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It was more about the cost of getting to the rock without damaging hte cruiser, the time it took to move the rock (And expendables-- foodstuffs, wages, fuel) consumed during said time being far greater than the cost of simply firing a few torpedos. And because of the time spent moving said rock, said time was not spent fighting the enemies of the Emperor.

Remember, Imperial Navy ships are huge.


edit: Actually, hrm. I can't find that story. Blarghl! Regardless, the Munitorum is a notorious penny-pusher IIRC, punishing Guardsmen heavily for losing even the cheapest of equipment (this from the Imperial Infantryman's Primer).

The primer also makes the lasgun out to be a holy relic, they even pray to it. I got a more uber religious feel out of it rather than a penny-pushing one.

But the 'penny-pushers' of the Munitorum do not finance the ordo militaris of the ecclesiarchy.
They don't care if the 'imperial cult' spents more than neccessary on its adventures into wars of faith as long as those pay for transfer with imperial navy vessels.

So its still up to the ecclesiarchy to collect enough to 'waste' it afterwards.

The point to make should be the concept of the humble servant. But the priesthood is a pompous bunch, so maybe the sisters would prefer a effective armor with less bling on whilst the imperial cult in its form of the ecclesiarchy like to compete with other imperial organizations and put as much extras on 'their' forces as possible.

No, but the Imperial Cult does. Waste is waste. I just don't imagine people consistently spending so much money on something which doesn't work for ten thousand years. I'm not THAT misanthropic.

Why doesn't the Armor work, exactly?

Melissia wrote:No, but the Imperial Cult does. Waste is waste. I just don't imagine people consistently spending so much money on something which doesn't work for ten thousand years. I'm not THAT misanthropic.

I should have said that was the basic point of 40K.

asimo77 wrote:Wait I'm confused, the adept wanted to save resources by using a big rock, but was punished for wasting resources? Wouldn't using the missiles be a waste?

Rocks are NOT "free," citizen!

Classic fluff.

Ah yes, that's it. Great stuff.

Oh god not the BLUE chair!!!

That was pretty great, "His Sacred Money" and "therapeutic accounting training" are some real gems.

I think they should be modeled to look better. Im not saying sexy, but if they are done in the quality of say....the DE resculpts, then that would be fine

Monster Rain wrote:Why doesn't the Armor work, exactly?

It does work.

And I don't think anyone said it didn't...

Melissia wrote:No, but the Imperial Cult does. Waste is waste. I just don't imagine people consistently spending so much money on something which doesn't work for ten thousand years. I'm not THAT misanthropic.

I thought you were still talking about armor here.

At the end of the day, gratuitous boob armor fits right in with gratuitous gargoyles on battleships that fight at tens or even hundreds of kilometers away and thus those gargoyles will never been seen.

Maybe it's so the Ecclesiarchy can tell the Adeptus Munitorum, "LOOK! THey have BOOBIES, we have no "men" under arms.

Fetterkey wrote:Rocks are NOT "free," citizen!

Classic fluff.

That is all kinds of win.

Yes, I remember reading that at the back of the Chapter Approved Book.

Classic.

I'd say an excellent example of female armor is that worn by Mila Jovavich in the move, "the Messenger".

Yes they need redoing, yes DE are the best to date examples of functional yet feminine sculpts, yes they are probably practice for SoB

They should be more or less the same level as sexy as the new Wytches, hopefully less

The boob fitting armor should be a tad less, have it almost morphed into the armor instead of just jutting out.

Some sexy to the SC, BUT NOT TOO MUCH SEXY ( for my shirt )

Overall they should be my opinion on gays/weaboos/furries/emos/ect., you CAN be ( in this case ) sexy, just don't flaunt it around.

I'll never cease to be amazed at the things posted on this forum.

Armor with breasts is unrealistic, fighting in a bikini with no shoes on is "functional."

Monster Rain wrote:I'll never cease to be amazed at the things posted on this forum.

Armor with breasts is unrealistic, fighting in a bikini with no shoes on is "functional."

Nice strawman you got there.

