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This thread is for sharing totally bonkers tactics and army compositions you dreamed up, or actually did.

Here is one I thought up but would never do in real life.

Two wave Stormboy Wing. 1850 pts

CAD
Warlord - Ghazghkul Thraka 225 points - Bought only for his warlord trait (prophet of the waaagh) & special rule prophet of gork and mork
HQ - Big mek (tax) 35pts
Troops - 2 grots (tax) 70pts
Fast Attack 3 x 30 stormboyz, 90 in total (cost around 900 points)

Da Vulcha Skwad
Boss Zagstruk & 60 stormboyz for around 600 pts

Deployment
CAD on the table storm boyz lined up from one end of the table to the next on the edge of deployment zone. Vulcha Skwadron in reserve as required by formation.

First turn - CAD stormboyz fly 12".
Second turn - Ghazzie calls a WAAAGH!. Stormboyz fly, run 2d6 and then charge 2d6 (rerolling 1 die on the charge), for a total move of around 25", under the power of the waaagh whilst also gaining fearless for the turn from ghazzie's rules. SMASH FACE.

Vulcha Skwad turns up out of reserves to deep strike onto the board somewhere along the mid line then on the next turn charges in too.

It's crazy but it just might work.

The craziest I've actually done - my Spore Army at 1kpts.
3x Sporefields, 3x Sporocysts, 5x Meiotic Spores, Mucolid Troop Tax and Old One Eye for a HQ.

Infiltrate all 3 sporefields turn 1 and then deepstrike respawned casualties.

Makes for quite a fun game - in my latest with that army, I lost ~900pts (whilst still having board control) having killed only 1 guardsman. We drew on VP's

Have you heard of the all assassins list? 2k list with pure assassinorum dataslate:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/612016.page

I fielded a Krios, Knight, Dunecrawler, and Tech Priest with the Uncreator Gauntlet in a 750 game against Tau (with a Riptide).
I won.

An idea I do want to try (but ironstriders are too bloody expensive) is, basically, a spot welder, using two Ironstrider Cavalier formations, flanking from either side of the board.
Not sure what I'd use to get my enemy into one spot in the middle.

 Buddingsquaw wrote:
I fielded a Krios, Knight, Dunecrawler, and Tech Priest with the Uncreator Gauntlet in a 750 game against Tau (with a Riptide).
I won.

An idea I do want to try (but ironstriders are too bloody expensive) is, basically, a spot welder, using two Ironstrider Cavalier formations, flanking from either side of the board.
Not sure what I'd use to get my enemy into one spot in the middle.

Just play the Relic mission. Your opponent has to go to the middle to retrieve the relic.

I've got one idea that is kinda out there. For Khorne Daemonkin, basically a wall of hounds. Take a Gorepack with two melta bike squads and 4 maxed out units of Hounds. Take a CAD with two Juggerheralds with the Hatred locus. Possibly one of them has the Blade of Endless Bloodshed for extra Blood Tithe. For troop tax, take two squads of Cultists. Basically fill your deployment zone with dogs, scout them forward, then watch your opponent try to kill them all before they are all over him.

Here's an actual 1850-point list I made that does something like this (albeit with only 76 dogs rather than 80).
Combined Arms Detachment:
HQ:
Herald: Juggernaut, Hatred locus, Blade of Endless Bloodshed
Herald: Juggernaut, Hatred locus
Troops:
Cultists: no upgrades
Cultists: 8x Autogun
Gorepack:
Chaos Bikers: 2x Meltagun, Combimelta, Melta Bombs
Chaos Bikers: 2x Meltagun, Combimelta, Melta Bombs
20 Flesh Hounds
20 Flesh Hounds
18 Flesh Hounds
18 Flesh Hounds

Possibly Daemons could do it better with the Murderhorde formation, but I don't have that book. I also don't have nearly enough dogs or Heralds, so this is academic, at least for me.

