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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/15 02:24:43
Subject: Changes in the new 30k Age of Darkness army list
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Dakka Veteran
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Got this from a friend...
Assault Squad
* -75 points.
Breachers
* -25 points.
Tactical Support Squad
* can take additional combat blades for 2 points.
Legion Reconnaissance Squad
* -25 points.
Dreadnought Drop Pod
* +35 points.
Seeker Squad
* -20 points.
Anvillus Pattern Dreadclaw Drop Pod
* +15 points.
* has Inertial Guidance System listed in box-out, but not under special rules column. ??
* can transport Legion Dreadnought, Legion Mortis Dreadnought, Contemptor Dreadnought, Contemptor-Mortis Dreadnought or Contemptor-Cortus Dreadnought.
Landspeeder Squadron
* -10 points.
* can take 2 HKMs for 5 points each like the Javelin.
Javelin Attack Speeder Squadron
* -20 points.
* has Strafing Run special rule.
* has "Grav Backwash" special rule. Means enemies have a -2 to hit it in Assault unless it is Immobilised.
Primus Medicae
* +10 points.
* can't take power fist, chainfist, boarding shield or paired lightning claws.
Chaplain
* causes Fear.
Command Squad
* -25 points.
Veteran Squad
* -25 points.
* additional models -3 points.
* any model can swap bolter for combi-weapon for +10 points.
* Veteran Tactics are very different!
- Resolve Stubborn
- Weaponmasters +1 Weapon Skill
- Machine Killers +1 on armour penetration rolls
- Marksmen Outflank AND Sniper
- Xenobane re-roll To Wound against Monstrous & Gargantuan Creatures.
Predator Strike Armour Squadron
* Executioner plasma destroyer is +20 points on old price.
* heavy conversion beamer is -5 points.
* if you take 3, one of them can be a Squadron Command Tank for +35 points:
- if unit is in coherency, all ignore Crew Shaken on a 4+.
- if they all shoot at a single target within 24", they gain Tank Hunter and Monster Hunter.
Land Raider Battle Squadron
* Phobos is -25 points.
* Proteus is -20 points.
* Achilles has frag & shatter shells, and can purchase the other new types (including phosphex if Siege Breaker is present).
* Proteus can take a hull-mounted twin-linked lascannon!
* if you take 3, one of them can be a Squadron Command Tank (see Predator notes).
Achilles-Alpha Land Raider
* has frag & shatter shells, and can purchase the other new types (including phosphex if Siege Breaker is present).
Legion Artillery Tank Squadron
* still 0-1
* if you take 3, one of them can be a Squadron Command Tank (see Predator notes).
Vindicator Siege Tank Squadron
* if you take 3, one of them can be a Squadron Command Tank (see Predator notes).
Spartan Assault Tank
* +10 points.
* flare shield +20 points over old cost.
Sicaran Battle Tank
* +30 points.
Kharybdis Assault Claw
* -30 points.
Deredeo Pattern Dreadnought
* new weapon! May swap autocannons for a single Arachnus pattern heavy lascannon battery for +50 points. 48" range, AP2, Heavy 2, Exoshock (if you score a Penetrating hit, on a 4+ you score another Penetrating hit with no cover save).
Jetbike Sky Slayer Support Squadron
* +30 points on a normal Jetbike squad.
- exactly like we theorised. All have multi-meltas and all can swap for plasma cannons/Volkite culverins.
BA dual hand flamer moritats have been gotten rid of, chain fire rules have had another sentence added to them saying that weapons which don't roll to hit can't use chain fire.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/15 02:34:49
Subject: Changes in the new 30k Age of Darkness army list
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Pragmatic Primus Commanding Cult Forces
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Garro from the Heresy 30K forum is also compiling a list.
Assault squads are big winners. Not only do they get the 75 pt cut, additional bodies are -2 each. And this is big -- especially for a WE player like me -- apothecaries can take jump packs (and bikes, great for WS and DA players)! Their unit restrictions are now mostly lifted too.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/15 02:40:45
Subject: Re:Changes in the new 30k Age of Darkness army list
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Dakka Veteran
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Yea according to someone Breachers are cheaper in squads of ten, but +25 points for a full twenty man squad. At least recon marines are cheaper.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/15 03:40:46
Subject: Changes in the new 30k Age of Darkness army list
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Regular Dakkanaut
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No power fist on primus medicae anymore......Boo means I have to rip the arm off mine and put on a new arm prolly destroying the shoulder pad as result.......
Glad I only did that for 1 of my legion forces. Hate when they take away options on a character as it can really ruin a model.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/15 03:44:16
Subject: Changes in the new 30k Age of Darkness army list
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Glorious Lord of Chaos
The burning pits of Hades, also known as Sweden in summer
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chaos45 wrote:No power fist on primus medicae anymore......Boo means I have to rip the arm off mine and put on a new arm prolly destroying the shoulder pad as result.......
Glad I only did that for 1 of my legion forces. Hate when they take away options on a character as it can really ruin a model.
Hear, hear. My chainfist PM is very sad right now.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/15 03:48:43
Subject: Changes in the new 30k Age of Darkness army list
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Pragmatic Primus Commanding Cult Forces
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My WE chainaxes are happy...they're now +1 S, apparently.
From the outhouse to the penthouse, baby!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/15 03:49:40
Subject: Changes in the new 30k Age of Darkness army list
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Never Forget Isstvan!
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Ugh I hate the drop pod point increase, its already 65 points per pod why change it to 100
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/15 03:57:22
Subject: Changes in the new 30k Age of Darkness army list
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Pragmatic Primus Commanding Cult Forces
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Less about the pod itself than what you can put in it. *cough* Leviathan *cough*
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/15 03:59:56
Subject: Changes in the new 30k Age of Darkness army list
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Never Forget Isstvan!
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gorgon wrote:Less about the pod itself than what you can put in it. *cough* Leviathan *cough*
Shhh I want a cheap transport for my murderous washing machine
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/15 04:00:06
Subject: Changes in the new 30k Age of Darkness army list
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Because when the eldar release they will have to be supreme lolz.....cant have shielded leviathons at an already high point cost having a chance....
Dont really feel some of the point increases were warranted esp when you think of the other 30k army books already printed and the future ones most likely coming down the road.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/15 04:37:17
Subject: Changes in the new 30k Age of Darkness army list
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Did Fulgrim Just Behead Ferrus?
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Some of the point changes seem strange. The Javelin going down in points, but gaining extra abilities?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/15 04:38:56
Subject: Changes in the new 30k Age of Darkness army list
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Never Forget Isstvan!
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Tannhauser42 wrote:Some of the point changes seem strange. The Javelin going down in points, but gaining extra abilities?
Yeah it is making me think there is a chance this is fake or partially wrong.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/15 05:33:00
Subject: Changes in the new 30k Age of Darkness army list
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[DCM]
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Already being discussed here:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/4680/660641.page#8776194
Please continue the discussion on this topic there - thanks!
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