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So I was mucking around on BattleScribe today making ridiculous lists, and made a 21 man necron unit costing 1855 points. I was wondering how high other armies could reach with minimum amount of troops
I was thinking to make it semi fair:
1. No LoW above 300pts
2. IC are allowed to join unit but maximum of one unnamed IC per unit (i.e Lord/OLord/Cryptek ect)
3. Unit must have min/max numbers allowed in codex
4. Options and accessories must be applicable and allowed per normal unit coherency and not just tacked on to increase points. (i.e adding a God shackle on a cryptek with no C'tan)
5. Can be Unbound
6. No allies
7. IC's make sense with unit (attaching footslogging IC's with jetbikes/heavy supports ect)
Have fun with it guys
My attempt:
Spoiler:
10x Lychguard w Hyperphase Swords & Dispersion Shields (300pts)
1x Cryptek w/ Phase shifter & The Solar Staff (105pts)
1x Lord w/ Gauntlet of Fire, The Orb of Eternity, Warscythe (120pts)
1x Overlord w/ Gauntlet of Fire, Res Orb, Solar Thermasite, Voidreaper (170pts)
1x Destroyer Lord w/ Res Orb, The Veil of Darkness, Warscythe (180pts)
1x Anrakyr the Traveller (160pts)
1x Illuminor Szeras (110pts)
1x Nemesor Zahndrekh (150pts)
1x Orikan the Diviner (120pts)
1x Trazyn the Infinite (130pts)
1x Vagard Obyron (120pts)
1x Imotekh the Stormlord (190pts)
21 models @ 1855 pts
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What's the point of ics? Which book has more separate ic entries?
Anywayz, here's a unit without extra IC-s.
Spoiler:
"Green Tide"
····Boyz ['Eavy Armour for Mob, 3x Boy w/ Big Shoota]
········Boss Nob [Bosspole, Kombi-weapon w/ Skorcha, Power Klaw]
········26x Boy [26x Shoota]
····Boyz ['Eavy Armour for Mob, 3x Boy w/ Big Shoota]
········Boss Nob [Bosspole, Kombi-weapon w/ Skorcha, Power Klaw]
········26x Boy [26x Shoota]
····Boyz ['Eavy Armour for Mob, 3x Boy w/ Big Shoota]
········Boss Nob [Bosspole, Kombi-weapon w/ Skorcha, Power Klaw]
········26x Boy [26x Shoota]
····Boyz ['Eavy Armour for Mob, 3x Boy w/ Big Shoota]
········Boss Nob [Bosspole, Kombi-weapon w/ Skorcha, Power Klaw]
········26x Boy [26x Shoota]
····Boyz ['Eavy Armour for Mob, 3x Boy w/ Big Shoota]
········Boss Nob [Bosspole, Kombi-weapon w/ Skorcha, Power Klaw]
········26x Boy [26x Shoota]
····Boyz ['Eavy Armour for Mob, 3x Boy w/ Big Shoota]
········Boss Nob [Bosspole, Kombi-weapon w/ Skorcha, Power Klaw]
········26x Boy [26x Shoota]
····Boyz ['Eavy Armour for Mob, 3x Boy w/ Big Shoota]
········Boss Nob [Bosspole, Kombi-weapon w/ Skorcha, Power Klaw]
········26x Boy [26x Shoota]
····Boyz ['Eavy Armour for Mob, 3x Boy w/ Big Shoota]
········Boss Nob [Bosspole, Kombi-weapon w/ Skorcha, Power Klaw]
········26x Boy [26x Shoota]
····Boyz ['Eavy Armour for Mob, 3x Boy w/ Big Shoota]
········Boss Nob [Bosspole, Kombi-weapon w/ Skorcha, Power Klaw]
········26x Boy [26x Shoota]
····Boyz ['Eavy Armour for Mob, 3x Boy w/ Big Shoota]
········Boss Nob [Bosspole, Kombi-weapon w/ Skorcha, Power Klaw]
········26x Boy [26x Shoota]
····Warboss [3x Ammo Runt, Attack Squig, Bosspole, Cybork Body, Gitfinda, Gubbinz: Big Bosspole, Gubbinz: Choppa of Ragnarork, Gubbinz: Da Killa Klaw, Gubbinz: Da Supa-Cybork, Gubbinz: Kill-dakka]
········Mega Armour [Big Choppa, Kombi-weapon w/ Skorcha]
4224 pts.
