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I started new with 40k, and bought one of these start collecting packs of imperial guard. The thing is, i saw tutorials on how to paint them, but all basing tutorials are usually pretty bad because they either dont tell you what kind of material they used or what kind of paint they used. I was thinking about making a either snow themed base or a base like on the pictures from gw cadian shocktrooper pictures.
Any help would be nice.
   
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Nottingham

There are lots of ways. You can use PVA glue to glue sand to the base for texture, then paint it. After that either flock or grass tufts to simulate grass, a snow powder etc. You can get textured paint and put that on the base, then put a wash over it and drybrush for shade and highlights. They are the two best ways to start out, from there you can start adding bits for detail, buying scenic bases etc.

Have a look at my P&M blog - currently working on Sons of Horus

Have a look at my 3d Printed Mierce Miniatures

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 JamesY wrote:
There are lots of ways. You can use PVA glue to glue sand to the base for texture, then paint it. After that either flock or grass tufts to simulate grass, a snow powder etc. You can get textured paint and put that on the base, then put a wash over it and drybrush for shade and highlights. They are the two best ways to start out, from there you can start adding bits for detail, buying scenic bases etc.

But what kind of sand should i use? Just go to the beach and take something with me? :S
   
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 LosTiger wrote:
But what kind of sand should i use? Just go to the beach and take something with me? :S


You could do that, or you could pay someone $50 per base to go to the same beach, get some sand, and sell it to you as "scenery for miniatures".

In general you should avoid "miniatures" products for basing, most of it is just rebranded model railroad stuff with a significant markup. Woodland Scenics makes a bunch of stuff, including the snow you were thinking about.

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 LosTiger wrote:
 JamesY wrote:
There are lots of ways. You can use PVA glue to glue sand to the base for texture, then paint it. After that either flock or grass tufts to simulate grass, a snow powder etc. You can get textured paint and put that on the base, then put a wash over it and drybrush for shade and highlights. They are the two best ways to start out, from there you can start adding bits for detail, buying scenic bases etc.

But what kind of sand should i use? Just go to the beach and take something with me? :S

Go to a local pet store and buy aquarium sand. I like the mixed sand (fine and rough sand mixed). The bag probably cost around 5-10 € and will last you a lifetime.
   
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Also any sand for gerbils, reptiles etc is fine.

I buy mine off spamazon and you get a big ol bag that you'll likely never run out of for next to nothing.

Easiest way I've found to texture bases on a budget is to mix sand with brown acrylic poster paint like you can get anywhere for dirt cheap and paint it on, then paint over with PVA.
Insta texture!

   
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 Peregrine wrote:
 LosTiger wrote:
But what kind of sand should i use? Just go to the beach and take something with me? :S


You could do that, or you could pay someone $50 per base to go to the same beach, get some sand, and sell it to you as "scenery for miniatures".

In general you should avoid "miniatures" products for basing, most of it is just rebranded model railroad stuff with a significant markup. Woodland Scenics makes a bunch of stuff, including the snow you were thinking about.

Ah okay lol, didnt know normal sand would work
   
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 LosTiger wrote:
The thing is, i saw tutorials on how to paint them, but all basing tutorials are usually pretty bad because they either dont tell you what kind of material they used or what kind of paint they used...
Any help would be nice.
For the sake of simplicity, the first thing I'd recommend to a new hobbyist is the GW Texture line. Check it out HERE: https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/Blog/Textured_Paints.pdf

Other options include Sand, Gravel, Cork Tiling, PVA, etc. Basing allows you the opportunity to create some great narrative, so go with something that fits with the concept of your new army. And of course, resin bases are a fantastic option as well (ie. Secret Weapon Miniatures).

That being said, I'd highly recommend the GW Texture products.

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Nottingham

I use normal sand. My step father is a builder so I just help myself whenever I need more. The only thing you need to do with natural sand is to dry it out. So by all means get it from the beach, then put it in a baking tray and stick it in the oven for an hour to remove the moisture.

Have a look at my P&M blog - currently working on Sons of Horus

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Full first company Crimson Fists
Zone Mortalis (unfinished)
Classic high elf bloodbowl team 
   
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Thanks! I went to the pet store and bought some. Which glue do you usually use for this?
   
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PVA.

   
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If you're still interested in snow, I find a good way is Woodland Scenics Soft Flake Snow mixed with water effects. Mix it in a separate cup and then smoosh it on to your bases.

This is after you've sanded and painted the ground dirt coloured.

That's how I did the snow on this guy...
http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/606947-dk3.html

GW also just released a new snow product, the preview pictures looked good so I'm going to pick some up tomorrow and see how it comes out.
   
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I just grabbed a bag of kiln dried sand for £3, then a bag of sharp sand for another £3.
Mixed they give a nice variation.

Oh, and a total of 50KG of basing sand lol.

   
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This video isn't bad on general basing..

https://youtu.be/U5Dhb32EGhI

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 LosTiger wrote:
Thanks! I went to the pet store and bought some. Which glue do you usually use for this?

Like others said: PVA. Weißer Bastelkleber/-leim in German The one from Meyco is pretty good.
   
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Here's a blog post I did a while back showing how I do my miniatures --- it explains how I base mine, which is one common method.

http://myminiaturemischief.blogspot.com/2016/06/step-by-step-spiders.html

I use a small contain with a mix of three types of ballast (ie. model railroad sand/pebbles). Available for relatively cheap in large bags.
   
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Depends on how large the army will be in my opinion. For some I just go with resin infantry bases then replicate the style I picked with cork and other basing stuff for larger bases; because I feel the cork might break away a bit too much on the smaller and because I'd rather not pay $20-25 for resin flyer bases.

For some horde I'd go with a more basic idea using either texture paint or sand painted to look like mud then some grass tufts here and there or some flock. Looks better en masse than trying to really intricate looking bases.

   
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How you do the bases is purely up to your style.

For the "regular" textured base you could go for the sand option (probably cheapest as well...), glue that on using PVA, then paint and drybrush, add flock or static grass or whatever and voila!
Works for me.
I do however prefer a slightly coarser sand so to make a more distinct drybrush finish to the bases.
I use the ballast gravel available for miniature train models, grains just around 1mm across. Woodland Scenics (WS) also has several other sizes available, so it's really up to what finish you want. GW has almost the same stuff... but they charge an arm and a leg for small quantities...

Personally I go for WS as they offer a wider range and larger quantities. Usually buy one and you're set for a few years or basing

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Ty guys! Ill try to make some snow bases since i think it fits very well to the imperial guard. I saw some guides on how to do them and i hope if i have the time they end up good!
   
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North Dallas, TX

 LosTiger wrote:
Ty guys! Ill try to make some snow bases since i think it fits very well to the imperial guard. I saw some guides on how to do them and i hope if i have the time they end up good!
Great, try some new techniques and have fun with it!

Actively searching for Hobbyists and Wargamers in the N. Dallas area!

www.PulseMiniatures.wordpress.com 
   
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 LosTiger wrote:
Ty guys! Ill try to make some snow bases since i think it fits very well to the imperial guard. I saw some guides on how to do them and i hope if i have the time they end up good!
I posted a review of GW's new snow product and compared it to a couple of other options a few days back...

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/705634.page

One tricky thing with snow, it's really hard to convey in pictures how it will look in the flesh. I went through heaps of tutorials thinking "that's how I want it to look!" and then when I actually do it on my own models not liking the results.
   
 
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