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Now that 8th is just around the corner and people are saying it's getting AOSed I was thinking back on past edition and if they could be summed up in a catch phrase. Here's some that's either been used or that are descriptive of the editions. Do you have diffrent names for them, and doyou think theese are accurate?

1ed: game master edition
Steeming from the fact that rouge trader required a game master, like a roleplay game. I wasn't around at the time and don't own a copy so I don't really know.

2ed: ?
No clue really, seems to be very little talk about 2ed.

3ed: overhaul edition
Biggest rule change of any edition and set the standard of the game.

4ed: (rhino) rush edition
Also known as bumrush ed. Whenever it be fish of fury or rhino rush the ability to charge out of transports and how good close combat was made sure you'd see lots of angry lists in this ed.

5ed: herohammer edition
Foccused more heavily on special characters then ever before and all but forced you to take them to have a competetive list.

6ed: heavyhammer edition
With the introduction of superheavies in regular 40k games this ed saw knights and such be commonly fielded.

7ed: free edition
Formations give so much free stuff, whenever it's units or upgrades, that points wise free armies has been most peoples bugbear if they want to play none formation stuff.

8ed: age of the Emperor edition
Seems like it's getting heavily AOSed. The term "age of the Emperor" has caught on.

 Nerak wrote:
4ed: (rhino) rush edition
Also known as bumrush ed. Whenever it be fish of fury or rhino rush the ability to charge out of transports and how good close combat was made sure you'd see lots of angry lists in this ed.

3rd ed was age of rhino rush(particularly blood angels with their fast rhino's that IIRC gave chance for 1st turn charges). 4th ed took out assaulting from rhino's(maybe you could if vehicle stayed put but no more 12" rhino move+2" disembar+6" assault like 3rd ed.

I see great discussion in this threads near future...

I dunno, I saw 6th Edition as the edition of Monstrous Creatures, since Riptides and Wraithknights became a thing.

7th Edition is either the edition of out-of-control allies or Destroyer attacks.

tneva82 wrote:

 Nerak wrote:
4ed: (rhino) rush edition
Also known as bumrush ed. Whenever it be fish of fury or rhino rush the ability to charge out of transports and how good close combat was made sure you'd see lots of angry lists in this ed.

3rd ed was age of rhino rush(particularly blood angels with their fast rhino's that IIRC gave chance for 1st turn charges). 4th ed took out assaulting from rhino's(maybe you could if vehicle stayed put but no more 12" rhino move+2" disembar+6" assault like 3rd ed.

Indeed. Rhinos were rubbish in 4th edition. 3rd edition was the Rhino Rush era. 4th edition was the Fish of Fury era.

2nd edition was Herohammer.

5th wasn't particularly skewed towards special characters. I would have pegged it more on tanks or deathstars.

5th was the dreaded Cheesing of Wound Allocation.

Multi-Wound Madness!

1ed: game master edition
Agreed.

2ed: complex-hammer
So many rules, so much stuff, and no way to play a game quickly.

3ed: sweep-hammer
Assault was at its most powerful, because you could sweep people in close combat (even Marines) and that sweep could even bring you into a new close combat within 2d6 inches.

4ed: Grey Knight Hammer
So much power.

5ed: Parking Lot Hammer
Never get out of the vehicle. It's much safer in here.

6ed: Allie Hammer
Everyone allies, and Taudar become the big deal. Wave Serpents having more firepower with their defensive weapon than most vehicles can even pay to get access to doesn't help.

7ed: Formation Hammer
Best edition for GW's pocketbook . GW discovered that if they give people more bonuses for playing with certain arrangements of things, then people will buy things that they don't normally buy. Problem gets so bad that playing without 3 other books of special rules means you can't compete.

8ed: ??? Edition
I'm totally happy if this is Age of the Emperor. GW seems to be talking and engaging with the community, and seems to have their hearts set on balancing things and really seeing eye-to-eye with us. I'm super excited for things to come. The latest codexes and FAQs and books of 7th have shown me that GW really does want to change (Traitor Legions, Genestealer Cults, Harlequins, etc.).

