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Pretty sure we all like our SciFi, and I want to discuss episodes of shows which you feel are the genre at it's very finest - they could be game changers for the genre, or simply stand-out episodes of a given series, maybe something in between.
I'll kick off with a couple of Star Trek episodes.
1. TNG - Chain of Command.
Not far off a two man stage play, and my doesn't Sir Patrick get to show off his full acting chops. The plot is solid. The acting is well above par. The social commentary, and Picard's impressive resistance (especially egg scene) has to put it right up there with the very best SciFi there's ever been.
2. DS9 - In the Pale Moonlight.
The one where the Romulans finally pick a side. It's so ridiculously different in tone to what we expect from Star Trek, yet it fits. All of it. Garak gets yet another chance to shine - and Sisko's complicity in the plot speaks volumes about how desperate things had gotten. Sublime stuff!
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Leaving aside the obvious and iconic ones for the moment (a good portion of which probably involved Darth Vader), one that stands out is from the last series of Doctor Who. Specifically, the episode Heaven Sent which is remarkable for featuring a total of one character.
Peter Capaldi as The Doctor gives one of the most fantastic sci-fi TV performances I've ever seen, handling 45 minutes of utterly gripping script in a way very, very few actors could. And the finale, when he realises he's been trapped in the same place, dying and being brought back hundreds, thousands, millions of times, each time figuring out the truth in his last moments, it's just glorious.
Spoiler:
Another episode that stands out would be Midnight back in series 4. Made with basically no money, one real set and a cast of about 8, it's a masterclass in how sometimes, a bunch of people in a room talking to each other can be the scariest, tensest thing imaginable.
A couple of my favorites:
Star Trek: The Original Series
Episode: Let That Be Your Last Battlefield
Great way to parallel the racism that was going on in the 1960's and how utterly stupid racism is. The episode might seem way too preachy to some, but in light of recent events we could probably use its message.
Star Trek: The Next Generation
Episode: Measure of a Man
Great episode in that they deal with the sticky issue of whether or not an artificial sentient machine has rights or not. As our computers get smarter and smarter, we may find ourselves dealing with the same issues from this episode.
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If we fail to anticipate the unforeseen or expect the unexpected in a universe of infinite possibilities, we may find ourselves at the mercy of anyone or anything that cannot be programmed, categorized or easily referenced.
- Fox Mulder
STOS:
*Squire of Gothos-
*Mirror Mirror-alter ego's galor
*The Trouble with Tribbles-just fun
*Balance of Terror-duty, racism, and Romulans Oh My.
*Doomsday Machine
*Amok Time
BSG:
*Pilot miniseries.
I will think of B5, Firefly, and of course Quark in Space later. but I especially Sky Full of Stars:
Sinclair: We never had a chance. You say we could have won, but you weren't there, you didn't see them! When I looked at those ships, I…I didn't just see my death — I saw the death of the whole damn human race!
Knight Two: Then why did they surrender?!
Sinclair: I don't know! Maybe the universe blinked. Maybe God changed His mind. All I know is that we got a second chance!
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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Very much agree on the original BSG mini series. I just watched it for the first time this past summer and I was shocked how much of an impression it made on me.
I really enjoyed the Gaeta/Zarek rebellion in the updated BSG.
Space: Above and Beyond. Especially the ending of the first dual part episode. You really can't imagine how revultionary all that now very obviously CGI was when you see it now.
Guardians of the Galaxy. All of it. Soundtrack, comedy, redemption, dickitude, redemption while retaining dickitude, exploration, green chicks, Quill's desire to explore said green chicks, quick reflexes, genius level rodents, and trees that poop lightning bugs.
Did I miss anything?
Reality is a nice place to visit, but I'd hate to live there.
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Farscape: Basically the entire show - seriously, I've watched them all, but Farscape is by far the best Scifi show I've ever seen- but especially awesome are the two-parter Infinite Possibilities and the three-parter We're So Screwed. In one, the main character dies, in the other, they pull off an insane gambit involving a nuke connected to his heartbeat.
Also, Claudia Black.
Stargate was also of surprisingly high quality, and not afraid to poke fun at itself.
"Now, we die heroically having saved the day."
"That's a [i]bad plan[/]"
A few years ago I was watching 2001: A Space Odyssey for the first time. Half watching it, because I was painting tyranids, but the moment when...
Spoiler:
...the two guys went into the airlock and started talking about whether to shut down HAL, while HAL could see their lips moving, grabbed my attention and I was transfixed from that moment on. Chilling.
