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"Victim" is a strong word. Someone who gets raped or mugged or murdered is a victim. A girl in a skimpy outfit who gets oggled is not.

 daedalus wrote:

 Manchu wrote:

 daedalus wrote:
You mean that part where ...

No I mean the part where you interpreted the case of Caruso being sexually harassed as the case of Caruso intentionally entrapping less sophisticated people and, being unsatisfied with their attention, deceived the media so she could get more attention.

Can you highlight the part where I condoned or endorsed their (the nerds) behavior?

Where in my statement that you quoted do I accuse you of condoning or endorsing their behavior? What I said is that you twisted this story about a woman getting sexually harassed into a story of a woman who is taking advantage of nerds and the media to get attention. It's not quite the same thing, to your very limited credit, even if it reaches very much in the same direction. In other words, you're not saying they're great guys. But you are saying she's a narcissistic bitch.

 Manchu wrote:
You're missing the point. The point is not "I won't get caught." The point is "don't rape people." Don't rape them, don't sexually harass them, don't be a jerkwad generally.

it weren't for the topic, that would sigworthy.

 Frazzled wrote:

 Manchu wrote:
You're missing the point. The point is not "I won't get caught." The point is "don't rape people." Don't rape them, don't sexually harass them, don't be a jerkwad generally.

it weren't for the topic, that would sigworthy.

The problem being a distinct lack of people in this thread saying it was okay to rape people. They weren't.

 Testify wrote:

mattyrm wrote: As I said above, i've only ever had sex with girls I was in a relationship with or very close to.

OK , that could be misinterpreted...

 Testify wrote:
The problem being a distinct lack of people in this thread saying it was okay to rape people. They weren't.

No need for confusion.

People in this thread have definitely not explicitly said that sexual harassment is okay.

What they have said is that it isn't that serious, it's often the fault of the person who is harassed, and people who are harassed shouldn't make a big deal of it.

So it's not that it's okay; it's just that it's no big deal?

 Frazzled wrote:

 Manchu wrote:
You're missing the point. The point is not "I won't get caught." The point is "don't rape people." Don't rape them, don't sexually harass them, don't be a jerkwad generally.

it weren't for the topic, that would sigworthy.

We need to sig statements about basic human decency now?


The point wasn't "he probably won't be able to prove you did it", the point was "You probably shouldn't steal your neighbors dog and roast it alive in your oven". Is that a sig worthy?

I think this thread has run its course.