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Quick question. We all know the Ecclesiarchy has an entire Adeptus composed of nuns who serve on all things nuns within Christian Catholic and Orthodox traditions have seen them used for with the addition of war. What about monks, where the hell are they? Is there space Shaolin (ok, I know Sisters of Battleare pretty much shaolin nuns with guns and armors)? If not, what the hell is GW waiting to produce space shaolin monks? Do any of you have any knowledge on it?

I think the Wu-Tang may have something to do with the lack of space Shaolin.

The Monks of the Eccleiarchy are not detailed much in 40K because they don't go to war in the organized manner of an army the way the Sisters of Battle do. After all, the Eccleiarchy is forbidden to have Men-In-Arms.

Epronovost, are you familiar with the Decree Passive fluff?
(It's not a jab, I think it offers a big part of the explanation but I'm feeling lazy so I don't want to explain it if you already know it.)

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
Epronovost, are you familiar with the Decree Passive fluff?
(It's not a jab, I think it offers a big part of the explanation but I'm feeling lazy so I don't want to explain it if you already know it.)

Of course I am. It's also well established that the Ecclesiarchy cheats or tries to cheat on that decree. They still arm and maintain the Frateris Militia under the excuse they aren't a ''standing military''. A monastic order which as two functions could thus circomvent the Decree Passive under the same excuse. They aren't warrior monks, they are monks dedicated to the carving of lithurgical art who also happen to be trained as a militia just in case. Plus, why wouldn't there be a monastic not involved in war like assassins, in intelligence gathering, exorcism of whiches daemons and dried raisins in cookies or plenty of other possible function.

Monks are there, and probably some of them do train for battle, but there is no organised force of monks in 40k (well, the Astartes are kinda monks, but they are not under the Ecclessiarchy).
They usually fight as part of other forces. Like this guy:



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epronovost wrote:

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
Epronovost, are you familiar with the Decree Passive fluff?
(It's not a jab, I think it offers a big part of the explanation but I'm feeling lazy so I don't want to explain it if you already know it.)

Of course I am. It's also well established that the Ecclesiarchy cheats or tries to cheat on that decree. They still arm and maintain the Frateris Militia under the excuse they aren't a ''standing military''. A monastic order which as two functions could thus circomvent the Decree Passive under the same excuse. They aren't warrior monks, they are monks dedicated to the carving of lithurgical art who also happen to be trained as a militia just in case. Plus, why wouldn't there be a monastic not involved in war like assassins, in intelligence gathering, exorcism of whiches daemons and dried raisins in cookies or plenty of other possible function.

The problem with that would be that a monastic order would be permanent, and thus constitute a standing army. Therefore the Ecclessiarchy can not have a monastic order of men trained for war or any sort of permanent military or militia. The Ordo Hereticus keeps a close eye on whether the Decree Passive is properly observed.

Pretty sure Crusaders would qualify as they lead as monastic a lifestyle as the sisters of battle, but their exact organizational nature (hinted at in the latest guard codex) isn't really known.

They're called Space Marines.

epronovost wrote:
It's also well established that the Ecclesiarchy cheats or tries to cheat on that decree. They still arm and maintain the Frateris Militia under the excuse they aren't a ''standing military''.

Frateris Milita are "People who obey the priest because they are devout". They don't have organization, training (provided by the Ecclesiarchy, some may be ex-PDF or ex-IG for all we know), or even anything.

epronovost wrote:
A monastic order which as two functions could thus circomvent the Decree Passive under the same excuse.

I don't think the rewards would be worth the risk. The Sisters can do all the need just fine. The Frateris Militia exist because, well, sometime one Priest doesn't have or doesn't want to call Sisters, or there isn't enough Sisters, or they really like martyrdom, so they tells their followers to go burn some mutants and some heretics.

Priests are assigned to the Imperial Guard. Crusaders are more or less paladins. In FF RPG DH 1ED (I like typing that) there's a order of psyker monks a character can join. The craziest kick ass insanely devouted group of Space wizards you'll find.