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So here are two lists I plan on building. Has been edited.



List 1 - Flesh Tearers Strike Force

Chaplain - 115
Angels Wings

3 x 5 x Death Company - 420
3 x Power fists
Jump Packs

2 x 5 x Tactical Squad - 260
2 x Heavy Flamer
2 x Meltabombs
2 x Rhinos

4 x 5 x Assault Squad - 540
4 x 2 x Meltaguns
4 x Combi-meltas
4 x Rhinos

2 x 5 x Assault Squad - 250
2 x 2 x Flamers
2 x 2 x Flamer Pistols
2 x Rhinos

5 x Devastators - 150
4 x Lascannons

5 x Devastators - 110
4 x Multi Meltas

Callidus Assassin - 145


Free Rhinos for all assault squads. Chaplain arrives from reserves with the three squads of Death Company.



List 2 - Blood Angels Strike Force

Chaplain - 90

10 x Death Company - 265
2 x Powerfists
Power Axe

2 x 10 x Death Company - 450
2 x Powerfists

3 x 5 x Tactical Squad - 375
3 x Heavy Flamers
3 x Rhinos

Spartan Assault Tank - 330
Heavy Flamer
TL Heavy Flamer

Land Raider Redeemer - 240

Land Raider Crusader - 250



Death Company Squads take a Land Raider each. Chaplain joins the squad with two powerfists.

Errrr...there's just a slight problem. You'll lose automatically at the end of turn 1.

The formation forces you to deep strike the vanguard and have the sternguard ride the Ravens, which start in reserve by virtue of being flyers. They don't have any special rule allowing a turn 1 entrance. :(

Ah well Ill edit this later then.

I don't think this list would be very competitive using Double Sanguine Wing. Its nice with all the fire power and assault but you really don't have any HQ or other support units.

I would look at either running a Baal Strike Force or if you want look at running an Archangel demi-company (I think thats what its called). if you want to run the 1st company.

Thread has been updated.

WinterInAshes wrote:
Thread has been updated.

lmao

I can see that now after I had posted my comments lol .

I think what you have now is much better list.

List 1:
-Not wild about filling rhinos to the brim with full DC and characters. They aren't assault vehicles, so you have to stand around for a turn after getting out before you can charge, including if you got shot out of it.

-corbulo with DC is sort of a waste. They have fnp already, so he's just giving them a WS/I boost.

-the ton of rhinos with MSU shooty squads is a decent approach. In terms of competitive play you're being outdone by gladius strike forces by virtue of their superior formation bonuses, but if your scene doesn't run formations then all the better.

-Don't forget that callidus can outflank and come from the enemy deployment edge. It's a nice scare tactic that can get an opponent to deploy units a wee bit closer to your army.

I'd say MSU down those DC units, drop corbulo and probably Seth, and snag some sternguard and maybe a cheap Libby with MOAR rhinos or pods. Also a tac squad using heavy flamer in a rhino isn't bad either considering the rhino-saturation level you've reached.

List 2:

-dual land raider rush eh? Well land raiders are hard countered by haywire, grav, str D, suicide melta, and many other things, so some games will just have you one foot in the grave at the start, but let's assume you're alright with that and move on.

-I don't think the chap needs termie armor. Adding that means the unit can't sweep, which could be very significant if you get up to a tau gunline and multiassault.

-speaking of multiassaulting, vanguard veterans can do that. Putting a priest with them will make them just as stout as DC, albeit without rage. It would be better if we had access to the core marine book VV's that have discounted weapons. I find iron hands VV's with a sanguinary priest to be downright scary. Just something to consider. Nothing wrong with keeping the DC.

-not a fan of the meltas on the land raiders. They're going to be full speed-ing turn 1, and they dont have any rules other than machine spirit to enable firing of multiple weapons, so I find the melta points spent better elsewhere.

-Vindicaire assassin is sadly terrible. Many targets that he wants to hit aren't regularly played, and with just one shot he basically just does .75 wound a turn. It can be good based on where you put it, but it's probably not "150 points" good.

Thanks for the feedback, Ive edited both lists and added a spartan assault tank to the second list, for 3 land raiders.