difference.

But because of the exagerated proportions of the models, it still 'feels' wrong to just take a Space Marine model and call it a female... We're hardwired to expect the female form to be smaller and slimmer, or at least differently shaped.

There's also the 'fantasy' aspect of these sorts of games. While proportions are exaggerated on the models, males and females tend to be exaggerated in different ways - males to make them bulkier, and females to make them curvier. The extent of that difference will vary from manufacturer to manufacturer.

Pretty much. In order to have a female space marine that wasn't physically inferior to the rest of the Chapter, you'd need the augmentations to render her indistinguishable from the male Astartes and defeat the point from a modeling perspective.

 Wyzilla wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:
Im gonna get hate for this but I had a legitimate wondering about it.

Why arent their Female Space Marines? I know theres the Sororitas, but why did Big E never have a daughter primarch or make the geneseed compatible with females?

Why would you? Unless the gene-seed completely hijacked the female body until it basically became male, there would be no point as the female initiates would be weaker than the males by the structure of their skeleton and musculature. Plus compared to the male aspirants, the amount of potential female recruits would be dramatically lower than the males given the trials look for incredible strength and combat prowess. There's no reason for the Emperor to make either a Female Primarch or design geneseed to accept female aspirants without killing them. Although this ties into the greater issue of allowing women into combat roles, as per the study by the USMC, women are more likely to suffer injury in the field and struggle to keep up with male counterparts.

But we arent talking about female humans but astartes and consider the extra stuff astartes have done to/in their bodies they would be much more effective than humans. And dont those studies show that females are "smarter?" Ive read into some studies showing that females are more intuitive than males on average

 Peregrine wrote:

 Wyzilla wrote:
Unless the gene-seed completely hijacked the female body until it basically became male, there would be no point as the female initiates would be weaker than the males by the structure of their skeleton and musculature.

Biologically a male human is much closer to a female human than to a space marine. This is like saying that you'd better be very careful about the difference between priming your models black and priming them very dark gray.

Huh? The point is that a female recruit will almost always be worse than a male recruit, and will continue to be worse as an Astartes unless the gene seed basically changes her sex.

Plus compared to the male aspirants, the amount of potential female recruits would be dramatically lower than the males given the trials look for incredible strength and combat prowess.

This is entirely a cultural thing. Recruiting based on strength or whatever is just a religious ritual and probably has very little to do with the final product. You could just as plausibly invent a chapter that recruits from a world where women are the fighters and puts them through the same testing rituals.

You are talking about, perhaps, one of the greatest minds ever. The emperor could most definitely have made the conversion process work for both men and women. But he didn't because that would require a massive retcon that GW wasn't comfortable with, or really needed. No "woman can't be as good as men", no "the conversion process wouldn't work", just the simple fact that they were male when they were designed, and it stuck.

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
You are talking about, perhaps, one of the greatest minds ever. The emperor could most definitely have made the conversion process work for both men and women. But he didn't because that would require a massive retcon that GW wasn't comfortable with, or really needed. No "woman can't be as good as men", no "the conversion process wouldn't work", just the simple fact that they were male when they were designed, and it stuck.

Going off of this, what if he made female space marines (humour me here) different than male ones. Where Male marines would be built like a cookie cutter 350 pound, 8 foot tall hulk with a barrel chest, the female ones would be more focused on speed and agility/stealth...

Just a thought

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
You are talking about, perhaps, one of the greatest minds ever. The emperor could most definitely have made the conversion process work for both men and women. But he didn't because that would require a massive retcon that GW wasn't comfortable with, or really needed. No "woman can't be as good as men", no "the conversion process wouldn't work", just the simple fact that they were male when they were designed, and it stuck.

Going off of this, what if he made female space marines (humour me here) different than male ones. Where Male marines would be built like a cookie cutter 350 pound, 8 foot tall hulk with a barrel chest, the female ones would be more focused on speed and agility/stealth...

Just a thought

Male marines can do agility and stealth. Look at the Raven Guard, Night lords and Alpha Legion. There is no incentive for the Emperor to make female marines different than male ones other than our culture's weird tendency to treat gender as some sort of video game class.

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
You are talking about, perhaps, one of the greatest minds ever. The emperor could most definitely have made the conversion process work for both men and women. But he didn't because that would require a massive retcon that GW wasn't comfortable with, or really needed. No "woman can't be as good as men", no "the conversion process wouldn't work", just the simple fact that they were male when they were designed, and it stuck.

