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The new UM upgrade kit looks surprisingly good. I can only hope BA get something as pleasing some time down the line..

Especially love the sculpted chapter logos you can use for vehicle doors and that. Gorgeous

PenitentJake wrote:My kingdom for a box of DW shoulderpads including:

10x Tacticus/ Firstborn
10x Phobos
5 or 10x Terminator/ Gravis

WAY more necessary- two termie pads on an upgrade sprue is lame- you need three frames to create one 5 man unit of termies!

tauist wrote:The new UM upgrade kit looks surprisingly good. I can only hope BA get something as pleasing some time down the line..

Especially love the sculpted chapter logos you can use for vehicle doors and that. Gorgeous

Who’s received new upgrade sprues? There were the old firstborn ones, another round of primaris ones, and now these 2nd wave primaris ones. Just Ultras and DA at this point?

Do the Dark Angels pads fit the new Terminators?

The last time I saw a Dark Angel's Deathwing, they were the not-quite-Primaris sized guys.

 Lathe Biosas wrote:
Do the Dark Angels pads fit the new Terminators?

The last time I saw a Dark Angel's Deathwing, they were the not-quite-Primaris sized guys.

I could be mistaken. I thought they had got a fresh upgrade since the new termies dropped.

Edit:
My go-to for minis over editions (https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Portal:Miniatures) had both DA and BA upgrades in 10th. As we got the new termies with the Leviathan box, I’d assume the pads would work with them. Might not be backwards compatible with the DA specific terminators. But then, they would not needs the extra chapter bling, as it’s baked into their kit.

Blood Angels and Dark Angels both have full upgrade sets that ultramarines arte joining. Space Wolves just get a bunch of full kits instead.

So uh, with all the FB units getting upgrades now and/or rumored to be, is this the end of Primaris? In the sense that they'll be getting no more new units anymore?

Primaris was always just an excuse to have a mix of model sizes while they rolled out the resculpts. Now that they've more or less completely replaced the firstborn stuff, Primaris are just what Marines are without the need for distinction.


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 Lathe Biosas wrote:
Do the Dark Angels pads fit the new Terminators?

The last time I saw a Dark Angel's Deathwing, they were the not-quite-Primaris sized guys.

Gravis (and Bladeguard) shoulderpads have always been the same scale as Terminator shoulder pads.

 Ferrum_Sanguinis wrote:
So uh, with all the FB units getting upgrades now and/or rumored to be, is this the end of Primaris? In the sense that they'll be getting no more new units anymore?

No? Why would you think that? The only FB units getting upgrades are terminators, everything else is a primaris upgrade.

 Nevelon wrote:

 Ashiraya wrote:
We do have a Prime on foot. It's part of its unit box, just like the Mega-Armour Big Mek and Allarus Shield-Captains for example.

It and the Neurothrope were essentially removed as datasheets and demoted to line grunts for seemingly arbitrary reasons instead of being given the same treatment as aforementioned units, but the miniatures are very much still there.

Probably due to 10th unit pricing. They want the points to be simple, one box=points x, 2 boxes =points 2x. If you can build a character out of the unit box you end up with entries like the harlequin troope.

You end up with entries like aforementioned Big Mek in Mega-Armour (see meganobz) or Allarus Shield-Captain (see Allarus Terminators).

Yes, it results in ridiculous unit sizes, but that's an issue with 10th edition army building, and it's arbitrary that exceptions were made for some characters but not others.

beast_gts wrote:


Rustle up a free Ratling miniature of the month and a Warhammer Day coin

Is it just me, or is his foot bigger than his head?

Bob Lorgar wrote:

beast_gts wrote:


Rustle up a free Ratling miniature of the month and a Warhammer Day coin

Is it just me, or is his foot bigger than his head?

Thats why he's a filthy mutant sanctioned abhuman.

chaos0xomega wrote:

 Ferrum_Sanguinis wrote:
So uh, with all the FB units getting upgrades now and/or rumored to be, is this the end of Primaris? In the sense that they'll be getting no more new units anymore?

No? Why would you think that? The only FB units getting upgrades are terminators, everything else is a primaris upgrade.

I think it's a pretty valid question.

Marines have become a bloated range with a lot of random units that feel unnecessary like Reivers, Suppressors, and Inceptors. With the most recent additions having been Terminators, Sternguard Vets, and Scouts; it does feel like they are moving back to older unit layouts.

Plus Valrak has continued to say with confidence that 11th edition Marines are getting Vanguard Vets and a nu-Tactical Squad. It's not impossible to imagine the Tactics armored units getting consolidated into Tacticals, Gravis into nu-Devastators, and Phobos just being kept as is.

That alone would prune down the range massively, still keep most current models usable, and the upgrade sprues wouldn't even need to change.

 Jack Flask wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:

 Ferrum_Sanguinis wrote:
So uh, with all the FB units getting upgrades now and/or rumored to be, is this the end of Primaris? In the sense that they'll be getting no more new units anymore?

No? Why would you think that? The only FB units getting upgrades are terminators, everything else is a primaris upgrade.

I think it's a pretty valid question.

Marines have become a bloated range with a lot of random units that feel unnecessary like Reivers, Suppressors, and Inceptors. With the most recent additions having been Terminators, Sternguard Vets, and Scouts; it does feel like they are moving back to older unit layouts.

