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Hey mates. Got the first few models made and build and looking to start priming them here in a bit. Just to get an idea so that they look pretty good, how do you go about doing that? At the moment, this is what I was planning doing:

* Prime the fully built model Black (including Shoulder Pads).

* Wash the Black with a black wash obviously.

* Do a layer of Codex Gray for the Shoulder Pads, Followed by a coat or two of White.

* Touch up from there.

Anyone else have done somethign like this when painting your Black Templars? The model themselves are no a problem, the only niche I am trying to figure out is the process of painting the Shoulder Pads. Anty advice you expereicned players can give me would be greatly apprciated.
   
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Hardened Veteran Guardsman




Shanghai, China

I don't know but washing a black model with black wash seems pointless.

Black is hard to paint, the best BT I've seen are plain black and have great highlights painted on them.
   
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Ship's Officer





Dallas, TX

I'd suggest a coat of heavy drybrushing of Vallejo German grey over the black primer before a black wash, it's the darkest grey that I have come across, that way it will bring out some details, then you can do some selective edge highlighting with codex grey.
   
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Enigmatic Chaos Sorcerer





British Columbia

A friend of mine built the whole model minus the shoulder pads. Then primed the Marine black and the shoulder pads white.

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Grizzled Space Wolves Great Wolf





Trying to create black using washes doesn't usually work out all that well because washing naturally focuses the paint in the crevices where as when you're painting black you tend to want to focus on the highlights more than the shades.

If it were me, I'd probably prime the model white, then mask off the white areas and spray the model black.
   
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Sinister Chaos Marine






Queensland, Australia

When I paint black I prime with black spray primer

*1st coat black
*Dry brush edges with a very dark purple or blue
*2nd Dry brush run with ice blue.
Iv'e have always been happy with the results I get from this method.

If you want to use a wash though don't start with black as your base coat, use something like Vallejo Game Colour's Charcoal black, that way your wash will actually be useful and you will notice the shading in the recessions,

When I use Charcoal as the base I then dry brush with Somber Grey and then extreme highlights by dry brushing with heavy blue grey

These are all Vallejo so refer to the paint compatibility chart if you're using a different line.

Here's a pic of the results I get using the first method, some might not like it but I'm happy with it and that's what it comes down to I guess.
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Blood-Drenched Death Company Marine





United Kingdom

Not Templars, but my Crimson Tears are largely black and white:



I prime black, then go over it with a couple of coats of Army Painter Matt Black. Highlight with Vallejo Model Colour Neutral Grey.

The white is built up over the black starting with Vallejo Ghosty Grey, moving onto GW Ceramite White and finishing with VMC White. Then I go and do shading either by using VGC Stonewall Grey and building back up tp pure white or Vallejo Pale Grey Wash


Regarding the points in your OP

Washing black with black will achieve little. As above, you could start with a very dark grey (Vallejo Game Colour Charcoal Grey is definitely the darkest I've encountered) and washing that heavily will probably get you a near black and almost pure black on the recesses.

If you paint white over pure codex grey, you'll need a lot more than a coat or two unless you're slopping it on to detail obscuring extent.

I assemble mine in pieces which makes doing the shoulder pads a lot easier. and generally do the white first.

   
 
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