Going off of this, what if he made female space marines (humour me here) different than male ones. Where Male marines would be built like a cookie cutter 350 pound, 8 foot tall hulk with a barrel chest, the female ones would be more focused on speed and agility/stealth...

Just a thought

Technically men do this better too. Unless you wanted the most flexible Space Marines in the world.

Female Space Marines would probably be better suited to giving birth to baby Space Marines. They can have a wet nurse caste and a birthing caste. While they do this they can assemble grenades for maximum efficiency. Then you have SM birthing, grenade making section which eliminates whatever process is needed for Marines currently.

Plus it's GW style gridmark.

 TheCustomLime wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
You are talking about, perhaps, one of the greatest minds ever. The emperor could most definitely have made the conversion process work for both men and women. But he didn't because that would require a massive retcon that GW wasn't comfortable with, or really needed. No "woman can't be as good as men", no "the conversion process wouldn't work", just the simple fact that they were male when they were designed, and it stuck.

Going off of this, what if he made female space marines (humour me here) different than male ones. Where Male marines would be built like a cookie cutter 350 pound, 8 foot tall hulk with a barrel chest, the female ones would be more focused on speed and agility/stealth...

Just a thought

Male marines can do agility and stealth. Look at the Raven Guard, Night lords and Alpha Legion. There is no incentive for the Emperor to make female marines different than male ones other than our culture's weird tendency to treat gender as some sort of video game class.

It was a suggestion. I was trying to say have them even stealthier and even more agile (like Eldar agile)

Why would they need women specifically to make them Eldar level agile?

 Swastakowey wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
You are talking about, perhaps, one of the greatest minds ever. The emperor could most definitely have made the conversion process work for both men and women. But he didn't because that would require a massive retcon that GW wasn't comfortable with, or really needed. No "woman can't be as good as men", no "the conversion process wouldn't work", just the simple fact that they were male when they were designed, and it stuck.

Going off of this, what if he made female space marines (humour me here) different than male ones. Where Male marines would be built like a cookie cutter 350 pound, 8 foot tall hulk with a barrel chest, the female ones would be more focused on speed and agility/stealth...

Just a thought

Technically men do this better too. Unless you wanted the most flexible Space Marines in the world.

Female Space Marines would probably be better suited to giving birth to baby Space Marines. They can have a wet nurse caste and a birthing caste. While they do this they can assemble grenades for maximum efficiency. Then you have SM birthing, grenade making section which eliminates whatever process is needed for Marines currently.

Plus it's GW style gridmark.

Is gernade making happening at the same time as child-birthing? Id give medals to that person...

You just gave me the a great mental imagery. Imagine all your space marine dudes in their thunder hawk going to purge some xenos. They land and disembark while, from the cockpit, yells their "mother" telling them to have a good day at purging and reminds brother Jimmius not to forget his lunch... Adeptus Mom-startes

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Swastakowey wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
You are talking about, perhaps, one of the greatest minds ever. The emperor could most definitely have made the conversion process work for both men and women. But he didn't because that would require a massive retcon that GW wasn't comfortable with, or really needed. No "woman can't be as good as men", no "the conversion process wouldn't work", just the simple fact that they were male when they were designed, and it stuck.

Going off of this, what if he made female space marines (humour me here) different than male ones. Where Male marines would be built like a cookie cutter 350 pound, 8 foot tall hulk with a barrel chest, the female ones would be more focused on speed and agility/stealth...

Just a thought

Technically men do this better too. Unless you wanted the most flexible Space Marines in the world.

Female Space Marines would probably be better suited to giving birth to baby Space Marines. They can have a wet nurse caste and a birthing caste. While they do this they can assemble grenades for maximum efficiency. Then you have SM birthing, grenade making section which eliminates whatever process is needed for Marines currently.

Plus it's GW style gridmark.

Is gernade making happening at the same time as child-birthing? Id give medals to that person...

You just gave me the a great mental imagery. Imagine all your space marine dudes in their thunder hawk going to purge some xenos. They land and disembark while, from the cockpit, yells their "mother" telling them to have a good day at purging and reminds brother Jimmius not to forget his lunch... Adeptus Mom-startes

Knowing GW probably yes. SM probably only take 12 days to grow in the womb or something, because super fetuses sound cool. Each SM lunch will likely have a Mom made grenade too.

 Alpharius wrote:
I'm tempted to say "And that's that!" and lock this now, because this NEVER ends well.

