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2018/01/23 18:20:35
Subject: What would you want more Chaos Undivided Marines to look like?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I would love to see more along the lines of the Dark Vengeance Chaos Marines. I felt they had the level of mutation I'd love to see to make them more unique.
Would you want to see more like those or more along the lines of the newer, higher quality space marine kits + more detailed horns?
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2018/01/23 18:30:07
Subject: Re:What would you want more Chaos Undivided Marines to look like?
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Deathwing Terminator with Assault Cannon
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2018/01/23 18:31:37
Subject: What would you want more Chaos Undivided Marines to look like?
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
Vigo. Spain.
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Hatachi wrote:I would love to see more along the lines of the Dark Vengeance Chaos Marines. I felt they had the level of mutation I'd love to see to make them more unique.
Would you want to see more like those or more along the lines of the newer, higher quality space marine kits + more detailed horns?
Yeah, Chaos Undivided should follow the Dark Vengeance Chaos Lord, Aspiring Championg and Chosen Aesthetic.
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 Crimson Devil wrote:
Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.
ERJAK wrote:Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.
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2018/01/23 18:33:50
Subject: Re:What would you want more Chaos Undivided Marines to look like?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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My Chaos Pony: Friendship is Tragic
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2018/01/23 18:35:48
Subject: Re:What would you want more Chaos Undivided Marines to look like?
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Pyro Pilot of a Triach Stalker
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I think I got diabetes just looking at that photo.
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2018/01/23 18:38:23
Subject: Re:What would you want more Chaos Undivided Marines to look like?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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This is atrocious & awesome at the same time. How many lines do you have to snort to accomplish this feat?
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2018/01/23 18:40:16
Subject: What would you want more Chaos Undivided Marines to look like?
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Savage Khorne Berserker Biker
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I'd like to see a kit(s) that takes cues from the AoS Blood Warriors, DV Chosen to make something a bit more ornate. I have bought many chaos space marine kits, but I always think they're just a little on the plain side.
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2018/01/23 18:45:10
Subject: Re:What would you want more Chaos Undivided Marines to look like?
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
Vigo. Spain.
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 Strg Alt wrote:
This is atrocious & awesome at the same time. How many lines do you have to snort to accomplish this feat?
That army was bought by RIOT's CEO for 2.000 USD.
https://www.polygon.com/2016/12/15/13975648/my-little-pony-warhammer-40k-army-finds-surprising-new-owner
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Crimson Devil wrote:
Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.
ERJAK wrote:Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.
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2018/01/23 18:49:53
Subject: Re:What would you want more Chaos Undivided Marines to look like?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Thanks for the info. Great stuff.
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2018/01/23 18:50:16
Subject: What would you want more Chaos Undivided Marines to look like?
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Savage Khorne Berserker Biker
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I like the dark vengeance Chosen, but that level of mutation/iconography would IMO be best suited for Chosen, not standard CSM. I’d be happy if they kept the current design aesthetic for them (spikes here and there, trim, skulls, some daemonic ornamentation) but with crisp details, proper proportions, and non-squatty poses.
This guy’s work has good examples:
https://fonteart.deviantart.com/art/Chaos-space-marine-quick-sketch-336704426
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2018/01/23 19:37:10
Subject: Re:What would you want more Chaos Undivided Marines to look like?
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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I'll go wildly against the grain here...make them far less ornate. To be fair I run a CSM army which features only...a dozen actual Chaos models because I find the range is so overdone and silly. I was warming up to do a Death Guard army until they released the new models, and I simply can't cope with them. So they killed that idea stone cold dead, and I moved to my own CSM who simply worship <Nurgle>, etc.
I won't say any more as there is not a chance in hell GW will dial back the silliness/overstyling in future releases. If AoS/Death Guard are any indication the GW styling and I have parted ways. Luckily I have HH plastics.
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2018/01/23 20:45:07
Subject: What would you want more Chaos Undivided Marines to look like?
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Enigmatic Chaos Sorcerer
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Personally, I'd rather see them way less blinged out. The Dark Vengeance chosen were cool models, but had way too many small intricacies, filigree and details on them. I'd rather something closer to like 30k MkV armor; bits and pieces of various armor marks, possibly with spiked helmets (to show they are evil) similar to the 30k sons of horus range from forgeworld. Look barbaric and corrupt without lots of ridiculous detail.
