Adeptus Astartes

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Looks like the new dread is decidedly bigger =-)

-Aaron

Sadly the Alan Bligh, emperor of 30k wasnt there, I enjoyed my chat last time too with him.

Andy hoare and mark Bedford I chatted to. And always do. Andy with the rules bits, and mark made me want to buy the sold out leviathan!
He is looking forward to reviving his blood Angels from 2/3 years ago soon he says.
They are really a good duo (apart from the sangy joke, I will take the Mick next time!)

It's quite evident that gw seems to have minimal to 0 respect for their fan base, it was almost an air of contempt or 'worship me' whereas the fw guys seem a good bunch to chat to and a laugh.
Not gw bashing here no, but a contrast in the two 'sides' of the coin.
A few chats let me conclude that fw staff and designers generally don't like 40k rules and the way it is run over there.

They all work together and develop rules and the model itself together rather than work separately on something they may not be interested in.
So the old gw and fw are the same isn't true, they may have top brass in charge, but allowed to run independently of each other, which is something I think works very well.

The primarchs development books were massive, and shows just how much background they go into developing models. Bl clips, pics or people chopping wood etc (ferrus pose) for an emperors son, I'd expect no less and makes me feel that the price tag is worth it completely.

I took notes throughout the day and jotted my memory. I wrote some bits I thought about how the 40k designers designed rules, but refrained from posting lol

nudibranch wrote:
Huh, weird base size. Seems larger than a dreadnought base and smaller than that of a tyranocyte. Is it new or just off-brand?

 zedmeister wrote:
New Eldar Knight

 Malika2 wrote:
What's the model in the bottom of the picture?

Spoiler:

Spoiler:

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
I love how they all seem to be 30s or so, except for that one guy at the bottom who looks like he's 17.

 BrookM wrote:

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
I love how they all seem to be 30s or so, except for that one guy at the bottom who looks like he's 17.

You mean Mharaid Morrison? That's not a bloke.

 Bronzefists42 wrote:
I love Eldar Corsairs and have always mused on doing an army of them.

Out of curiosity is it fair to have a burning grudge against CW Eldar?

 zedmeister wrote:
Interesting comments posted by Theredknight of B&C, especially the bolded part. I suspected that myself, privately.

A few chats let me conclude that fw staff and designers generally don't like 40k rules and the way it is run over there.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

 zedmeister wrote:
Interesting comments posted by Theredknight of B&C, especially the bolded part. I suspected that myself, privately.

A few chats let me conclude that fw staff and designers generally don't like 40k rules and the way it is run over there.

That doesn't surprise me - a lot of players don't like rules, either!

From the seminar:
They basically stick the model on the table, having never seen it before and get told 'make some rules for it'
So they see a support thing on a leg and think 'that it'd be cool if it shoots all its weapons twice..oh and it'd be cool to take in units of 3. But they can't attack in combat if they have used them, but I did think about letting it use the stand as a cc attack. But no, that'd make them op, so we won't do that, their weakness is that a unit of terminator space marines could slaughter it/ them in combat'

Thats the actual mindset of them, I was sat there thinking, wow.. Do you even play this game? How would you even manage to get near those gun platforms, and survive the 5+hitting on over Watch and other things?

They openly admitted that they don't plan codex updates in conjunction with others in mind or what the codex itself needs, so an army could do with assault units, no, they will do as they please.

Codex now are a 'design team' effort. And the likes of one designer doing an army he really liked (crons were used as an example here) are mostly gone. However those old favourites are still involved (sigh for some)
If they are not interested in the army it was lack lustre (tyranids example) if they loved the army they would be powerful (crons)
To be honest, most of the newer codex have been on a similar over the top rules together. Strength d all over the place makes it hard to enjoy playing against them, we've all been there. It's why we shift to 30k now,

They admit that they leave it open to abuse because 'you can't stop everyone wanting to power game' I think nowadays it is a lot more common than say,4 years ago, with all the d shenanigans and invisible Death Star units and assaulting from deep strike things like sky hammer. But it is all 'cool' to do.

 Malika2 wrote:

Spoiler:

 Dinamarth wrote:
I was waiting at least a month in hopes of a Primarch reveal like Dorn or Corax. I mean Garro was a surprise and very cool but damn.

 Tannhauser42 wrote:

 Malika2 wrote:

Spoiler:

They misspelled Alan Bligh's title. It should properly read as "The Man Who Should Have Alan Merrett's Job".

 Co'tor Shas wrote:

 BrookM wrote:

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
I love how they all seem to be 30s or so, except for that one guy at the bottom who looks like he's 17.

You mean Mharaid Morrison? That's not a bloke.

Wait, really? I feel dumb now.

 Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
The leviathan to me looks more like a contemptor crossed with a helbrute. The curved armor plates seem more reminiscent of an unmutated helbrute rather than the standard loyalist washing machine dread. The Relic of Darkness special rule kind of suggests that the two might be related as well.

 Haighus wrote:
The GW strategy for playtesting and rules creation just looks horrible. Like what I would do if I was designing rules for a kitbashed model when I was about 13.

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
from facebook

-Aaron