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Sorry, sorry. In my defence I totaly did last time. Wait, how strong is a jet bike gun? Anyways, my response is dethkoptas, two of em. 70 points.



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crap too slow. HAHAHA, as for the kans, hmmmmmmmmmmm, lootas, seven of them. 105 points

DEFILER,150

5 warp spiders, Exarch with twin spinners (127 points)

ability to zip around behind you or even deep strike with eight BS 4 - S 6 shots and four BS 5 - S 6 shots.

Hmm warp spyders eh. I'll play down a vanella Russ, held in reserves till you deepstrike.

Alright, new rule, if you don't post the points, you lose your turn .

As for the spiders, im going to not use any eldar units for as long as possible,

Dark Eldar Archon- 135 points
Shadow Field, 2++ save
Combat Drugs, 12" charge range/+1 Attack/Re-roll misses/etc.
Tormenter Helm, +1 Attack
Punisher, +1 Str.

That is alot of hurt, most likely you won't kill him before he gets you but... you never know. I have gotten some many turn one assaults with this guy, one actually ended up leaving 50 conscripts and a commissar dead due to combat resolution, heh, one turn, he thought it would tarpit him...

5 Swooping hawks (132)
Exarch w/ sunrifle

14 shots hitting on 2's and 3's
assault 24" range, you'll fail one of those 2+ saves

10x Stormboyz with an 'eavy armored PK Nob; 160.

I chase you down with my 12+1d6" move, then gut you in assault.

10 dire avengers (167)
exarch, twin catapults, bladestorm and defend

move 6" and shoot 18" giving me an effective range of 24" pumping out 32 shots with good accuracy.
if you do manage to make it to combat... my higher initiative and you at -1A should pull me through.

7 Pathfinders- 168 points

Heh, a 2+ cover save basically negates your shuripults, and I just shoot kill pin, shoot kill pin, shoot kill pin.

dayve110 wrote:10 dire avengers (167)
exarch, twin catapults, bladestorm and defend

move 6" and shoot 18" giving me an effective range of 24" pumping out 32 shots with good accuracy.
if you do manage to make it to combat... my higher initiative and you at -1A should pull me through.

6 Warbikes including a PK Nob (185)

18 TL S5 shots with an effective range of 30" (12" move + 18" range), and a 4+ cover save. Or possible I'd just turbo turn 1, charge turn 2. I won't lose many with a 3+ invulnerable, and in combat I think I'd wreck you. 4 S9 + 20 S4 on the charge.

EDIT: This also works against the Pathfinders.

As for the bikers

Damn, you win... But only because even 1 warbiker could kill 7 pathfinders in HTH, heh.

BeRzErKeR wrote:

dayve110 wrote:10 dire avengers (167)
exarch, twin catapults, bladestorm and defend

move 6" and shoot 18" giving me an effective range of 24" pumping out 32 shots with good accuracy.
if you do manage to make it to combat... my higher initiative and you at -1A should pull me through.

6 Warbikes including a PK Nob (185)

18 TL S5 shots with an effective range of 30" (12" move + 18" range), and a 4+ cover save. Or possible I'd just turbo turn 1, charge turn 2. I won't lose many with a 3+ invulnerable, and in combat I think I'd wreck you. 4 S9 + 20 S4 on the charge.

EDIT: This also works against the Pathfinders.

Fine, I'll go with a deep striking Vendetta. 130 points.

Uh, I'm not sure that would do it, dude. If you move 6" or less in order to shoot at me, 4 S9 attacks hitting on a 4+ will ruin your day. If you move over 6" you can't shoot all that much, and I'm STILL dropping 4 S9 attacks on you every turn. Even hitting on a 6+, one will get through eventually.

Alright, I can beat that,

Hydra Flak Tank-70 pts
Hydra Flak Tank-70 pts




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BeRzErKeR wrote:Uh, I'm not sure that would do it, dude. If you move 6" or less in order to shoot at me, 4 S9 attacks hitting on a 4+ will ruin your day. If you move over 6" you can't shoot all that much, and I'm STILL dropping 4 S9 attacks on you every turn. Even hitting on a 6+, one will get through eventually.

Alright, but what makes you think he will let you get in range, he moves faster, and he would deep strike, lending him an advantage, b/c even if you were in the middle of the board, to decrease the max. range away from you, that is still over 3 ft. which the orks won't make it to, sadly, orks can't beat everything....

Inquisitor_Syphonious wrote:

Alright, but what makes you think he will let you get in range, he moves faster, and he would deep strike, lending him an advantage, b/c even if you were in the middle of the board, to decrease the max. range away from you, that is still over 3 ft. which the orks won't make it to, sadly, orks can't beat everything....

I turbo-boost 24", move 12", then assault 6". Boom, I'm in range, and for the one turn when he gets free shots at me, I have a 3+ cover save.

EDIT: Also, if he's moving faster than m, he's not shooting. That's fine with me, the board's only so big, I'll happily chase him around till doomsday. And if I start to fall behind too badly, I turboboost again, right up next to him. Max move is 18", which by a happy coincidence is my assault range. He can't possibly get away, and if he's trying to he can't possibly kill me.