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2018/01/23 22:58:24
Subject: What would you want more Chaos Undivided Marines to look like?
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Been Around the Block
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I'd like them to move away from the "Space Marines with Horns and topknots" look and more towards something a bit more unique. My favourite depiction is actually in the Codex artwork, but not the unit entry art in the "bestiary" section or colour pallets.
The Alpha Legionnaire on pg28, Iron Warrior on pg31, the Slaanesh marine on pg117. All these show Chaos Marines as something other than "spikey marine".
My all time favourite though is the one holding the axe on pg164. Similar aesthetic to the Dark Vengenace marines but a little less extreme. It's also pretty close to the appearance of the CSM corpse on Guilliman's base
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2018/01/23 23:11:16
Subject: What would you want more Chaos Undivided Marines to look like?
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Ancient Chaos Terminator
Surfing the Tervigon Wave...on a baby.
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 Wolf_in_Human_Shape wrote: I’d be happy if they kept the current design aesthetic for them (spikes here and there, trim, skulls, some daemonic ornamentation) but with crisp details, proper proportions, and non-squatty poses.
Oh gods no.
My problem with the current CSM aesthetic is that it is lazy. It is literally horns and trims sculpted on existing Imperial Marines.
What I'd prefer is closer to what the Raptors are at the moment - where they have the 'Marine' Silhouette but are distinctly different - you can recognise elements of the Mk IV armour and wargear but it's twisted just enough, just 'organic' enough to be different.
The Dark Vengeance Chosen are a bit too far along the organic route - the Raptors are just about right - you have twisted weaponry, twisted helms, twisted shoulder pads and all. There's the right mix of archaic and corrupted.
I feel that the Thousand Sons also got that right - they're distinctly Chaotic in appearance but you can recognise the Heresy-era armour and weapon patterns. I would include the Death Guard but I feel the sculptor there went way to OTT with horns and tentacles to the extent where they need to be dumped into a pit of octopus and boar tusks to get over their fetish.
Essentialy what I want to see is the Raptor-style aesthetic. Where the armour has a distinct nod to Heresy marks but is just corrupted enough with semi-organic ridges or growths to be be something 'else'. As Fhanados said - it's a dialing down of the DV Chosen.
Picture the current CSM at a scale of 0, the DV Chosen at 10 and we're aiming for Raptor Standard - so between 4 and 6.
I hope the Heresy armour mark designs continue - I'd love to see World Eaters end up with Mk V kits with studs, spikes, piping and hybrid marks of armour...and I'd love to see the EC be another Mk IV based force with their kits.
And if they ever get round to generic CSM? Design our vehicles closer to the Deimos aesthetic - give us rounder sponsons and turrents, corrupted of course with semi-organic growths and rends in the hull. Make the generic CSM kit a hybrid one that combines elements of Mk III, Mk IV and Mk V. Maybe even spoil us and throw in some Mk VI and Mk VII bits (just as the Tactical squad as the odd bit and piece from older marks - give us the odd bit and piece from newer marks).
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2018/01/24 00:56:15
Subject: What would you want more Chaos Undivided Marines to look like?
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Pestilent Plague Marine with Blight Grenade
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Dark Vengeance is a good starting point for CSM, it was a shame they didn't continue with it and released a new CSM box set following that same design (for now)
What I'd really like to see is a units with salvaged armour from different marks etc to represent the Long War and that they are scrounging together different armour joints just to stay operational (like in the Night Lords series by ADB)
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"Courage and Honour. I hear you murmur these words in the mist, in their wake I hear your hearts beat harder with false conviction seeking to convince yourselves that a brave death has meaning.
There is no courage to be found here my nephews, no honour to be had. Your souls will join the trillion others in the mist shrieking uselessly to eternity, weeping for the empire you could not save.
To the unfaithful, I bring holy plagues ripe with enlightenment. To the devout, I bring the blessing of immortality through the kiss of sacred rot.
And to you, new-born sons of Gulliman, to you flesh crafted puppets of a failing Imperium I bring the holiest gift of all.... Silence."