But I guess we'll see, right?

Ah, missed opportunities.......

 Swastakowey wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Swastakowey wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
You are talking about, perhaps, one of the greatest minds ever. The emperor could most definitely have made the conversion process work for both men and women. But he didn't because that would require a massive retcon that GW wasn't comfortable with, or really needed. No "woman can't be as good as men", no "the conversion process wouldn't work", just the simple fact that they were male when they were designed, and it stuck.

Going off of this, what if he made female space marines (humour me here) different than male ones. Where Male marines would be built like a cookie cutter 350 pound, 8 foot tall hulk with a barrel chest, the female ones would be more focused on speed and agility/stealth...

Just a thought

Technically men do this better too. Unless you wanted the most flexible Space Marines in the world.

Female Space Marines would probably be better suited to giving birth to baby Space Marines. They can have a wet nurse caste and a birthing caste. While they do this they can assemble grenades for maximum efficiency. Then you have SM birthing, grenade making section which eliminates whatever process is needed for Marines currently.

Plus it's GW style gridmark.

Is gernade making happening at the same time as child-birthing? Id give medals to that person...

You just gave me the a great mental imagery. Imagine all your space marine dudes in their thunder hawk going to purge some xenos. They land and disembark while, from the cockpit, yells their "mother" telling them to have a good day at purging and reminds brother Jimmius not to forget his lunch... Adeptus Mom-startes

Knowing GW probably yes. SM probably only take 12 days to grow in the womb or something, because super fetuses sound cool. Each SM lunch will likely have a Mom made grenade too.

So Mom-marines would have extremely high pain thresholds and a knack for making Explosives?

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Swastakowey wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Swastakowey wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
You are talking about, perhaps, one of the greatest minds ever. The emperor could most definitely have made the conversion process work for both men and women. But he didn't because that would require a massive retcon that GW wasn't comfortable with, or really needed. No "woman can't be as good as men", no "the conversion process wouldn't work", just the simple fact that they were male when they were designed, and it stuck.

Going off of this, what if he made female space marines (humour me here) different than male ones. Where Male marines would be built like a cookie cutter 350 pound, 8 foot tall hulk with a barrel chest, the female ones would be more focused on speed and agility/stealth...

Just a thought

Technically men do this better too. Unless you wanted the most flexible Space Marines in the world.

Female Space Marines would probably be better suited to giving birth to baby Space Marines. They can have a wet nurse caste and a birthing caste. While they do this they can assemble grenades for maximum efficiency. Then you have SM birthing, grenade making section which eliminates whatever process is needed for Marines currently.

Plus it's GW style gridmark.

Is gernade making happening at the same time as child-birthing? Id give medals to that person...

You just gave me the a great mental imagery. Imagine all your space marine dudes in their thunder hawk going to purge some xenos. They land and disembark while, from the cockpit, yells their "mother" telling them to have a good day at purging and reminds brother Jimmius not to forget his lunch... Adeptus Mom-startes

Knowing GW probably yes. SM probably only take 12 days to grow in the womb or something, because super fetuses sound cool. Each SM lunch will likely have a Mom made grenade too.

So Mom-marines would have extremely high pain thresholds and a knack for making Explosives?

If a Space Marine can live half warped inside a rock (apparently) or get blown in half an keep fighting then im sure they can handle childbirth. So yes. Also they need to make something for when they are not in labour to help cover their cost and keep them busy.

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 TheCustomLime wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
You are talking about, perhaps, one of the greatest minds ever. The emperor could most definitely have made the conversion process work for both men and women. But he didn't because that would require a massive retcon that GW wasn't comfortable with, or really needed. No "woman can't be as good as men", no "the conversion process wouldn't work", just the simple fact that they were male when they were designed, and it stuck.

Going off of this, what if he made female space marines (humour me here) different than male ones. Where Male marines would be built like a cookie cutter 350 pound, 8 foot tall hulk with a barrel chest, the female ones would be more focused on speed and agility/stealth...

Just a thought

Male marines can do agility and stealth. Look at the Raven Guard, Night lords and Alpha Legion. There is no incentive for the Emperor to make female marines different than male ones other than our culture's weird tendency to treat gender as some sort of video game class.

