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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/04 23:30:52
Subject: ver 150 Students Walk Out Of School To Protest Transgender Teen Using Girls’ Locker Room
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[DCM]
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Heads up!
"FTFY" is a major no-go here.
Thanks!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/04 23:31:20
Subject: ver 150 Students Walk Out Of School To Protest Transgender Teen Using Girls’ Locker Room
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Dakka Veteran
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Sigvatr wrote:So after we got names checked on the bad analogies list, go ahead and add sexual orientation to it!
Sex is a bad analogy for gender, if we're making lists.
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Why must I always choose beween certain death and probable death. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/04 23:32:11
Subject: Re:ver 150 Students Walk Out Of School To Protest Transgender Teen Using Girls’ Locker Room
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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No, what I said lines up with what they say. They say they are genuinely mentally female. This can be true, but it doesn't change the fact their body is 100% male. Or vice verse.
Your sex is your sex. You cannot change it(all you can do is snip off the offending parts and alter them to physically appear and function like the real deal. But it doesn't change your biological sex). Everyone I know refers to males by the pronoun "He". Everyone I know refers to females by the pronoun "She".
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2015/09/04 23:46:48
Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/04 23:37:57
Subject: ver 150 Students Walk Out Of School To Protest Transgender Teen Using Girls’ Locker Room
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Fixture of Dakka
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Kilkrazy wrote: Chongara wrote: Kilkrazy wrote: Desubot wrote: Kilkrazy wrote:
It's a girls' bathroom because we say it's a girl's bathroom.
Why do we say it is a girls' bathroom? Because it is for girls.
So you are saying its reasonable and expected for a penis to walk into a girls bathroom for all the girls to see?
No, absolutely not. What I am saying is that the reasons why we are against that are due to social prejudices resulting from sexual hangups, not because boys catch cooties from seeing a girl's pubis, or girls get pregnant from seeing a boy's penis.
Well of course not, don't be silly. But what if they touch a towel that was used to dry a penis? That's a one way ticket baby city. It's just a risk you can't take, especially since once one girl gets pregnant they rest are sure to catch it. Once that stuff goes airborne, it just doesn't stop until you've got a whole nursery full of little ones.
The only solution might be to take off and nuke the site from orbit.
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Comedy gold as it is, this thread might be needing to be nuked from orbit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/04 23:38:15
Subject: Re:ver 150 Students Walk Out Of School To Protest Transgender Teen Using Girls’ Locker Room
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Grey Templar wrote:No, what I said lines up with what they say. They say they are genuinely mentally female. This can be true, but it doesn't change the fact their body is 100% male. Or vice verse.
Your sex is your sex. You cannot change it(all you can do is snip off the offending parts and alter them to physically appear and function like the real deal. But it doesn't change your biological sex). We refer to males by the pronoun "He". We refer to females by the pronoun "She".
We refer to people who are mentally (identify as) female as 'she'. Its a thing. Compare a few news articles about Laverne Cox - sure, you might find the occasional 'he', particularly if you follow Fox news etc., but the vast majority run with 'she'
Because 'we' don't actually refer to people by the junk they were born with - we refer to them with sexed pronouns until they're able to tell us the pronouns they want.
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Why must I always choose beween certain death and probable death. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/04 23:38:37
Subject: ver 150 Students Walk Out Of School To Protest Transgender Teen Using Girls’ Locker Room
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Bob wrote: d-usa wrote:If you tell me your name is Mike, then I will call you Mike.
I remember popping out of my mom's vagoo and everyone was like "That's a Mike! It's a Mike!"
they were wrong.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/04 23:41:20
Subject: Re:ver 150 Students Walk Out Of School To Protest Transgender Teen Using Girls’ Locker Room
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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Crystal-Maze wrote: Grey Templar wrote:No, what I said lines up with what they say. They say they are genuinely mentally female. This can be true, but it doesn't change the fact their body is 100% male. Or vice verse.
Your sex is your sex. You cannot change it(all you can do is snip off the offending parts and alter them to physically appear and function like the real deal. But it doesn't change your biological sex). We refer to males by the pronoun "He". We refer to females by the pronoun "She".
We refer to people who are mentally (identify as) female as 'she'. Its a thing. Compare a few news articles about Laverne Cox - sure, you might find the occasional 'he', particularly if you follow Fox news etc., but the vast majority run with 'she'
Because 'we' don't actually refer to people by the junk they were born with - we refer to them with sexed pronouns until they're able to tell us the pronouns they want.
Speaking for the whole world are we?
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/04 23:44:23
Subject: Re:ver 150 Students Walk Out Of School To Protest Transgender Teen Using Girls’ Locker Room
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Dakka Veteran
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Grey Templar wrote:Crystal-Maze wrote: Grey Templar wrote:No, what I said lines up with what they say. They say they are genuinely mentally female. This can be true, but it doesn't change the fact their body is 100% male. Or vice verse.
Your sex is your sex. You cannot change it(all you can do is snip off the offending parts and alter them to physically appear and function like the real deal. But it doesn't change your biological sex). We refer to males by the pronoun "He". We refer to females by the pronoun "She".
We refer to people who are mentally (identify as) female as 'she'. Its a thing. Compare a few news articles about Laverne Cox - sure, you might find the occasional 'he', particularly if you follow Fox news etc., but the vast majority run with 'she'
Because 'we' don't actually refer to people by the junk they were born with - we refer to them with sexed pronouns until they're able to tell us the pronouns they want.