I'm relatively certain not one person in this thread has said that. Except for you, as you pretend that we did.

Brother Heinrich wrote:I'd say an excellent example of female armor is that worn by Mila Jovavich in the move, "the Messenger".

Oohh... One of my favorite movies, aside from Hoffmann...

I used to think: "If only WFB had the same level of energy in each battle."

SaintHazard wrote:

Monster Rain wrote:I'll never cease to be amazed at the things posted on this forum.

Armor with breasts is unrealistic, fighting in a bikini with no shoes on is "functional."

Nice strawman you got there.

I'm relatively certain not one person in this thread has said that. Except for you, as you pretend that we did.

I could quote it, but it amuses me more to see people pretend like they didn't say things that are still in existence a few pages back.

Monster Rain wrote:I could quote it, but it amuses me more to see people pretend like they didn't say things that are still in existence a few pages back.

Dude, seriously. Do you just look at the pictures, or do you actually read the things people write underneath them?

If you're referring to my posting of Lelith Hesperax, you'll notice I was giving an example of a fairly realistic body type among female combatants. Nowhere in that post did I refer to what she was wearing. Not one word.

You go on ahead and quote it if you want to. You'll make yourself look like a fool if you do.

SaintHazard wrote:You go on ahead and quote it if you want to. You'll make yourself look like a fool if you do.

I disagree.

Either way, unless you edited it since, it's all there. You also aren't the only one I'm referring to, so don't feel so persecuted.

In my opinion, the breast should not make up more than 1/5th of the total width when viewing the model from the side. Otherwise it becomes too big.

The sisters should not be sexually appealing. The only things in 40k that were sexual were the old Daemonettes. Not they're gone, nothing is. Sisters don't really have a place doing it either. Besides, it fits the grim-dark idea much better.

Fetterkey wrote:

asimo77 wrote:Wait I'm confused, the adept wanted to save resources by using a big rock, but was punished for wasting resources? Wouldn't using the missiles be a waste?

Rocks are NOT "free," citizen!

Classic fluff.

Ya, that was awesome.

Melissia wrote:For the prices, I obtained them from the Dark Heresy, Rogue Trader, and Deathwatch roleplay systems.

It may be religion, but they're still human. They still want a return on their investment. Money and influence does not grow on trees.

You do realize these systems tweak points cost and rules to be easy and balanced (GW and blanace... HA) right? I doubt a single suit of power armor costs what thousands of lasguns do, though I can imagine it being on the order of a platoon or company of foot guardsmen... without plasma or melta weapons, both of which are expensive, plasma so much more so seeing as almost no body has a mastery of it save for one planet in the cosmos. I think meltas are more known and generally easily manufactured on most worlds. Granted most forge worlds can make plasma guns none make them Well.

gendoikari87 wrote:

Melissia wrote:For the prices, I obtained them from the Dark Heresy, Rogue Trader, and Deathwatch roleplay systems.

It may be religion, but they're still human. They still want a return on their investment. Money and influence does not grow on trees.

You do realize these systems tweak points cost and rules to be easy and balanced (GW and blanace... HA) right? I doubt a single suit of power armor costs what thousands of lasguns do, though I can imagine it being on the order of a platoon or company of foot guardsmen... without plasma or melta weapons, both of which are expensive, plasma so much more so seeing as almost no body has a mastery of it save for one planet in the cosmos. I think meltas are more known and generally easily manufactured on most worlds. Granted most forge worlds can make plasma guns none make them Well.

Not all game systems have "Balance" (or ease of play) as a design goal. Looking at DH, I don't think they cared too much about having nice even playing field. The prices of everything seem tweaked much more to reflect fluff value than gameplay value.

Chongara wrote:Not all game systems have "Balance" (or ease of play) as a design goal. Looking at DH, I don't think they cared too much about having nice even playing field. The prices of everything seem tweaked much more to reflect fluff value than gameplay value.

Amusingly enough, the TV Tropes page for Dark Heresy mentions that the decision on whether or not to fire your bolt pistol in that game can largely devolve down to whether or not you want your character to eat that month.