It was a suggestion. I was trying to say have them even stealthier and even more agile (like Eldar agile)

But have you read SM fluff. These guys are beyond human maximum in all aspects. Agility, intelligence, strength, toughness, combat prowess, etc. And its not the human that does this, but all of the cybernetics, gene therapy, chemical growths etc. It doesn't matter what the top of humanity could provide, male or female, once you undergo the process to make a space marine, you are no longer human. Pretty much think of it this way. It doesn't matter if the asperants strength aspect is a 1, 2, or 3. Once you become a Space Marine its dialed up to a 4 by many artificial means.

I dont often applaud GW for sticking to their guns, because most of their decisions I disagree with, however, SM being male and only male; I don't have a problem with at all.

 Swastakowey wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Swastakowey wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Swastakowey wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
You are talking about, perhaps, one of the greatest minds ever. The emperor could most definitely have made the conversion process work for both men and women. But he didn't because that would require a massive retcon that GW wasn't comfortable with, or really needed. No "woman can't be as good as men", no "the conversion process wouldn't work", just the simple fact that they were male when they were designed, and it stuck.

Going off of this, what if he made female space marines (humour me here) different than male ones. Where Male marines would be built like a cookie cutter 350 pound, 8 foot tall hulk with a barrel chest, the female ones would be more focused on speed and agility/stealth...

Just a thought

Technically men do this better too. Unless you wanted the most flexible Space Marines in the world.

Female Space Marines would probably be better suited to giving birth to baby Space Marines. They can have a wet nurse caste and a birthing caste. While they do this they can assemble grenades for maximum efficiency. Then you have SM birthing, grenade making section which eliminates whatever process is needed for Marines currently.

Plus it's GW style gridmark.

Is gernade making happening at the same time as child-birthing? Id give medals to that person...

You just gave me the a great mental imagery. Imagine all your space marine dudes in their thunder hawk going to purge some xenos. They land and disembark while, from the cockpit, yells their "mother" telling them to have a good day at purging and reminds brother Jimmius not to forget his lunch... Adeptus Mom-startes

Knowing GW probably yes. SM probably only take 12 days to grow in the womb or something, because super fetuses sound cool. Each SM lunch will likely have a Mom made grenade too.

So Mom-marines would have extremely high pain thresholds and a knack for making Explosives?

If a Space Marine can live half warped inside a rock (apparently) or get blown in half an keep fighting then im sure they can handle childbirth. So yes. Also they need to make something for when they are not in labour to help cover their cost and keep them busy.

This is some GURPS Bio-Tech we just stepped into.

Are Mom marines just limited to child birth and making grenades (with love) then or are they actual combat units?

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Swastakowey wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Swastakowey wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Swastakowey wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
You are talking about, perhaps, one of the greatest minds ever. The emperor could most definitely have made the conversion process work for both men and women. But he didn't because that would require a massive retcon that GW wasn't comfortable with, or really needed. No "woman can't be as good as men", no "the conversion process wouldn't work", just the simple fact that they were male when they were designed, and it stuck.

Going off of this, what if he made female space marines (humour me here) different than male ones. Where Male marines would be built like a cookie cutter 350 pound, 8 foot tall hulk with a barrel chest, the female ones would be more focused on speed and agility/stealth...

Just a thought

Technically men do this better too. Unless you wanted the most flexible Space Marines in the world.

Female Space Marines would probably be better suited to giving birth to baby Space Marines. They can have a wet nurse caste and a birthing caste. While they do this they can assemble grenades for maximum efficiency. Then you have SM birthing, grenade making section which eliminates whatever process is needed for Marines currently.

Plus it's GW style gridmark.

Is gernade making happening at the same time as child-birthing? Id give medals to that person...

You just gave me the a great mental imagery. Imagine all your space marine dudes in their thunder hawk going to purge some xenos. They land and disembark while, from the cockpit, yells their "mother" telling them to have a good day at purging and reminds brother Jimmius not to forget his lunch... Adeptus Mom-startes

Knowing GW probably yes. SM probably only take 12 days to grow in the womb or something, because super fetuses sound cool. Each SM lunch will likely have a Mom made grenade too.

So Mom-marines would have extremely high pain thresholds and a knack for making Explosives?

If a Space Marine can live half warped inside a rock (apparently) or get blown in half an keep fighting then im sure they can handle childbirth. So yes. Also they need to make something for when they are not in labour to help cover their cost and keep them busy.

This is some GURPS Bio-Tech we just stepped into.

Are Mom marines just limited to child birth and making grenades (with love) then or are they actual combat units?

Why would they go into combat? The thing they do best is make SM and grenades. Sending them to combat would be wasteful. Especially with a 12 day gestation period.

