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I don't have my indexes at hand now, but should the medic be able to bring back to life a guardsmen who's head just got blown off by a bolt ? It does create some funny scenarios, always killing the same model and trying to bring him back to life. But should there be an additional rule to prevent this ?

Why should there be a rule to prevent it ? A model can only die once per round and get revived the next turn. Why would you revive a guardsman anyway ? They are cannon fodder.

p5freak wrote:
Why should there be a rule to prevent it ? A model can only die once per round and get revived the next turn. Why would you revive a guardsman anyway ? They are cannon fodder.

To reuse them as cannon fodder I guess when there is nothing else to heal.

Besides, it is written in the fluff that a exemplary execution is fatal, like getting your head blown of, I know this is 8th edition where everything goes, but it should stick to it's fluff at least

It's even funnier when an Apothecary fails to revive a Marine on turn two and harvests his progenoids, then tries again on turn three and harvests his progenoids again, and again on turn four, and then on turn five successfully revives a Marine who is now half a stone lighter - with three sets of progenoid organs in his coldbox.

Or when a load of Necrons get bitten by Poxwalkers, turn into robot zombies, and then also reanimate. The undead horde can just keep growing whilst the mechs they're fighting keep getting up.

I see it as a sign that GW are moving to actually trying to make a decent game rather than half-assing some rules for their toy soldiers.

Funny stuff crops up in Warmachine as well, like trees becoming pirates or dogs becoming human skeleton people. It's one of those abstractions for the sake of the game that some people can't get over.

I always love Anatomical Precision on trees. Shanghaiing them into Pirates is also fun.

Sim-Life wrote:
I see it as a sign that GW are moving to actually trying to make a decent game rather than half-assing some rules for their toy soldiers.

Funny stuff crops up in Warmachine as well, like trees becoming pirates or dogs becoming human skeleton people. It's one of those abstractions for the sake of the game that some people can't get over.

Avast robots, Undead, and crazy dragon elves! Your joining the PIRATE CREW NOW!

 General Orange wrote:
I don't have my indexes at hand now, but should the medic be able to bring back to life a guardsmen who's head just got blown off by a bolt ? It does create some funny scenarios, always killing the same model and trying to bring him back to life. But should there be an additional rule to prevent this ?

If you assume that the FAQ ruling for Apothecaries also applies to IG Medics, then they can't revive guardsmen killed by Commissars.

 vipoid wrote:

 General Orange wrote:
I don't have my indexes at hand now, but should the medic be able to bring back to life a guardsmen who's head just got blown off by a bolt ? It does create some funny scenarios, always killing the same model and trying to bring him back to life. But should there be an additional rule to prevent this ?

If you assume that the FAQ ruling for Apothecaries also applies to IG Medics, then they can't revive guardsmen killed by Commissars.

Oh thanks ! Gonna take a look at it

Commissars don't slay any models. Morale losses can't be revived.

I can just see a particularly sadistic commissar constantly shooting the one Guardsmen in the head repeatedly and have the medic prolong his suffering, all the while yelling "THIS IS WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN TO YOU IF YOU GET CAUGHT BY THE DARK ELDAR" to the troops.

 BaconCatBug wrote:
Commissars don't slay any models. Morale losses can't be revived.

thats a good catch. according to the rules the model isn't killed. it's a morale loss.

Well yeah, but with diverse units accompanied by an Apothecary or Medic you're going to have to keep some records on who died from what. 'This casualties pile is for models that died and this one is for those who ran away'. I like the concept of pumping away on the defibrillator and trying to bring someone round but in practice I preferred the old 'get FNP' or 'ignore first unsaved wound' systems. I get the narrative intent but that's kind of thrown out the window when you've got your field surgeon standing 3" away from a character engaged in melee and throwing magic potions at him whilst he's thumping and parrying away

 lindsay40k wrote:
Well yeah, but with diverse units accompanied by an Apothecary or Medic you're going to have to keep some records on who died from what. 'This casualties pile is for models that died and this one is for those who ran away'. I like the concept of pumping away on the defibrillator and trying to bring someone round but in practice I preferred the old 'get FNP' or 'ignore first unsaved wound' systems. I get the narrative intent but that's kind of thrown out the window when you've got your field surgeon standing 3" away from a character engaged in melee and throwing magic potions at him whilst he's thumping and parrying away

throwing morphine syringes at the commander like his is some dart board

 General Orange wrote:

 lindsay40k wrote:
Well yeah, but with diverse units accompanied by an Apothecary or Medic you're going to have to keep some records on who died from what. 'This casualties pile is for models that died and this one is for those who ran away'. I like the concept of pumping away on the defibrillator and trying to bring someone round but in practice I preferred the old 'get FNP' or 'ignore first unsaved wound' systems. I get the narrative intent but that's kind of thrown out the window when you've got your field surgeon standing 3" away from a character engaged in melee and throwing magic potions at him whilst he's thumping and parrying away

throwing morphine syringes at the commander like his is some dart board

Like the medic from Team Fortress 2: just has a life-beam that inexplicably heals the commander because reasons.