Alright, he deep-strikes, shoots, kills 2 boys, make a LD. test, blah blah blah pass. you move up, he kills one, you miss with everything, he kills two boyz, you get a hit, you score a penetrating, if you don't get a 5 or 6, game over.

That really depends. DOES he kill two boyz first turn? 4+ cover, remember, then 3+ cover on turn 2, he shoots, kills one more, but all that matters is the Nob. If he's moving 12" per turn, his average kill rate is NOT 1 bike per turn; 1 weapon, not a 100% chance to hit, not a 100% chance to wound, and a 50% to ignore it anyway. So that means he has to be moving 6" (unless he's sitting still, which would be dumb), meaning I reach him on the second turn. 4 attacks, 2 hits (not 1), most likely 2 pens as it's S9 against rear armor, and anything above shaken is fine in my book. Actually stunned would be the best bar a destroyed result, since it keeps him from moving or shooting an guarantees 3 S9 hits next turn.

Alright, he deep strikes shoots 3 Las-cannons its a 3+ re-rollable to hit, so every 1/6 fails to hit, its str 9 so every 1/6 fails to wound. So he shoots, 3 hit, 2 wound, 1 dead ork. next turn, you turbo-boost. He shoots, 2 hit, 2 wound 1 die. you move up charge fail to hit with all. He moves back, shoots, hits 3, 2 wound, 2 dead orks. next turn, you move up, you hit with one, 3 glances, so let's assume penatrate. If you don't get a 5 or 6, he moves back and kills you. Odds are in his favor.


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BeRzErKeR wrote:

Inquisitor_Syphonious wrote:

Max move is 18", which by a happy coincidence is my assault range.

Tsk Tsk Tsk... unless you are touching him, it is not within range, and you could not touch him without assaulting, which you cannot if you turbo-boost.

Inquisitor_Syphonious wrote:Alright, he deep strikes shoots 3 Las-cannons its a 3+ re-rollable to hit, so every 1/6 fails to hit, its str 9 so every 1/6 fails to wound. So he shoots, 3 hit, 2 wound, 1 dead ork. next turn, you turbo-boost. He shoots, 2 hit, 2 wound 1 die. you move up charge autohit with 4 S9 PKs because he didn't move and BOOM.

Fixed it for you.

EDIT: But in any case this argument is silly.

3x kannons (78)
-3x extra krew
-3x ammo runts

3x kannons (78)
-3x extra krew
-3x ammo runts

I think that takes care of it nicely.

Warwalker-40
2 ShuriCannons

Warwalker-40
2 ShuriCannons

Warwalker-40
2 ShuriCannons

Warwalker-40
2 ShuriCannons

160

Outflank FTW

Kogwar wrote:The first unit is a 5 man squad of assault terminators 3 with lightning claws and 2 with thunder hammers with Padro cantor so it is 375 have fun

9 Chaos Terminators all with lightning claws & Icon of Slaneesh is also 375 points.
That's 27 Initiative 5 lightling claws attacks to get past if you charge the unit.

Ugh... BeRzErKeR, he can simply dodge 6" side to side without any penalty making you need to hit rules, and I believe there is a rule pertaining to hitting a valkyrie even if it does not move, I mean it is a gunship...

As for the walkers,

Nevermind, that unit was fail. I really don't want to pick a high AV tank, but warwalkers are just so full of win.

Aha, without further ado.

5 Chaos Space Marine Terminators
Reaper Auto Cannon

Dude i think schadenfreude beat you to it, so ,my answer to schadenfreude's unit is 2 demolisher style laman russes with mm sponsons 390 points.
Oh dang wait ok guys from now on please check what the most recent post is before responding or else we get confusion like this.

Kogwar wrote:Dude i think schadenfreude beat you to it, so ,my answer to schadenfreude's unit is 2 demolisher style laman russes with mm sponsons 390 points.
Oh dang wait ok guys from now on please check what the most recent post is before responding or else we get confusion like this.

I wasn't posting about the original one, are we restarting? I forgot to post the points, damnit, 175 points...

Termies are about 165pts?

Then Madgod Says:

A Leman Russ Demolisher

Because Madgod is a dick.

Someone else does points because Madgod does not have his codexi with him in India.

Madgod wrote:Termies are about 165pts?

Then Madgod Says:

A Leman Russ Demolisher

Because Madgod is a dick.

Someone else does points because Madgod does not have his codexi with him in India.

I would go back to my lovely warbikers, but I should think of something else. . .

ok, 3 Nobz with PKs in a RPJ trukk. That's 180 points.

2 heavy destroyers, 130

I pop your trukk and then your nobz can have fun catching me

Deth koptas, 4 for 140 points, turbo boost turn one, beat the outa stuff turn two.

3 landspeeders with 2 heavy flamers each deep stike next to you and share the hot love. 180

Warwalkers... so... tempting...

Predator-85
Autocannon, Heavy bolter sponsons

Predator-85
Autocannon, Heavy bolter sponsons

Total: 170 points

Too much for your AV 10 to withstand