Now I think of it sci-fi movies tend to have great moments and it would take forever to reel them all off. Maybe just because it's my favourite movie genre. Blade Runner, Ex-Machina, Alien, Moon, The Thing, Interstellar, Star Wars, The Martian... so much to choose from. I'll leave my original pick for now though
Paradigm wrote: Leaving aside the obvious and iconic ones for the moment (a good portion of which probably involved Darth Vader), one that stands out is from the last series of Doctor Who. Specifically, the episode Heaven Sent which is remarkable for featuring a total of one character.
Peter Capaldi as The Doctor gives one of the most fantastic sci-fi TV performances I've ever seen, handling 45 minutes of utterly gripping script in a way very, very few actors could. And the finale, when he realises he's been trapped in the same place, dying and being brought back hundreds, thousands, millions of times, each time figuring out the truth in his last moments, it's just glorious.
Another episode that stands out would be Midnight back in series 4. Made with basically no money, one real set and a cast of about 8, it's a masterclass in how sometimes, a bunch of people in a room talking to each other can be the scariest, tensest thing imaginable.
Hmm... good picks. I haven't watched Doctor Who for a few series now but the one episode I randomly watched was the Capaldi one you're talking about. It was pretty good!
You forgot 33 (it sets the tone for the series) and Exodus (part 2) (the atmospheric entry part was the cherry on top of a really good episode).
Yeah, that moment is Exodus is awesome. The miniseries I thought was actually weaker than most of what came after it. I was almost ready to give up on the series after watching that, but fortunately 33 was next and that convinced me to stick with it though.
From BSG though, I think the final episode of series 3 deserves a mention... 'there's too much confusion'. Fantastic series finale only slightly let down by not using the 'proper' version of All Along The Watchtower.
Galactica re-entry scene (combat hotzone drop) https://youtu.be/JdkCpnGMyGw SG-1: Golf through stargate. "Window of opportunity". https://youtu.be/ZKzdQq0qOQs Farscape: Avenging angel, animated looney tunes style farscape (although the turnabout on SG-1 where they made SG-1 into the moya crew also rates highly). https://youtu.be/AwrmZAS-u4Y
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I'm OVER 50 (and so far over everyone's BS, too).
Old enough to know better, young enough to not give a ****.
That is not dead which can eternal lie ...
... and yet, with strange aeons, even death may die.
Farscape was too campy for me to consider any of it to be good science fiction, although there were a few episodes with the duplicate Crichton storyline that got somewhat deep and interesting.
Fringe, on the other hand, had an amazing episode called White Tulip that is easily my favorite of the series. Sigh... the feels.
Although they're not truly science fiction, the Marvel super-hero shows on Netflix have not disappointed, the first season of Daredevil still being the best written show I've seen in a very long time.
Breotan wrote: Farscape was too campy for me to consider any of it to be good science fiction, although there were a few episodes with the duplicate Crichton storyline that got somewhat deep and interesting.
Loved me some Farscape, Scorpius was the real interesting "deep" character on the show, not Chrichton or Aeryn. Wayne Pygram as Scorpius was sublime. He was an amazing character.
Was just rewatching some Babylon 5, and there are just too many moments in that show. Given the paltry budget it had, they had some amazing actors and stories in there (G'kar and Londo, Garibaldi's arc, etc), and the continuity was...beautifully perfect. Almost every little action or event was referenced later, everything flowing smoothly into the seamless whole of the story. "In the Beginning" though, covering the Earth Minbari war, and the first few episodes where they gradually introduce the Shadows and fit them ever so gently into everyone's existing storyline, were particularly excellent moments.
IRON WITHIN, IRON WITHOUT.
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Breotan wrote: Farscape was too campy for me to consider any of it to be good science fiction, although there were a few episodes with the duplicate Crichton storyline that got somewhat deep and interesting.
I am biased, I spent some time on that show as one of the unrecognised peons in the 'shop. Still have a lot of friends from those days, who've gone on to greater things. One of them has the doormat from the studio ("Wipe your frelling feet") at his house.
I'm OVER 50 (and so far over everyone's BS, too).
Old enough to know better, young enough to not give a ****.
That is not dead which can eternal lie ...
... and yet, with strange aeons, even death may die.
Maybe I'm odd, but I miss Christmas Memorial Day and Scifi Santa. A whole weekend of cheesy, bad, and actually kind of good monster flicks. I don't think they do it anymore.
LordofHats wrote: Maybe I'm odd, but I miss Christmas Memorial Day and Scifi Santa. A whole weekend of cheesy, bad, and actually kind of good monster flicks. I don't think they do it anymore.
This is honestly one of my favorite moments from the whole series XD
Mine too! Glad to see there are some Stargate fans around here!
