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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/05 09:14:50
Subject: Modeling Cawl on a larger base: YMDC
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Cog in the Machine
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I'm really enjoying working on Cawl and assembling him. However now I've come to the point of asking an important question: What does Dakka think about basing him? For perspective and for those of you who have not seen him yet, he comes on the large oval base. But I'd like to put him on one of the very large round bases, specifically to really pimp out his base and get it looking awesome.
By the round base, I'm referring to the standard large walker base (the same one that goes with the Onager). By the oval base, I'm referring to the one that comes with Cawl, which is the same one that comes with the Dragoon.
I can't really get it to look the way I want it to using the base he comes with (he takes up a HUGE amount of space on the base he comes with, leaving me almost nothing to work with) but he fits very comfortably on the larger base.
I do not want to make a separate detachable base to put him on: it's going to be either put him on the larger round base or put him on the oval base.
The FAQ states that the player can base accordingly in a manner that makes sense or is logical. There's a lot of wiggle room in there. I'd like to run Cawl in both casual and competitive/minor tournament games.
Post-Note: I'm not trying to do this for advantage. If that is a relevant reason to discard this idea, that's fine. I can put up with a mediocre looking base if it means being able to play him in tournaments. I'll just be kinda sad about it, because this is an opportunity to make Cawl into an amazing showcase model.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/05 09:42:54
Subject: Modeling Cawl on a larger base: YMDC
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Scarred Ultramarine Tyrannic War Veteran
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The FAQ is actually pretty explicit:
" The rules assume that models are mounted on the base they are supplied with, but it’s entirely fine to mount them on whichever base you think is appropriate."
Do you think it's appropriate? Yes? Then the FAQ allows you to use it.
So far as tournaments etc. go you'll simply have to cross that bridge when you get to it; any restrictions on or other issues regarding base sizes will be a matter for that tournament. The rules per the FAQ are with you, however.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/05 10:19:35
Subject: Re:Modeling Cawl on a larger base: YMDC
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A larger base should be no problem rule-wise as you and Mr. Shine already stated, since it's permissible and has both advantages and disadvantages.
I happen to have both Cawl and an Onager base at hand, so I put the two together for a visual:
The Onager base is a little large, but could be ok if you pimp it out.
What you could also do, is have the original base slot into the scenic bigger base or stick Cawl onto either base with a magnet link.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/05 17:38:12
Subject: Re:Modeling Cawl on a larger base: YMDC
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Ship's Officer
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As Mr Shine said, the rules support any basing, but it may raise some eyebrows in a tournament setting.
Personally, I think the Onager base is pretty big for a non- MC infantry character (very bulky, though he may be), even if he does have T6 and 5 wounds.
At the end of the day it's your call. The FAQ has your back and the "rule of cool" will be solid ammunition against any dissenters.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/06 14:05:15
Subject: Modeling Cawl on a larger base: YMDC
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Prescient Cryptek of Eternity
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You could always just use magnets and swap out the bases depending on what your opponent/tournament organizer thinks.
I'd have no problem with the larger base in a casual game, but I do generally expect people to use the 'official' base sizes in competitive, organized play.
Going from 25mm to 32mm is a small increase. Going from that oval base to a 120mm round base is a pretty large increase. The larger the increase, the more resistance you're likely to experience. Space Marine Chapter Master on a 40mm base (normally 32mm)? Fine. That's a small increase. Space Marine Chapter Master on a 60mm base? Hmmm... if it's cool looking. Same Chapter Master on a 120mm base? No. Just no. That's silly.
I think it would depend on how you model the base. Cawl might look a little silly on a base that big.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/06 14:13:42
Subject: Modeling Cawl on a larger base: YMDC
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[DCM]
Chief Deputy Sub Assistant Trainee Squig Handling Intern
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Be careful here.
In the general run of things, as long as your base isn't smaller, there's little you gain.
However, Cawl may be a general exception because of his unique Canticles - which can affect any friendly mode or unit with 12". Upping his base size could be seen as modelling for advantage, despite doing it purely for aesthetics.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/07 06:24:34
Subject: Modeling Cawl on a larger base: YMDC
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Excellent point Grotsnik!
With the difference between oval and round base making adjusting the measurement difficult, I'd not use the bigger base, unless the original base is set into it - like the FW Primarch playing vase into the scenic base - or the outline is visible to measure from.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/07 15:56:32
Subject: Modeling Cawl on a larger base: YMDC
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Secretive Dark Angels Veteran
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why don't you get a base like magnus is on? Its an 80 mm round I think.
Its basically the same as the dragoon base but round and might give you more options.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/07 16:58:33
Subject: Modeling Cawl on a larger base: YMDC
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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Yeah, that base is ludicrously big for a model with a number of aura abilities. Find a way to magnetize him, possibly by magnetizing a terrain feature that'd be common to both bases. What's your idea for using the Onager base, anyway?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/20 00:58:19
Subject: Re:Modeling Cawl on a larger base: YMDC
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Cog in the Machine
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Hey guys, I decided to ultimately put him on the base he came with. It's not as cool but I don't want to deal with rules lawyers and WAAC players giving me trouble over the added perimeter of a larger base.
I had made a custom archway with some building terrain that does not block line of sight using bits from age of sigmar and old warhammer fantasy. It was really looking cool.
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