 ZergSmasher wrote:

 Buddingsquaw wrote:
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Just play the Relic mission. Your opponent has to go to the middle to retrieve the relic.

I've got one idea that is kinda out there. For Khorne Daemonkin, basically a wall of hounds. Take a Gorepack with two melta bike squads and 4 maxed out units of Hounds. Take a CAD with two Juggerheralds with the Hatred locus. Possibly one of them has the Blade of Endless Bloodshed for extra Blood Tithe. For troop tax, take two squads of Cultists. Basically fill your deployment zone with dogs, scout them forward, then watch your opponent try to kill them all before they are all over him.

Here's an actual 1850-point list I made that does something like this (albeit with only 76 dogs rather than 80).
Combined Arms Detachment:
HQ:
Herald: Juggernaut, Hatred locus, Blade of Endless Bloodshed
Herald: Juggernaut, Hatred locus
Troops:
Cultists: no upgrades
Cultists: 8x Autogun
Gorepack:
Chaos Bikers: 2x Meltagun, Combimelta, Melta Bombs
Chaos Bikers: 2x Meltagun, Combimelta, Melta Bombs
20 Flesh Hounds
20 Flesh Hounds
18 Flesh Hounds
18 Flesh Hounds

Possibly Daemons could do it better with the Murderhorde formation, but I don't have that book. I also don't have nearly enough dogs or Heralds, so this is academic, at least for me.

That actually sounds fun to face. Probably a bit like a Hormagauntlet.
I'm thinking it'd be good against Inquisition, or at least completely screwing over Marines in Rhinos.

Here's another funny list, for 1500pt games:
80 Tech Thralls, of varying loadouts, but all with Revenant Alchemistry, all in 10-man units.
A Lachrimallus Archmagos, so I have a chance to respawn the AdSecs.
And then some Tech priest Auxilia with Lacraeymerta, to give the spooks +1 to their FnP.

Probably don't need to use any Triaros, but I probably would make some compromises for 2 on a long board. They make very good rolling cover.



And interestingly, I've probably met OP in real life.

Three Imperial Knights and about a dozen Skitarii Ironstriders. http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/644459.page

Operation: Make Lelith Great

So Eldrad, Farseer, second Farseer, Baharroth (for Hit and Run and no scatter Deepstrike) all in 2 CAD's and Allied Detachment for Lelith. You throw all that into a unit with Wraithblades for T6 toughness and an invul save.

For your powers you go for:
Santic
Hammerhand
Gate of Infinity
Sanctuary

Runes of Fate
Fortune

Divination
Prescience


As long as you get the Santic powers you have a deep striking (without scatter) a great little deathstar with the potential for 3+ rerollable invuls (2+ on Eldrad) and Lelith Hesperax at S5 with ungodly initiative and an absurd amount of attacks, backed up by great toughness as well (the guard having S9 with rage and Hit and run, Eldrad with a force weapon, Baharroth having S6 AP3 all help too xD)

Against Ravenwing or a fast army you won't do well... but foor marines/Orks/necrons and the like you'll have a whale of a time!

Once a friend of mine built a ridiculous Ld bomb which hit harder than I care to admit.

Contains
Archon - Armour of Misery (-2Ld)
Shadowseer - Mask Of Secrets (-2Ld) + Mirror of Minds
Any formation from Haemonculus Covens for a -1Ld bubble.
Optional: Farseer fishing for Terrify & DOminate (and Psychic Shriek)

Positioning allows for anything to be at -5 Ld. Then hit with MoM to force a max 11 vs min 11, whjich as per MoM will loop until the target dies.

Point, Click, Remove on any unit in the game that has a Ld value.

Mine is simple and one I've pulled off only 3 times in the times I've tried it (I lost count of how many times I've tried) which is simply using a Weirdboy to use Da Jump on a Green Tide. The three times I succeeded resulted in forfeited games almost immediately after :I

Dark Angels Ravenwing Formation can run all Land Speeders.