Plus Valrak has continued to say with confidence that 11th edition Marines are getting Vanguard Vets and a nu-Tactical Squad. It's not impossible to imagine the Tactics armored units getting consolidated into Tacticals, Gravis into nu-Devastators, and Phobos just being kept as is.

That alone would prune down the range massively, still keep most current models usable, and the upgrade sprues wouldn't even need to change.

This is what I'd expect, but it'll still all be primaris.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
Blood Angels and Dark Angels both have full upgrade sets that ultramarines arte joining. Space Wolves just get a bunch of full kits instead.

oof. I actually have that kit. Such a shame, BA never got those chunky vehicle symbols in theirs. Cant help but to feel envious of UM players right about now..

 LunarSol wrote:

Gravis (and Bladeguard) shoulderpads have always been the same scale as Terminator shoulder pads.

That's the old terminators. I'm pretty sure the new terminator shoulderpads are larger.

Feels a bit weird for Ultramarines to get stuff during the end of edition time. Might it be an indication that a different chapter takes the spotlight in next edition's launch box?

Nice that GW keeps doing those upgrade sprues. They should keep at it and make them for both less advertised chapters and non-Imperials. Spread out the love a little.

 Geifer wrote:
Feels a bit weird for Ultramarines to get stuff during the end of edition time. Might it be an indication that a different chapter takes the spotlight in next edition's launch box?

Nice that GW keeps doing those upgrade sprues. They should keep at it and make them for both less advertised chapters and non-Imperials. Spread out the love a little.

They did a pretty good job with the upgrade sprues in the past for the other 1st founding chapters (and BT) not just the big 4. There is obviously still some favoritism, but it’s not just a footnote and maybe a named character anymore.

It would be nice to see the pattern continue.

Some of the chapter specific/themed CPs do come with upgrade frames.

 Geifer wrote:
Feels a bit weird for Ultramarines to get stuff during the end of edition time. Might it be an indication that a different chapter takes the spotlight in next edition's launch box?

Nice that GW keeps doing those upgrade sprues. They should keep at it and make them for both less advertised chapters and non-Imperials. Spread out the love a little.

I did see a rumour the other day that the 11th ed box was going to be painted as Blood Angels FWIW.

Of course, we've heard that before and it's turned out not to be true.

Have they been on the big box since 2nd?

2nd - BA
3rd - BT
4th-5th - UM
6th-7th - DA
8th+ UM

Everything besides the 6/7 was just a paintjob. DA actually got chapter specific stuff in their box.

 Geifer wrote:
Feels a bit weird for Ultramarines to get stuff during the end of edition time.

At least they're not losing stuff at the end of edition time.

Unlike another faction I could name . . .

Probably the Blood Angels rumour is more likely to be a new edition of Space Hulk.

Given the 40th anniversary of the game in 2027, and the rumours of Orks...I'll wager that Ultramarines are getting the love now as 11th edition will be Crimson Fists. It'll soon be time to return to the farm...40K's "Sky Fall".

It would be awesome if the 11th edition boxed set was called Battle at the Farm, but I won’t hold my breath.

 The Phazer wrote:

 Geifer wrote:
Feels a bit weird for Ultramarines to get stuff during the end of edition time. Might it be an indication that a different chapter takes the spotlight in next edition's launch box?

Nice that GW keeps doing those upgrade sprues. They should keep at it and make them for both less advertised chapters and non-Imperials. Spread out the love a little.

I did see a rumour the other day that the 11th ed box was going to be painted as Blood Angels FWIW.

Of course, we've heard that before and it's turned out not to be true.

Would be nice to see Blood Angels on a starter box cover again. But yeah, I guess we'll see if GW is willing to ease up a little on ramming Ultramarines down our throats every chance they get.

 vipoid wrote:

 Geifer wrote:
Feels a bit weird for Ultramarines to get stuff during the end of edition time.

At least they're not losing stuff at the end of edition time.

Unlike another faction I could name . . .

But think of all the Ultramarines they can make out of melted down Dark Eldar models! Isn't that what you want? Isn't that what everybody wants?

 Pariah Press wrote:
It would be awesome if the 11th edition boxed set was called Battle at the Farm, but I won’t hold my breath.

"Invasion of Sector Agrilocarum"

 Pariah Press wrote:
It would be awesome if the 11th edition boxed set was called Battle at the Farm, but I won’t hold my breath.

They should just do exactly this. It's all been leading to this moment - like when the Emperor in Star Wars ordered the closure of Bea Arthur's cantina. It's central to the whole conflict of 40K - to everything.

Dawn of War 4 releases next year too. Maybe GW finally got the hang of multimedia tie-in releases, and the rumoured Blood Angel edition release box is actually Blood Ravens?


(No, I'm not holding my breath either. Would be cool though).

Valrak also said today on his live stream that he has heard the 11th ed box will be painted as Blood Angels too (which was not the source I heard it from when I posted a few days ago).

Valrak (or his source) probably heard it from you

And that's it. Both Warhammer Quest games are now gone from the webstore.

I'm guessing there will be an announcement shortly for new board games. My money is on Space Hulk and "Nurgle-Quest".

Hmm. What if the next 40K Quest game was also the next Space Hulk?
Terminators with a Quest profile vs. NPC genestealers. It could work.