- Mortarion, The Death Lord, The Reaper of Men, Daemon Primarch of Nurgle
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2018/01/24 02:06:35
Subject: What would you want more Chaos Undivided Marines to look like?
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Pious Palatine
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I'd like them to look the same as Squats: nonexistent. Too much chaos, do not need more.
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2018/01/24 02:12:13
Subject: What would you want more Chaos Undivided Marines to look like?
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Commander of the Mysterious 2nd Legion
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ERJAK wrote:I'd like them to look the same as Squats: nonexistent. Too much chaos, do not need more.
anyone who player IoM armies really shouldn't have any right to stay that
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Opinions are not facts please don't confuse the two |
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2018/01/24 02:20:46
Subject: What would you want more Chaos Undivided Marines to look like?
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Savage Khorne Berserker Biker
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Meh, everyone has a voice at the table. Not like GW is going to read this thread and do anything about it.
@DarkStar: I like the raptors aesthetic, too. Combining that with the things I like (horns, skulls, spikes) would be perfection for me.
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2018/01/24 02:41:45
Subject: What would you want more Chaos Undivided Marines to look like?
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Commander of the Mysterious 2nd Legion
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Wolf_in_Human_Shape wrote:Meh, everyone has a voice at the table. Not like GW is going to read this thread and do anything about it.
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Maybe I just think a IoM player complaining about chaos getting some subfactions is a bit silly.
even assuming a best case scenerio of 1 emp's children and world eaters codex, and a renegades and ehretics codex, that would take chaos up to
7 or so codices. versues how many IoM 'dexes?
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2018/01/24 03:12:17
Subject: What would you want more Chaos Undivided Marines to look like?
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Savage Khorne Berserker Biker
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It seems counterproductive to even give the comment any thought, is my feeling; figured it was some low-tier, weak sauce attempt at trolling. He doesn’t want more chaos releases... cool story, eh?
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2018/01/24 10:17:44
Subject: What would you want more Chaos Undivided Marines to look like?
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Savage Khorne Berserker Biker
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 DarkStarSabre wrote:
What I'd prefer is closer to what the Raptors are at the moment - where they have the 'Marine' Silhouette but are distinctly different - you can recognise elements of the Mk IV armour and wargear but it's twisted just enough, just 'organic' enough to be different.
Yes! I forgot about the raptors. I keep thinking about using them for future chaos marines.
DarkStarSabre wrote:
And if they ever get round to generic CSM? Design our vehicles closer to the Deimos aesthetic - give us rounder sponsons and turrents, corrupted of course with semi-organic growths and rends in the hull. Make the generic CSM kit a hybrid one that combines elements of Mk III, Mk IV and Mk V. Maybe even spoil us and throw in some Mk VI and Mk VII bits (just as the Tactical squad as the odd bit and piece from older marks - give us the odd bit and piece from newer marks).
Also yes!
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2018/01/24 10:22:57
Subject: Re:What would you want more Chaos Undivided Marines to look like?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Elbows wrote:I'll go wildly against the grain here...make them far less ornate. I won't say any more as there is not a chance in hell GW will dial back the silliness/overstyling in future releases. If AoS/Death Guard are any indication the GW styling and I have parted ways. Luckily I have HH plastics.
Wayniac wrote:Personally, I'd rather see them way less blinged out. The Dark Vengeance chosen were cool models, but had way too many small intricacies, filigree and details on them. I'd rather something closer to like 30k MkV armor; bits and pieces of various armor marks, possibly with spiked helmets (to show they are evil) similar to the 30k sons of horus range from forgeworld. Look barbaric and corrupt without lots of ridiculous detail.
Amen. I like cleaner, simpler models. That's why I've put off painting the nurgle half of dark vengeance, I don't want to be rooting around for all the weird little details, but the 30k aesthetic of the regularised armour just resonates so much better for me.
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 iGuy91 wrote:You love the T-Rex. Its both a hero and a Villain in the first two movies. It is the "king" of dinosaurs. Its the best. You love your T-rex.