I think around 20-25 can fit on an 1850 list, with a mix of Assault Cannons, Missile Launchers, etc.

Back when I played GK, I used what I called the Bank Shot. I had a Fortress of Redemption with Inquisitor Karamazov in the Tower's cupola (for LoS). I would use a Valkyrie\Vendetta as the targeting point, since he is allowed to target friendly models without scattering his blasts. The rules at the time said that any blasts\large blasts that landed on fliers automatically missed while at the same time hitting whatever was underneath.

So how did I make it work? I targeted the wings. The flier is automatically missed, but I could still come down like a ton of bricks on whatever was underneath. Behind a Line of Sight blocking piece of terrain? no problem, park the flier on top of it, with a part of the fuselage over the offending model\unit. target the flier, which automatically missed, but still hit what was underneath.

 IHateNids wrote:
Once a friend of mine built a ridiculous Ld bomb which hit harder than I care to admit.

Contains
Archon - Armour of Misery (-2Ld)
Shadowseer - Mask Of Secrets (-2Ld) + Mirror of Minds
Any formation from Haemonculus Covens for a -1Ld bubble.
Optional: Farseer fishing for Terrify & DOminate (and Psychic Shriek)

Positioning allows for anything to be at -5 Ld. Then hit with MoM to force a max 11 vs min 11, whjich as per MoM will loop until the target dies.

Point, Click, Remove on any unit in the game that has a Ld value.

Well...point click remove on any model in the game with a ld value. Since it's a focused witchfire it only goes until a single model is dead.

 IHateNids wrote:
Once a friend of mine built a ridiculous Ld bomb which hit harder than I care to admit.

Contains
Archon - Armour of Misery (-2Ld)
Shadowseer - Mask Of Secrets (-2Ld) + Mirror of Minds
Any formation from Haemonculus Covens for a -1Ld bubble.
Optional: Farseer fishing for Terrify & DOminate (and Psychic Shriek)

Positioning allows for anything to be at -5 Ld. Then hit with MoM to force a max 11 vs min 11, whjich as per MoM will loop until the target dies.

Point, Click, Remove on any unit in the game that has a Ld value.

Death jester can make this hurt even more with his "take a pee your pants check at -2 ld and run in the direction i tell you to".

This thread reminds me of the Ethereal swan dive from one of the earlier Tau codexes.
They had a rule where if the Ethereal died, all of your units had to take a morale test. Fail and they fall back, pass and they get Preferred Enemy for the rest of the game.

There were also rules for jumping off battlements, which had a chance to wound based on how high the model jumped from.

So you deployed the Ethereal on top of a bastion or fortress of redemption, and would start the game by launching him in a majestic dive, face first into the pavement below.
This wouldn't kill him, due to having 2 wounds. So you would drag his crippled body back up to the battlements and throw him off again next turn.

If you were lucky, your army would gain preferred enemy. Or they might just run off the table. Either way it was hilarious.

 IHateNids wrote:
Once a friend of mine built a ridiculous Ld bomb which hit harder than I care to admit.

Contains
Archon - Armour of Misery (-2Ld)
Shadowseer - Mask Of Secrets (-2Ld) + Mirror of Minds
Any formation from Haemonculus Covens for a -1Ld bubble.
Optional: Farseer fishing for Terrify & DOminate (and Psychic Shriek)

Positioning allows for anything to be at -5 Ld. Then hit with MoM to force a max 11 vs min 11, whjich as per MoM will loop until the target dies.

Point, Click, Remove on any unit in the game that has a Ld value.

Huh, lol. How bout we kick this into overdrive. The Crimson slaughter formation would add another -1 Ld for the entire army and another -1 for being within 12" of a unit of kranon's helguard. If you manage to get the right warlord trait, you can subtract yet another point of leadership. For a total of -8 with correct positioning. -9 on any fear tests they would have take.
Also isn't there a an eldar flyer that also causes a bubble of - leadership or something along those lines?