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My apologies, I seem to have gotten my words mixed up
What I was trying to say was how many points can you get out of one squad/unit, for instance, a single squad of Boyz, not a whole green tide (To be fair, I dont know anything about Orks, is the Green tide considered a unit of orks or a formation ) . Hence why IC's come into the fold, they can join to the singular squad, dramatically increasing the points while keeping the model count low.
relics: ~@200 Fibulator node, warscaper drone, fusion blades, ECPA, mirrorcodex, Talismon *Don't recall exact points for some.. so this may be off
So far without any ICs I am at ~1200 points
And my one non named IC Commander @180: x2 CIBs, shield generator, Stim injector, x2 drones
So in total... ~1380 pts.
Including named IC... this gets a bit confusing, as its possible that If I bring "The Eight" in a game, everyone but OVesa could join this single unit" For practicality I also won't have the broadside join. ~1100 points of ICs then.
Grand total then is 35 models ~2500 points I know I rounded a bit.. but I was unsure on some point costs. XD
If I drop the drones except for 1(warscaper)16 models ~@2270 points
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10 paladins w/ 9 hammers 2 psycannons a nemesis banner an apothecary 10 digital weapons 10 master-crafted upgrade 10 teleport homers 10 melta bombs joined by a Grand master w/ Nemesis Daemon hammer 1 psycannon a digital weapon a master-crafted upgrade a teleport homer melta bombs and the Domina Liber Daemonica.
1360 points
How's that for a deathstar?
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10 paladins w/ 9 hammers 2 psycannons a nemesis banner an apothecary 10 digital weapons 10 master-crafted upgrade 10 teleport homers 10 melta bombs joined by a Grand master w/ Nemesis Daemon hammer 1 psycannon a digital weapon a master-crafted upgrade a teleport homer melta bombs and the Domina Liber Daemonica.
1360 points
How's that for a deathstar?
Grav cannons say hi. If you can't make this unit invisible it's dead in a heartbeat.
7000 pts 1000 pts 2000 pts 500 pts 3000 pts
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10 paladins w/ 9 hammers 2 psycannons a nemesis banner an apothecary 10 digital weapons 10 master-crafted upgrade 10 teleport homers 10 melta bombs joined by a Grand master w/ Nemesis Daemon hammer 1 psycannon a digital weapon a master-crafted upgrade a teleport homer melta bombs and the Domina Liber Daemonica.
1360 points
How's that for a deathstar?
Grav cannons say hi. If you can't make this unit invisible it's dead in a heartbeat.
Although true.. I think counter's are a little offtopic.. as i think the OP intended for ludicrous point sized units, not really effective or uncounterable =)
I think excluding the green tide, the most expensive you can get is the crisis suits fully kitted out with the 8 attached to them, with a commander and max gun drones.
Well heres an expencive and near useless unit.
9 nid warriors with 8×spitters 1×venom cannon all with lash whips and swords. Adrenal glands. Flesh hooks and toxin sacs
these come in at 608 pts.
then add a nid prime with- flesh hooks. Adrenals. Toxin. Regen. Acid blood. Reaper of obliterax. Ymgal factor and Misma cannon this comes in at a huge 310pts.
so combined its 918pts for 10 models with no invuns and majority toughness 4 and majority armour 4.
15 Death Company w/ Dual TH, Jump Packs and a Razorback with all upgrades + Astorath is 1575. Unorthodox, because you want to make enough use of I5 but 75 S9 ap2 reroll to hit and wound munches through anything that can't kill enough before they strike. (Would never run, the i5 isbway too good to pass up)
Green Tide formation, with warboss and boyz alone (eavy armour) is 3064.