 Swastakowey wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Swastakowey wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Swastakowey wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Swastakowey wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
You are talking about, perhaps, one of the greatest minds ever. The emperor could most definitely have made the conversion process work for both men and women. But he didn't because that would require a massive retcon that GW wasn't comfortable with, or really needed. No "woman can't be as good as men", no "the conversion process wouldn't work", just the simple fact that they were male when they were designed, and it stuck.

Going off of this, what if he made female space marines (humour me here) different than male ones. Where Male marines would be built like a cookie cutter 350 pound, 8 foot tall hulk with a barrel chest, the female ones would be more focused on speed and agility/stealth...

Just a thought

Technically men do this better too. Unless you wanted the most flexible Space Marines in the world.

Female Space Marines would probably be better suited to giving birth to baby Space Marines. They can have a wet nurse caste and a birthing caste. While they do this they can assemble grenades for maximum efficiency. Then you have SM birthing, grenade making section which eliminates whatever process is needed for Marines currently.

Plus it's GW style gridmark.

Is gernade making happening at the same time as child-birthing? Id give medals to that person...

You just gave me the a great mental imagery. Imagine all your space marine dudes in their thunder hawk going to purge some xenos. They land and disembark while, from the cockpit, yells their "mother" telling them to have a good day at purging and reminds brother Jimmius not to forget his lunch... Adeptus Mom-startes

Knowing GW probably yes. SM probably only take 12 days to grow in the womb or something, because super fetuses sound cool. Each SM lunch will likely have a Mom made grenade too.

So Mom-marines would have extremely high pain thresholds and a knack for making Explosives?

If a Space Marine can live half warped inside a rock (apparently) or get blown in half an keep fighting then im sure they can handle childbirth. So yes. Also they need to make something for when they are not in labour to help cover their cost and keep them busy.

This is some GURPS Bio-Tech we just stepped into.

Are Mom marines just limited to child birth and making grenades (with love) then or are they actual combat units?

Why would they go into combat? The thing they do best is make SM and grenades. Sending them to combat would be wasteful. Especially with a 12 day gestation period.

So who gets them preggers? the chapter master? Or does it just happen...

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Swastakowey wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Swastakowey wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Swastakowey wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Swastakowey wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
You are talking about, perhaps, one of the greatest minds ever. The emperor could most definitely have made the conversion process work for both men and women. But he didn't because that would require a massive retcon that GW wasn't comfortable with, or really needed. No "woman can't be as good as men", no "the conversion process wouldn't work", just the simple fact that they were male when they were designed, and it stuck.

Going off of this, what if he made female space marines (humour me here) different than male ones. Where Male marines would be built like a cookie cutter 350 pound, 8 foot tall hulk with a barrel chest, the female ones would be more focused on speed and agility/stealth...

Just a thought

Technically men do this better too. Unless you wanted the most flexible Space Marines in the world.

Female Space Marines would probably be better suited to giving birth to baby Space Marines. They can have a wet nurse caste and a birthing caste. While they do this they can assemble grenades for maximum efficiency. Then you have SM birthing, grenade making section which eliminates whatever process is needed for Marines currently.

Plus it's GW style gridmark.

Is gernade making happening at the same time as child-birthing? Id give medals to that person...

You just gave me the a great mental imagery. Imagine all your space marine dudes in their thunder hawk going to purge some xenos. They land and disembark while, from the cockpit, yells their "mother" telling them to have a good day at purging and reminds brother Jimmius not to forget his lunch... Adeptus Mom-startes

Knowing GW probably yes. SM probably only take 12 days to grow in the womb or something, because super fetuses sound cool. Each SM lunch will likely have a Mom made grenade too.

So Mom-marines would have extremely high pain thresholds and a knack for making Explosives?

If a Space Marine can live half warped inside a rock (apparently) or get blown in half an keep fighting then im sure they can handle childbirth. So yes. Also they need to make something for when they are not in labour to help cover their cost and keep them busy.

This is some GURPS Bio-Tech we just stepped into.

Are Mom marines just limited to child birth and making grenades (with love) then or are they actual combat units?

Why would they go into combat? The thing they do best is make SM and grenades. Sending them to combat would be wasteful. Especially with a 12 day gestation period.

So who gets them preggers? the chapter master? Or does it just happen...

The Emperors excrement goes into tubes which then gets eaten by cherubs and the pooped again which then goes into a special factory which (info classified) and then showers the Momstartes once every 12 days.