120 tactical marines all combat squaded with missle launchers and melta guns. it was around 31 units? I really like marines and msu. i also dreamed an idea of making csm great again by using two formations:

cult of slaughter:

dark apostle

3x 35 cultists

brethren of the dark covenent

dark apostle

possessed

2x20 chaos space marines with plasmas

tactic: charge

oh nobody's yet mentioned the Cadian Command Squad spam:

The Cadian Battle Group Detachment requires only one "Command" choice and may contain any number of them. This means you may field a battle-forged army of Command Squads that also gain better orders.

185 points for Command Squad in Chimera with four plasmaguns, so 10 in an 1850 list. Maybe mix in a formation of three Vendettas for grav-chute insertion and twin-linked lascannons.


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Also when the Psykana Division formation became a thing, everyone talked about summoning hordes of demons with its harnessing on 2+. This is still a good daft plan.

Roknar wrote:

 IHateNids wrote:
Once a friend of mine built a ridiculous Ld bomb which hit harder than I care to admit.

Contains
Archon - Armour of Misery (-2Ld)
Shadowseer - Mask Of Secrets (-2Ld) + Mirror of Minds
Any formation from Haemonculus Covens for a -1Ld bubble.
Optional: Farseer fishing for Terrify & DOminate (and Psychic Shriek)

Positioning allows for anything to be at -5 Ld. Then hit with MoM to force a max 11 vs min 11, whjich as per MoM will loop until the target dies.

Point, Click, Remove on any unit in the game that has a Ld value.

Huh, lol. How bout we kick this into overdrive. The Crimson slaughter formation would add another -1 Ld for the entire army and another -1 for being within 12" of a unit of kranon's helguard. If you manage to get the right warlord trait, you can subtract yet another point of leadership. For a total of -8 with correct positioning. -9 on any fear tests they would have take.
Also isn't there a an eldar flyer that also causes a bubble of - leadership or something along those lines?

Kick it up even more. Take another Archon with the Deldar, give him the Archangel of Pain.
That forces a -2 (stacks with everything else) Leadership test on all units within its aura and causes a wound per each point of failure per unit.

 Otto Weston wrote:

Roknar wrote:

 IHateNids wrote:
Once a friend of mine built a ridiculous Ld bomb which hit harder than I care to admit.

Contains
Archon - Armour of Misery (-2Ld)
Shadowseer - Mask Of Secrets (-2Ld) + Mirror of Minds
Any formation from Haemonculus Covens for a -1Ld bubble.
Optional: Farseer fishing for Terrify & DOminate (and Psychic Shriek)

Positioning allows for anything to be at -5 Ld. Then hit with MoM to force a max 11 vs min 11, whjich as per MoM will loop until the target dies.

Point, Click, Remove on any unit in the game that has a Ld value.

Huh, lol. How bout we kick this into overdrive. The Crimson slaughter formation would add another -1 Ld for the entire army and another -1 for being within 12" of a unit of kranon's helguard. If you manage to get the right warlord trait, you can subtract yet another point of leadership. For a total of -8 with correct positioning. -9 on any fear tests they would have take.
Also isn't there a an eldar flyer that also causes a bubble of - leadership or something along those lines?

Kick it up even more. Take another Archon with the Deldar, give him the Archangel of Pain.
That forces a -2 (stacks with everything else) Leadership test on all units within its aura and causes a wound per each point of failure per unit.

How does that work again? That's like a one time thing with a large area of effect right?

Roknar wrote:

 Otto Weston wrote:

Roknar wrote:

 IHateNids wrote:
Once a friend of mine built a ridiculous Ld bomb which hit harder than I care to admit.

Contains
Archon - Armour of Misery (-2Ld)
Shadowseer - Mask Of Secrets (-2Ld) + Mirror of Minds
Any formation from Haemonculus Covens for a -1Ld bubble.
Optional: Farseer fishing for Terrify & DOminate (and Psychic Shriek)

Positioning allows for anything to be at -5 Ld. Then hit with MoM to force a max 11 vs min 11, whjich as per MoM will loop until the target dies.