Fish of Fury was a Tau Tactic

and it wasn't about the Tau assaulting you, but about how you could use the huge Tau Vehicles to block stuff

Newhammer

As of right now? The SkyFall or Chicken Little edition. It's pretty comical once you step back a little.

You know what's interesting? It looks like different people have different complaints about each edition, probably based on the local meta. I sort of assumed the meta was the same everywhere.

I got the impression that 6th was the edition of Monstrous Creatures. Tau got the Riptide, Eldar got the Wraithknight, and both immediately infested every list I ever saw and haven't gone away.

7th edition is the edition of crazy allies matricies. I've brought Guard as a CAD, Guard ABG as an ally, Inquisition with 1 model as an ally, Sisters as a CAD, and Bran Redmaw and his merry band of miscreants as another ally, with a Sisters of Silence delegation of 5 models.

 insaniak wrote:


5th wasn't particularly skewed towards special characters. I would have pegged it more on tanks or deathstars.

I'd say you might regard deathstars and special characters if not as the same of course, at least strongly linked for those characters usually make for tough deathstars and therefore would be likely to play such a role.

But as far as I heard the tanks and especially transports where quite brutal in 5th, so you're probably right. At least it was for IG which would basically tend to mechaspam, so i think it may be considered as skewed towards armor.

I like to call WH40k 7th "whose edition is it anyway".

Because the rules are made up and the points don't matter.

"Ok, Sir, we're ready for battle"

"Right. Lieutenant, give me my battle strategy from High Command!"

"Er... I'm actually on the phone with them now. They're not sure what the objectives are, they say they'll figure them out as it goes."

"What? That's ludicrous! Call my librarian, he's a Telepath, have him contact High command and - "

"Sir, your librarian says he can't be sure WHAT kind of psyker he is, nor what his capabilities are. He's reasonably certain that he can manage to yell, but that's about it."

"Ridiculous! Why, if I weren't an urban warfare specialist, veteran of dozens of campaigns, I would be utterly unprepared for this..."

"Respectfully sir, you were an urban warfare specialist last week, today we can't be sure!"

That's the worst description of 5th I've ever seen.
5th edition was full of melta but above all else, metal boxes. The best lists had most metal boxes.

Could of sworn 5th was leafblower edition.

I guess parking lot edition works too.

the_scotsman wrote:
I like to call WH40k 7th "whose edition is it anyway".

Because the rules are made up and the points don't matter.

"Ok, Sir, we're ready for battle"

"Right. Lieutenant, give me my battle strategy from High Command!"

"Er... I'm actually on the phone with them now. They're not sure what the objectives are, they say they'll figure them out as it goes."

"What? That's ludicrous! Call my librarian, he's a Telepath, have him contact High command and - "

"Sir, your librarian says he can't be sure WHAT kind of psyker he is, nor what his capabilities are. He's reasonably certain that he can manage to yell, but that's about it."

"Ridiculous! Why, if I weren't an urban warfare specialist, veteran of dozens of campaigns, I would be utterly unprepared for this..."

"Respectfully sir, you were an urban warfare specialist last week, today we can't be sure!"

+1 Laugh of the day.

the_scotsman wrote:
I like to call WH40k 7th "whose edition is it anyway".

Because the rules are made up and the points don't matter.

"Ok, Sir, we're ready for battle"

"Right. Lieutenant, give me my battle strategy from High Command!"

"Er... I'm actually on the phone with them now. They're not sure what the objectives are, they say they'll figure them out as it goes."

"What? That's ludicrous! Call my librarian, he's a Telepath, have him contact High command and - "

"Sir, your librarian says he can't be sure WHAT kind of psyker he is, nor what his capabilities are. He's reasonably certain that he can manage to yell, but that's about it."