CCS with Creed, Kell, Nork
Astropath Ordnance Fleet
All with Camo gear Krak grenades and carapace
3x demo charges
On a chimera with all the fixings
630 poinys
"Got you, Yugi! Your Rubric Marines can't fall back because I have declared the tertiary kaptaris ka'tah stance two, after the secondary dacatarai ka'tah last turn!"
"So you think, Kaiba! I declared my Thousand Sons the cult of Duplicity, which means all my psykers have access to the Sorcerous Facade power! Furthermore I will spend 8 Cabal Points to invoke Cabbalistic Focus, causing the rubrics to appear behind your custodes! The Vengeance for the Wronged and Sorcerous Fullisade stratagems along with the Malefic Maelstrom infernal pact evoked earlier in the command phase allows me to double their firepower, letting me wound on 2s and 3s!"
"you think it is you who has gotten me, yugi, but it is I who have gotten you! I declare the ever-vigilant stratagem to attack your rubrics with my custodes' ranged weapons, which with the new codex are now DAMAGE 2!!"
"...which leads you straight into my trap, Kaiba, you see I now declare the stratagem Implacable Automata, reducing all damage from your attacks by 1 and triggering my All is Dust special rule!"
So the Tau list (w/o the drones) comes in at 141.8 Points per model
Grey Knight list comes in at 123.6 Ppm
The Death Company comes in at 98.4 Ppm
The nid list comes in at 91.8 Ppm
My list is @ 88.3 Ppm
Ork list @ 14.03 Ppm
Imperial Guard Infantry Platoon (not including the Platoon Command Squad since it can't combine): 1080pts, 250 models
5 Infantry Squads combined into 1 unit, each with a Flakk Missile Launcher, Plasma Gun, Vox Caster, Krak Grenades, Sgt with Power Weapon/Plasma Pistol/Melta Bombs. Attached characters are a Commissar (Power Fist/Plasma Pistol), Lord Commissar (Camo Gear, Melta Bombs, Carapace Armour, Plasma Pistol, Power Fist, Deathmask Relic), Ministorum Priest (Plasma Gun), Enginseer (Melta Bombs) and a Primaris Psyker (ML2).
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Ahh for the days of the unlimited psychic powers. You used to be able to have a chaos sorcerer that could buy a roll on a psychic powers chart for 10 points a roll. No limit.
See pics of my Orks, Tau, Emperor's Children, Necrons, Space Wolves, and Dark Eldar here:
While I know it's not going to win the top prize, I'll make an attempt at the most expensive Sisters of Battle unit.
...I'm gonna go ahead and ignore the fact that it's offering Cypher as an HQ.
Okies, so I came up with:
Spoiler:
145pts Canoness - Combi-Flamer, Eviscerator, Rosarius, Mantle of Ophelia (whatever that does, it was the most expensive relic and my codex is packed in a box)
310pts Battle Sisters Squad - 20 models total, 1 Heavy Flamer, 1 Meltagun, 1 Simulacrum Imperialis, Veteran Superior with Plasma Pistol and Power Axe
(no transport because they'd never fit in one and transports are separate units)
455pts total
...This has brought to light for me the amazing lack of options for Sororitas units.
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Frozocrone wrote: 15 Death Company w/ Dual TH, Jump Packs and a Razorback with all upgrades + Astorath is 1575. Unorthodox, because you want to make enough use of I5 but 75 S9 ap2 reroll to hit and wound munches through anything that can't kill enough before they strike. (Would never run, the i5 isbway too good to pass up)
Green Tide formation, with warboss and boyz alone (eavy armour) is 3064.
Whilst this won't get top slot, there is a lot more that can be added to this. Lemartes, Dante, Jump Pack Libby, Jump Pack Sang priest, Jump Pack captain.
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True. Even with just one unnamedharacter attached, you can use all the SC in the book (making it really unviable due to terminator characters) and clock it at 3075.
Which is pretty dang expensive, but again, GreenTide clocks in at 3064 min with just eavy armour (and the warboss is required, so I don't count him in for that one IC restriction.
Automatically Appended Next Post: EDIT: A max GreenTide formation is 4209 points.
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I was wondering how high other armies could reach with minimum amount of troops 
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