Point, Click, Remove on any unit in the game that has a Ld value.

Huh, lol. How bout we kick this into overdrive. The Crimson slaughter formation would add another -1 Ld for the entire army and another -1 for being within 12" of a unit of kranon's helguard. If you manage to get the right warlord trait, you can subtract yet another point of leadership. For a total of -8 with correct positioning. -9 on any fear tests they would have take.
Also isn't there a an eldar flyer that also causes a bubble of - leadership or something along those lines?

Kick it up even more. Take another Archon with the Deldar, give him the Archangel of Pain.
That forces a -2 (stacks with everything else) Leadership test on all units within its aura and causes a wound per each point of failure per unit.

How does that work again? That's like a one time thing with a large area of effect right?

Yep one use but large aoe, affects everything in the aoe, applies a -2 Leadership and then forces leadership tests. Each point of failure is a wound that ignores armour and cover.

So basically a giant buffed psychic shriek. Nice. Plus at this point we're WELL into apocalypse territory so it would hit a lot and even works against fearless units. Now we jsut need to find something that forces people to use the highest dice in leader ship tests lol.

 Otto Weston wrote:

Roknar wrote:

 IHateNids wrote:
Once a friend of mine built a ridiculous Ld bomb which hit harder than I care to admit.

Contains
Archon - Armour of Misery (-2Ld)
Shadowseer - Mask Of Secrets (-2Ld) + Mirror of Minds
Any formation from Haemonculus Covens for a -1Ld bubble.
Optional: Farseer fishing for Terrify & DOminate (and Psychic Shriek)

Positioning allows for anything to be at -5 Ld. Then hit with MoM to force a max 11 vs min 11, whjich as per MoM will loop until the target dies.

Point, Click, Remove on any unit in the game that has a Ld value.

Huh, lol. How bout we kick this into overdrive. The Crimson slaughter formation would add another -1 Ld for the entire army and another -1 for being within 12" of a unit of kranon's helguard. If you manage to get the right warlord trait, you can subtract yet another point of leadership. For a total of -8 with correct positioning. -9 on any fear tests they would have take.
Also isn't there a an eldar flyer that also causes a bubble of - leadership or something along those lines?

Kick it up even more. Take another Archon with the Deldar, give him the Archangel of Pain.
That forces a -2 (stacks with everything else) Leadership test on all units within its aura and causes a wound per each point of failure per unit.

I was oddly planning doing something similar with my dark eldar list but only pure dark eldar. Something along the lines of archon with armor of misery (-2 LD 6" bubble) + archon with arch angel of pain (-2 LD 9" bubble where you take a LD test and pass or take wounds with no cover or armor in the bubble). I also may add 4 tormentors from raiders with disintegrators base and warriors with them inside and some on archons. Hard to say what'd be the cheapest route but archons normally have the best BS when shooting them.

Roknar wrote:
So basically a giant buffed psychic shriek. Nice. Plus at this point we're WELL into apocalypse territory so it would hit a lot and even works against fearless units. Now we jsut need to find something that forces people to use the highest dice in leader ship tests lol.

Sadly no at least not with tormentors, phantasm or archangel of pain. Basically fearless and ATSKNF units are immune. It caused lots of dark eldar player bitterness. I have the book and have read it enough times to know but i could check again for you. That said vs tau and even eldar such as stupid bikes it can still do ok. Against invisible units bubble abilities like archangel of pain can still work too.

I have no haemonculus covens codex sadly so i will need to check that at some point. Dunno if they have any wargear but there's a possibility they have a negative modifier to enemy leadership with something.

No need to check, I'm hardly in a rush to try any of this lol. Though it would be nice do know when/if I ever to a team battle again. Although that would probably be with eldar rather than their dark cousins. IIRC they can pull some leadership shenanigans too though.