"Ridiculous! Why, if I weren't an urban warfare specialist, veteran of dozens of campaigns, I would be utterly unprepared for this..."

"Respectfully sir, you were an urban warfare specialist last week, today we can't be sure!"

The Chaos version would have the Keeper of Secrets lamenting that at least he/she still has his/her looks, before the player rolls "Corpulence" on the gifts table and he/she instantly gains 1.5 GUO's worth of weight.

Yeah but last one adds up with. unlike the one before it.

2nd ed. - Slow-hammer
A rule set designed before the 40k universe exploded well beyond what it could cope with. What was meant to be a small skirmish game turned into a galaxy spanning slobber-knocker. As the fun ground to a halt it was clear that we needed to streamline the rules so we could all use our entire unwieldy collections at once.

 MechaEmperor7000 wrote:

the_scotsman wrote:
I like to call WH40k 7th "whose edition is it anyway".

Because the rules are made up and the points don't matter.

"Ok, Sir, we're ready for battle"

"Right. Lieutenant, give me my battle strategy from High Command!"

"Er... I'm actually on the phone with them now. They're not sure what the objectives are, they say they'll figure them out as it goes."

"What? That's ludicrous! Call my librarian, he's a Telepath, have him contact High command and - "

"Sir, your librarian says he can't be sure WHAT kind of psyker he is, nor what his capabilities are. He's reasonably certain that he can manage to yell, but that's about it."

"Ridiculous! Why, if I weren't an urban warfare specialist, veteran of dozens of campaigns, I would be utterly unprepared for this..."

"Respectfully sir, you were an urban warfare specialist last week, today we can't be sure!"

The Chaos version would have the Keeper of Secrets lamenting that at least he/she still has his/her looks, before the player rolls "Corpulence" on the gifts table and he/she instantly gains 1.5 GUO's worth of weight.

Roflmao XD. I liked the initial quote and was gonna respond to that, but the corpulence thing made it even better. This pretty much made my day, thanks to the both of you

 Nerak wrote:
5ed: herohammer edition
Foccused more heavily on special characters then ever before and all but forced you to take them to have a competetive list.

This one puzzles me. There were certainly a few lists that relied on special characters (usually ones that made elites or FA units into troops), but from what I remember most SCs were no better value than the standard HQs, and many were overcosted and/or crap.

I'd argue that 6th or 7th was when special characters got really out of hand as you tended to get far more buff-stacking and super death stars.


I think 5th was more the edition of MSU and Transports.

I can only start from 5e since thats when I began playing.

5th: "Vehicles or Bust" (aka **** you Nids) Edition

6th: "Fliers Rule" (aka **** you NIds) Edition

7th: "Balance? Our customers just want cool models!" (aka **** you Nids) Edition

8th (tentitaviely): "Whoops, uh, guess our players actually do want balance after all" Edition

I've been calling it 8th of Sigmar.

Hordehammer will be 8th, because templates are toast, and there aren't a lot of ways to deal with massed infantry.

I thought 8th would be coined more as "Age of Guilliman".

8ed: Baby with the Bathwater Edition

"There are horrible flaws in the last edition that originated from the way we implemented core mechanics and our inability to remain consistent in how we apply the rules to each army? Screw trying fix it, just throw it all out and replace it with mechanics from our fantasy battle game..."

 Tsol wrote:
I've been calling it 8th of Sigmar.

There's always 8th of Shmegmar.

8th can be Throwing Hammer. Cause, you know, its balanced.

I'm going with "Gauss Edition", what with everything getting the power to wound any target on 6s.

Jack Flask wrote:
8ed: Baby with the Bathwater Edition

"There are horrible flaws in the last edition that originated from the way we implemented core mechanics and our inability to remain consistent in how we apply the rules to each army? Screw trying fix it, just throw it all out and replace it with mechanics from our fantasy battle game..."

I would argue that it would be throwing out the killer crocodile with the bathwater in this case.