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Hi guys... I just found out about MWO last week

I want in if your still doing the Dakka mercinary company

Think we're still planning on it when the game comes out.

Mercenaries! Hah. Their loyalty does not extend beyond the latest c-bill transfer - and very likely not even that!

(and yeah, I'm going DCMS )

Gawd dammit I've waited like 10 years for a mechwarrior game why is another 3 weeks so impossible? why can't they just take my damm money now

That Stalker looks awesome. It's about a hundred times better than the original version. I know they probably won't, but it'd be awesome if they released some re-sculpted minis based on the MWO mechs.

New minis would be awesome, but it would be up to the painter to make them really look as good as the new stuff.

it's easier to make an awesome mech out of an awesome skulpt.... no not the Awesome you idiots................

you know what I mean...

they said you can't polish a turd untill mythbusters proved them wrong but it's still easier to polish a shiny thing

mullet_steve wrote:Gawd dammit I've waited like 10 years for a mechwarrior game why is another 3 weeks so impossible? why can't they just take my damm money now

Because it's Free To Play- they don't take money for it.

Anvildude wrote:

mullet_steve wrote:Gawd dammit I've waited like 10 years for a mechwarrior game why is another 3 weeks so impossible? why can't they just take my damm money now

Because it's Free To Play- they don't take money for it.

founders pack means I get to play the game early for around £40.00 ($60.00) which I would pay for the game if I am honest so that's what I am going to do. plus they give you other great freebies....


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so who's the graphics/computer genius around these parts.... we could have a website up and running for chatting and organisation already?

What is the up side to the pulse lasers vs normal laser?

They likely do more damage per heat or per second if you can keep them on target during the whole time you use them, while normal lasers do a lot of damage up front instead.

That's what I would assume as well - we've seen this work in other games already, and it is a somewhat difficult choice to make, as both systems offer their own advantages.

Even if the damage is completely equal, it'd still be "balanced" in that you trade an all-or-nothing shot from a normal laser versus a pulse salvo that will ultimately do less damage if you miss even just a single shot. Not to mention that having to stay on target all the time means that the pilot will have to expose his/her 'mech to enemy fire, whereas someone with a normal laser could - the environment permitting - dodge in and out of cover to deliver a snapshot at the enemy whilst minimizing the time he/she provides a good target.

In the timeline, Extended Range Large Lasers have become available for all the major factions again just a few years ago, so you could do some long distance sniping with the above-mentioned method.

That's my guess. ER lasers versus pulse lasers is a matter choice between range versus increased damage potential, and regular lasers are probably chosen because of reduced heat and cost.

Deathshead420 wrote:What is the up side to the pulse lasers vs normal laser?

For comparison purposes I'll give you the TT stats. This is for Inner Sphere, Clan weapons did more damage and have longer ranges and weighed less.

Large Laser - Heat 8, Damage 8, Range 1-15, Weight 5 ton
Med. Laser - Heat 3, Damage 5, Range 1-9, Weight 1 ton
Sm. Laser - Heat 1, Damage 3, Range 1-3, Weight .5 ton

Large Pulse - Heat 10, Damage 9, Range 1-10, Weight 7 ton
Med. Pulse - Heat 4, Damage 6, Range 1-6, Weight 2 ton
Sm. Pulse - Heat 2, Damage 3, Range 1-3, Weight 1 ton

ER Large - Heat 12, Damage 8, Range 1-19, Weight 5 ton
ER Med. - Heat 5, Damage 5, Range 1-12, Weight 1 ton
ER Small - Heat 2, Damage 3, Range 1-5, Weight .5 ton

Well, regular lasers fire for about 0,5 sec in MWO, so you can "drag" them over a target, this however means, that most of your damage gets spread over different sections. Pulse lasers pulse 3 times, making it much easier to get the damage in one or 2 spots instead of all over. They are especialy great vs lights because they are such a bitch to hit.

Pulse lasers (And ER lasers too) generate more heat. Pulse lasers do like 1 damage more but that's not really what you get them for.

Pulse lasers also have less range then regular lasers. IMO pulse lasers make for a much better Alpha strike weapon.

Yes even your regular lasers fire for an amount of time in this new wechwarrior universe they are creating. From what I have read this is part of an attempt to rebalance the weaponry to make balisitic weapons like ac's, lrm's, Srm's more viable...

Simply put to stop everyone building a laserboat they have nerfed the lasers slightly

Hmm, I only recall how it worked in MechCommander - didn't regular lasers always had a semi-persistent beam rather than just a flash?

I too heard people say that LRMs are a bit crappy right now, tho.

Those have been fixed and are extremely good at shooting off an atlas' head.

So you're telling me that my sweet Hunchback 4P is nerfed :(

Back to Laser Locusts then (2E)

LRM Damage should be divided randomly in 5 dmg blocks all across the opponents visible target areas.

This isn´t TT.

Things damage what they hit. LRMS fly in an Arc thus they have a habit of landing on things heads.

They do need to tone it down some, Atlas head shots are killing me.


Thanks to the information of dakka, I have switched from ppc's back to ac/20 and have been doing much better. So twin large pulse and ac 20 with 4 units of ammo seems to work nicely for me.

deathshead420... if your in the Beta you have agreed to a non disclosure agreement... you arn't allowed to talk about it.


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Lynata wrote:Hmm, I only recall how it worked in MechCommander - didn't regular lasers always had a semi-persistent beam rather than just a flash?

I too heard people say that LRMs are a bit crappy right now, tho.

in the old games the damage was transfered instantly that dosen't happen any more

mullet_steve wrote:deathshead420... if your in the Beta you have agreed to a non disclosure agreement... you arn't allowed to talk about it.

Indeed. Talking about it can result in your beta privileges being revoked, amongst other penalties stated in the NDA.

Soladrin wrote:Mech 12 has arrived:

Not a fan of the reverse jointed legs.

Also, What's this about a Beta?

They gave away about ~1500-2000 beta keys. Beta players are covered by an NDA and cannot legally reveal the game.

They will give more out now that E3 is finished..

Melissia wrote:They will give more out now that E3 is finished..

Here's hoping. I wanna see that "Pending" go away and be replaced with a happier color.

Not a hope, they stated that they were postponing sending out more keys until after E3.

I think they're up to 4-6000 beta invites now?

Not sure, haven't paid much attention aside from checking my beta status every few days.

mullet_steve wrote:in the old games the damage was transfered instantly that dosen't happen any more

The damage, yeah - but the animation?
Don't get me wrong, I wasn't referring to the mechanics, just to the ... uh ... visual presentation. "The fluff", so to say.

Slarg232 wrote:Not a fan of the reverse jointed legs.

Phht. Chicken legs are the best! Ever since the AT-ST and ED-209.