Oddly i may try this myself but it takes so many points (or at least with tormentors and phantasm) that i may be better off doing something else. That said last game i did go against tau with lots of 3+ armor saves and 2+ cover saves and if you charge tau infantry they have a 6" overwatch bubble for the unit you charge. Considering all this it's actually perfect for the armor of misery + archangel of pain combo and may even do ok with tormentors and phantasms. Considering all the eldar and tau players it might actually do ok. That said there's a highly good chance i could do it all for cheaper and still eliminate all these high cover + high armor baddies. Perhaps medusae would help.

1000 pt list
Culexus Assassin x3
Inquisitorial Detachment x5
- Ordo Whatever Inquisitor
- Inquisitorial Henchmen Warband x3
- Acolyte x2
- Psyker

Inquisitorial Detachments in the center.
Assassins arrayed around them.
20 warp charges x 3 Culexus = 60 Animus Speculum shots/turn.

It shouldn't work... It couldn't work...

 Carlson793 wrote:
1000 pt list
Culexus Assassin x3
Inquisitorial Detachment x5
- Ordo Whatever Inquisitor
- Inquisitorial Henchmen Warband x3
- Acolyte x2
- Psyker

Inquisitorial Detachments in the center.
Assassins arrayed around them.
20 warp charges x 3 Culexus = 60 Animus Speculum shots/turn.

It shouldn't work... It couldn't work...

Now this I like

 snykyninja wrote:

 Carlson793 wrote:
1000 pt list
Culexus Assassin x3
Inquisitorial Detachment x5
- Ordo Whatever Inquisitor
- Inquisitorial Henchmen Warband x3
- Acolyte x2
- Psyker

Inquisitorial Detachments in the center.
Assassins arrayed around them.
20 warp charges x 3 Culexus = 60 Animus Speculum shots/turn.

It shouldn't work... It couldn't work...

Now this I like

I'm subtley terrified yet morbidly curious.

I think I have to try this.

 flamingkillamajig wrote:

 Otto Weston wrote:

Roknar wrote:

 IHateNids wrote:
Once a friend of mine built a ridiculous Ld bomb which hit harder than I care to admit.

Contains
Archon - Armour of Misery (-2Ld)
Shadowseer - Mask Of Secrets (-2Ld) + Mirror of Minds
Any formation from Haemonculus Covens for a -1Ld bubble.
Optional: Farseer fishing for Terrify & DOminate (and Psychic Shriek)

Positioning allows for anything to be at -5 Ld. Then hit with MoM to force a max 11 vs min 11, whjich as per MoM will loop until the target dies.

Point, Click, Remove on any unit in the game that has a Ld value.

Huh, lol. How bout we kick this into overdrive. The Crimson slaughter formation would add another -1 Ld for the entire army and another -1 for being within 12" of a unit of kranon's helguard. If you manage to get the right warlord trait, you can subtract yet another point of leadership. For a total of -8 with correct positioning. -9 on any fear tests they would have take.
Also isn't there a an eldar flyer that also causes a bubble of - leadership or something along those lines?

Kick it up even more. Take another Archon with the Deldar, give him the Archangel of Pain.
That forces a -2 (stacks with everything else) Leadership test on all units within its aura and causes a wound per each point of failure per unit.

I was oddly planning doing something similar with my dark eldar list but only pure dark eldar. Something along the lines of archon with armor of misery (-2 LD 6" bubble) + archon with arch angel of pain (-2 LD 9" bubble where you take a LD test and pass or take wounds with no cover or armor in the bubble). I also may add 4 tormentors from raiders with disintegrators base and warriors with them inside and some on archons. Hard to say what'd be the cheapest route but archons normally have the best BS when shooting them.

Roknar wrote:
So basically a giant buffed psychic shriek. Nice. Plus at this point we're WELL into apocalypse territory so it would hit a lot and even works against fearless units. Now we jsut need to find something that forces people to use the highest dice in leader ship tests lol.