Then comes along the frakking Spinosaurus who kills the T-rex, and the movie says "LOVE THIS NOW! HE IS BETTER" But...in your heart, you love the T-rex, who shouldn't have lost to no stupid Spinosaurus. So you hate the movie. And refuse to love the Spinosaurus because it is a hamfisted attempt at taking what you loved, making it TREX +++ and trying to sell you it.
 Elbows wrote:You know what's better than a psychic phase? A psychic phase which asks customers to buy more miniatures... 
the_scotsman wrote:Dae think the company behind such names as deathwatch death guard deathskullz death marks death korps deathleaper death jester might be bad at naming?
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2018/01/24 10:46:28
Subject: What would you want more Chaos Undivided Marines to look like?
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Warplord Titan Princeps of Tzeentch
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I actually like the current CSM design. it suits them rather well as being a ragtag group of corrupted marines. and that's what most of them currently ARE.
The original legions should be using mostly heresy era style, who is easily available now with BaT and BoP, and TS/DG have their own distinct styles now.
DV style works well for chosen, not for rank-and-file.
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2018/01/24 11:01:07
Subject: What would you want more Chaos Undivided Marines to look like?
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Ancient Chaos Terminator
Surfing the Tervigon Wave...on a baby.
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ERJAK wrote:I'd like them to look the same as Squats: nonexistent. Too much chaos, do not need more.
Sisters of Battle players. LuL.
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2018/01/24 13:53:10
Subject: What would you want more Chaos Undivided Marines to look like?
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Dakka Veteran
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Despite the fact I quite like the current Chaos space marine squad, here's what I'd like a new set to have...
Old marks of marine armour, mixed with each other, looking far more gothic, ie studded pauldrons, chainmail, raised gorgets etc. If someone wants a daemon forming out of the armour this would be an option that could be glued on, likewise spikes, eight pointed stars, grizzly trophy racks etc etc.
What I don't want is armour absolutely festooned with detail, or even worse, monopose marines.
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I've been playing a while, my first model was a lead marine and my first White Dwarf was bound with staples |
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2018/01/24 14:21:17
Subject: What would you want more Chaos Undivided Marines to look like?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I’d like to see extremely ornate, brutal looking models with better scale and more options.
Truthfully though, we will probably be seeing Chaos primaris. Unless they re-do the entire range in that scale and keep the standard units that have been in the lore for decades i.e. tactical, havocs, raptors, I will not be buying them. I don’t want to see this intercessor, aggressor, hellblasted janky gak. Just give me the classics.
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Square Bases for Life!
AoS is pure garbage
Kill Primaris, Kill the Primarchs. They don't belong in 40K
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2018/01/24 19:30:45
Subject: What would you want more Chaos Undivided Marines to look like?
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Bonkers Buggy Driver with Rockets
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Fewer spikes and skulls, more pieced-together armor and simple ornamentation added to armor. Also trophies from previous battles, because it shows their commitment to the Long War.
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40k drinking game: take a shot everytime a book references Skitarii using transports.
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2018/01/24 19:55:58
Subject: What would you want more Chaos Undivided Marines to look like?
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Pyro Pilot of a Triach Stalker
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Dark vengeance style. Indeed, I feel the miss with normal chaos Marines is that they are weaker loyalist versions. They need a differentiation in terms of style and rules.
These are supposed to be 10000 year old veterans of the long war not cannon fodder. I always thought rules wise they should just take the chosen entry and make that the base chaos marine entry. Give them dark vengeance style models and we would be all set.
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2018/01/24 20:57:23
Subject: Re:What would you want more Chaos Undivided Marines to look like?
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Pulsating Possessed Chaos Marine
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I dont get why people say every legion model needs to be in mk 4 armor. Sure most (unless we go by GW space marine fluff where CSM die in the thousands to one marine  ) of them are from the heresy. But over time they have had to make or recruit new marines. If recruited those very marines would be in modern gear. Sure the old marks should be very much standard but id say a good amount should also be recent gear,
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2018/01/25 01:34:18
Subject: What would you want more Chaos Undivided Marines to look like?
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Not as Good as a Minion
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Chaos Marines need to follow two different schemes, one for those who have fought the Long War, and one for those who are relatively new. The Red Corsairs should fit the latter, while the Black Legion and Iron Warriors followed the former.
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