I also loved the episode with Dom DeLuise. So funny!
My armies (re-counted and updated on 11/7/24, including modeled wargear options):
Dark Angels: ~16000 Astra Militarum: ~1200 | Imperial Knights: ~2300 | Leagues of Votann: ~1300 | Tyranids: ~3400 | Stormcast Eternals: ~5000 | Kruleboyz: ~3500 | Lumineth Realm-Lords: ~700
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DS9's In the Pale Moonlight is a really great episode - clever and dark - love it. Many great episodes - Tribbles!! Quark and the Klingons
Babylon 5 - the show has its ups and downs but really enjoyed the politics and some of the races - Shadows and Centauri
Stargate - Excellent Drama AND humour - great villians, brilliant interplay between the cast - joy to watch for the most part - Playing golf through the Stargate and Wormhole Extreme!!
BSG - the new series - building on all the best of previous Sci-if shows to make a adult, thoughtufl show full of great characters
Enterprise - In a Mirror Darkly - stunning two part - right from the get go - oh and Empress Hoshi - hell yeah.
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"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001
Babylon 5 has some good moments. Everyone mentions "If you value your lives, be somewhere else" or " I am death incarnate, and the last living thing that you will ever see. God sent me.", but I like the scene where Londo is finally in charge on Centauri Prime and has Mr Morden brought before him and orders the Shadows off the planet; "what're you going to do, Mollari, huh? Blow up the island?" "Actually, ... now that you mention it ..."
Farscape and Blake's Seven were interesting because they took the Star Trek formula of the utopian future and messed with it; Blake was a dissident, imprisoned by the Federation (and they used the same symbol, too, only inverted!) on framed charges of child abuse, while the crew of Moya were a load of dysfunctional escaped convicts who couldn't stand each other for a season and a half.
The new BSG mini-series was wonderful, but the thing that I really liked was the religiousity of the Cylons; it's unclear (at that point, at least) whether it's something built in by their creators or whether it's something that they developed independently. There's a few things like it in some of Asimov's Robot stories, but not quite the same way as here.
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KingCracker wrote: Mine would be the Firefly episode where Capt Renolds got into the sword duel with that highclass jerk. Man that episode just cracked me up
Strangely that's the only episode I never liked. My favorite is still The Train Job, if only for this scene.
I really liked the finale of Stargate Universe, as the ship flew off into the unknown.
"By this point I'm convinced 100% that every single race in the 40k universe have somehow tapped into the ork ability to just have their tech work because they think it should."
My favourite line from Babylon 5 (other than the "no boom today" line) has to be, as always a conversation between Molari and Vir:
Ambassador Londo Mollari: But this - this, this, this is like being nibbled to death by... what are those Earth creatures called? Feathers, long bill, webbed feet... go 'quack'...
Ambassador Vir Cotto: Cats.
Ambassador Londo Mollari: Cats. Being nibbled to death by cats.
But this thread has reminded me that I really need to pick up the Farscape DVDs... so funny...
"But me no buts! Our comrades get hurt. Our friends die. Falkenburg is a knight who swore an oath to serve the church and to defend the weak. He'd be the first to tell you to stop puling and start planning. Because what we are doing-at risk to ourselves-is what we have sworn to do. The West relies on us. It is a risk we take with pride. It is an oath we honour. Even when some soft southern burgher mutters about us, we know the reason he sleeps soft and comfortable, why his wife is able to complain about the price of cabbages as her most serious problem and why his children dare to throw dung and yell "Knot" when we pass. It's because we are what we are. For all our faults we stand for law and light.
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AegisGrimm wrote:I really liked the finale of Stargate Universe, as the ship flew off into the unknown.
The show was dropped just at it got its gak together and started becoming something nice (just as the two squabbling scientists found their characters). The ending even provided them with an excuse to pick it up a few years later (they could even explain the ageing of the actors with malfunctioning cryo-beds or something like that).
On the topic of Firefly, Serenity's (the movie) introduction to the world and the characters was handled great. It explained the whole crew in about five minutes while also kickstarting the movie. For those who haven't seen it (it's a tiny bit spoiler-ish if you haven't seen the show):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnwEatEZek0
simonr1978 wrote: Space: Above and Beyond. Especially the ending of the first dual part episode. You really can't imagine how revultionary all that now very obviously CGI was when you see it now.
Still looks good today, got them on my h/drive. Them and Babylon 5, plus movies. DS9 The magnificent Ferengi, now that was funny.
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Put your hands in a bucket of warm water,
then pull them out fast. The size of the hole shows how important you are.
I think we should roll some dice, to see if we should roll some dice, To decide if all this dice rolling is good for the game.