Sadly no at least not with tormentors, phantasm or archangel of pain. Basically fearless and ATSKNF units are immune. It caused lots of dark eldar player bitterness. I have the book and have read it enough times to know but i could check again for you. That said vs tau and even eldar such as stupid bikes it can still do ok. Against invisible units bubble abilities like archangel of pain can still work too.

I have no haemonculus covens codex sadly so i will need to check that at some point. Dunno if they have any wargear but there's a possibility they have a negative modifier to enemy leadership with something.

Haha, funny, I've done the same with my Dark Eldar. Fear bombing ftw.

Archon + Misery + Phantasm + WWP
Archon + Archangel + Phantasm

Full Kabalite Squad + Sybarite w/ Phantasm + Blaster

Deepstrike the full unit EXACTLY where you need it, fear bomb with Archangel and then mop up with Phantasms.

 Otto Weston wrote:

 flamingkillamajig wrote:

 Otto Weston wrote:

Roknar wrote:

 IHateNids wrote:
Once a friend of mine built a ridiculous Ld bomb which hit harder than I care to admit.

Contains
Archon - Armour of Misery (-2Ld)
Shadowseer - Mask Of Secrets (-2Ld) + Mirror of Minds
Any formation from Haemonculus Covens for a -1Ld bubble.
Optional: Farseer fishing for Terrify & DOminate (and Psychic Shriek)

Positioning allows for anything to be at -5 Ld. Then hit with MoM to force a max 11 vs min 11, whjich as per MoM will loop until the target dies.

Point, Click, Remove on any unit in the game that has a Ld value.

Huh, lol. How bout we kick this into overdrive. The Crimson slaughter formation would add another -1 Ld for the entire army and another -1 for being within 12" of a unit of kranon's helguard. If you manage to get the right warlord trait, you can subtract yet another point of leadership. For a total of -8 with correct positioning. -9 on any fear tests they would have take.
Also isn't there a an eldar flyer that also causes a bubble of - leadership or something along those lines?

Kick it up even more. Take another Archon with the Deldar, give him the Archangel of Pain.
That forces a -2 (stacks with everything else) Leadership test on all units within its aura and causes a wound per each point of failure per unit.

I was oddly planning doing something similar with my dark eldar list but only pure dark eldar. Something along the lines of archon with armor of misery (-2 LD 6" bubble) + archon with arch angel of pain (-2 LD 9" bubble where you take a LD test and pass or take wounds with no cover or armor in the bubble). I also may add 4 tormentors from raiders with disintegrators base and warriors with them inside and some on archons. Hard to say what'd be the cheapest route but archons normally have the best BS when shooting them.

Roknar wrote:
So basically a giant buffed psychic shriek. Nice. Plus at this point we're WELL into apocalypse territory so it would hit a lot and even works against fearless units. Now we jsut need to find something that forces people to use the highest dice in leader ship tests lol.

Sadly no at least not with tormentors, phantasm or archangel of pain. Basically fearless and ATSKNF units are immune. It caused lots of dark eldar player bitterness. I have the book and have read it enough times to know but i could check again for you. That said vs tau and even eldar such as stupid bikes it can still do ok. Against invisible units bubble abilities like archangel of pain can still work too.

I have no haemonculus covens codex sadly so i will need to check that at some point. Dunno if they have any wargear but there's a possibility they have a negative modifier to enemy leadership with something.

Haha, funny, I've done the same with my Dark Eldar. Fear bombing ftw.

Archon + Misery + Phantasm + WWP
Archon + Archangel + Phantasm

Full Kabalite Squad + Sybarite w/ Phantasm + Blaster

Deepstrike the full unit EXACTLY where you need it, fear bomb with Archangel and then mop up with Phantasms.

I think nurgle daemons have a net leadership subtraction relic, but you'd be playing with fire having a daemon on your side. :-D