Speaking for the whole world are we?
Nope, just the majority of the media. And the majority of people I meet - can't speak beyond that.
However, please note your use of 'we' in the first post I quoted in this line of argument ("We refer to males by the pronoun "He"") - if I'm speaking for the world, we both are. And we're saying very different things.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/04 23:46:20
Subject: Re:ver 150 Students Walk Out Of School To Protest Transgender Teen Using Girls’ Locker Room
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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You are correct. My bad on that.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/05 00:01:40
Subject: Re:ver 150 Students Walk Out Of School To Protest Transgender Teen Using Girls’ Locker Room
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Seattle
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Grey Templar wrote:No, what I said lines up with what they say. They say they are genuinely mentally female. This can be true, but it doesn't change the fact their body is 100% male. Or vice verse.
Your sex is your sex. You cannot change it(all you can do is snip off the offending parts and alter them to physically appear and function like the real deal. But it doesn't change your biological sex). Everyone I know refers to males by the pronoun "He". Everyone I know refers to females by the pronoun "She".
But it's incredibly rude if you refer to trans-sexuals as their birth gender, you're supposed to refer to them with the gender pronoun they prefer. M2F is "she", F2M is "he".
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It is best to be a pessimist. You are usually right and, when you're wrong, you're pleasantly surprised. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/05 00:07:46
Subject: Re:ver 150 Students Walk Out Of School To Protest Transgender Teen Using Girls’ Locker Room
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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Psienesis wrote: Grey Templar wrote:No, what I said lines up with what they say. They say they are genuinely mentally female. This can be true, but it doesn't change the fact their body is 100% male. Or vice verse.
Your sex is your sex. You cannot change it(all you can do is snip off the offending parts and alter them to physically appear and function like the real deal. But it doesn't change your biological sex). Everyone I know refers to males by the pronoun "He". Everyone I know refers to females by the pronoun "She".
But it's incredibly rude if you refer to trans-sexuals as their birth gender, you're supposed to refer to them with the gender pronoun they prefer. M2F is "she", F2M is "he".
You won't mind if I wait till they've actually had their operation. I would feel very incorrect to use the pronouns like that if it hadn't happened yet.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/05 00:09:37
Subject: Re:ver 150 Students Walk Out Of School To Protest Transgender Teen Using Girls’ Locker Room
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Ferocious Black Templar Castellan
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Sigvatr wrote: d-usa wrote:
You use "her" for the same reason people shouldn't be called bigots, because it's disrespectful and not polite.
Also you use "her" because if you don't you are being disrespectful to every other transgender person reading this thread.
Maybe you can use "her" just so that you can feel like you can be a bigger and better person than the disrespectful penis owner.
Wrong. It's that arrogance that causes a lot of confusion that then leads to anger. If you want to identify as something different than what you are, then YOU are asking a favor FROM others. You ask THEM to behave differently just because YOU want it to be that way. Forcing your decision on others and ignoring their very own judgement just because YOU want it that way is wht's incredibly arrogant and rude here. If he wants to be called a she, then ask people to do so. If they do, great for you, if they don't, it's their decision and you either have to respect it or be hyper hypocrite.
I think I'll start referring to you as a turnip, then. After all, if turnip doesn't like being called a turnip, that's turnip's problem, and turnip is demanding that I accommodate turnip.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/05 00:10:05
Subject: ver 150 Students Walk Out Of School To Protest Transgender Teen Using Girls’ Locker Room
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Seattle
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What I mind or don't is irrelevant, since you won't be addressing me. What the trans-sexual individual you'd be addressing minds, that's a different story entirely.
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It is best to be a pessimist. You are usually right and, when you're wrong, you're pleasantly surprised. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/05 00:11:21
Subject: Re:ver 150 Students Walk Out Of School To Protest Transgender Teen Using Girls’ Locker Room
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Krazed Killa Kan
Homestead, FL
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AlmightyWalrus wrote: Sigvatr wrote: d-usa wrote:
You use "her" for the same reason people shouldn't be called bigots, because it's disrespectful and not polite.
Also you use "her" because if you don't you are being disrespectful to every other transgender person reading this thread.
Maybe you can use "her" just so that you can feel like you can be a bigger and better person than the disrespectful penis owner.
Wrong. It's that arrogance that causes a lot of confusion that then leads to anger. If you want to identify as something different than what you are, then YOU are asking a favor FROM others. You ask THEM to behave differently just because YOU want it to be that way. Forcing your decision on others and ignoring their very own judgement just because YOU want it that way is wht's incredibly arrogant and rude here. If he wants to be called a she, then ask people to do so. If they do, great for you, if they don't, it's their decision and you either have to respect it or be hyper hypocrite.
I think I'll start referring to you as a turnip, then. After all, if turnip doesn't like being called a turnip, that's turnip's problem, and turnip is demanding that I accommodate turnip.
made me LOL a bit, have an exalt. But where did you come up with Turnip, wouldnt Parsnip be better?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/05 00:18:16
Subject: ver 150 Students Walk Out Of School To Protest Transgender Teen Using Girls’ Locker Room
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[MOD]
Not as Good as a Minion
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We're done here, nothing valuable coming out of it any more, and too many people toeing the line
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I wish I had time for all the game systems I own, let alone want to own... |
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