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What do you think is going to happen next in this ongoing campaign?

Story so far- vigilus is a crucial world that is one of the only routes into the imperium nihilus. This makes it extremely important to the imperium, and to any other faction.

-a relatively small genestealer uprising is mostly dealt with by small kill teams of adeptus mechanics.

- this uprising turns into something far, far larger and the world is in desperate need of support. A company of space wolves answer.

-a large waaagh! reaches vigilus, but the orks cannot attack the cities so resort to racing amongst themselves, turning into a huge speedwaaagh!

-the eldar of saim-hann forsee disaster on vigilus, and dispatch a force to destroy the threat. This is mistaken by some imperial soldiers as an attack, and ultramarines arrive as reinforcements.


So, at this point the world is devastated by war. It looks like it could be another Armageddon imo and it is clear the story will be taken further. What do you think is going to happen next, and what new things will come with that?

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With the rumors of an upcoming boxset with a shiny new model for Abby himself I expect the next development to be a Black Legion incursion.
   
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 Arachnofiend wrote:
With the rumors of an upcoming boxset with a shiny new model for Abby himself I expect the next development to be a Black Legion incursion.


It is not a bad shout but I think they will use Vigilus as a plot device to introduce the Emporers Children including Fulgrim. You have Eldar running around, yep Slaanesh likes those soul stones and Ultramarines turning up. If Bob G arrives as well he has prior history with Fulgrim so Fulgrim may come along to finish the job properly this time.

Pure speculation on my part though.

Also, wasn't there mention of a rumour a while ago of some big battle royale involving a number of races and Angron? People were saying that would be Armageddon part 4 or some such. Not so sure it is Armageddon now that Vigilus is escalating rapidly.

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It de-escalates and GW pick a new setting for their next box. It's already comically crowded

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 SHUPPET wrote:
It de-escalates and GW pick a new setting for their next box. It's already comically crowded


It's Armageddon 2.0.

   
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Reminds me a hell of a lot of Dawn of War Dark Crusade where every race dukes it out. A bit silly in my opinion, maybe it would have made more sense to make it a system of planets rather than just one.

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It's the start of Abbadon's 13th Black Crusade... MK IV.

Took him three tries to blow up Cadia. How many do you think it will take to blow up Vigilus?

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I guess the size of the planet should be taken in consideration.

If they're gonna have all these factions there it better be the size of jupiter at least.

But yeah I agree it seems like an Armageddon 2.0, probably cause it's gonna get messed up by Angron
   
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I'd prefer if they at least had it be an entire solar system or multiple systems. There is way to much going on one planet.
   
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 NoiseMarine with Tinnitus wrote:
 Arachnofiend wrote:
With the rumors of an upcoming boxset with a shiny new model for Abby himself I expect the next development to be a Black Legion incursion.


It is not a bad shout but I think they will use Vigilus as a plot device to introduce the Emporers Children including Fulgrim. You have Eldar running around, yep Slaanesh likes those soul stones and Ultramarines turning up. If Bob G arrives as well he has prior history with Fulgrim so Fulgrim may come along to finish the job properly this time.

Pure speculation on my part though.

Also, wasn't there mention of a rumour a while ago of some big battle royale involving a number of races and Angron? People were saying that would be Armageddon part 4 or some such. Not so sure it is Armageddon now that Vigilus is escalating rapidly.

The nice thing about a Black Legion incursion is that the whole of Chaos is invited. They could use the setting for both the BL and the EC boxsets. Very convenient from the story writers' perspective.
   
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The planet gets trashed but the Imperium flag flies over the pile of rubble is my expected outcome.

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 Arachnofiend wrote:
 NoiseMarine with Tinnitus wrote:
 Arachnofiend wrote:
With the rumors of an upcoming boxset with a shiny new model for Abby himself I expect the next development to be a Black Legion incursion.


It is not a bad shout but I think they will use Vigilus as a plot device to introduce the Emporers Children including Fulgrim. You have Eldar running around, yep Slaanesh likes those soul stones and Ultramarines turning up. If Bob G arrives as well he has prior history with Fulgrim so Fulgrim may come along to finish the job properly this time.

Pure speculation on my part though.

Also, wasn't there mention of a rumour a while ago of some big battle royale involving a number of races and Angron? People were saying that would be Armageddon part 4 or some such. Not so sure it is Armageddon now that Vigilus is escalating rapidly.

The nice thing about a Black Legion incursion is that the whole of Chaos is invited. They could use the setting for both the BL and the EC boxsets. Very convenient from the story writers' perspective.


I agree. If it brings more Chaos goodies - along with Black Fortress - all for it!

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 Crazyterran wrote:
The planet gets trashed but the Imperium flag flies over the pile of rubble is my expected outcome.


thats a win for the IoM honestly, the world's important due to it's location more then anything else.

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It turns out the planet is creating the 'safe' corridor because it's full of buried pylons and Necron tombs. Having seen this, Failbaddon, who supposedly wants to rule material realm without the interference of chaos gods, arrives to dump even more realspace into warp, only to lose yet another irreplaceable superweapon and to have his ass spanked by something even more embarassing than the girl from last time. As he is about to be shanked by Grot or something, blinding flash appears over the planet surface.

The 'lost' Tau 4th exansion fleet has arrived, accompanied by even bigger Kroot fleet (surprise new codex drop complete with SoB vs Kroot starter box, just because).

Tau execute combat drop, blasting orks and black legion mooks by the billions as they always do in their books, only for the planet to suddenly freeze mid-move.

Camera slowly pans out, revealing world frozen in stasis, only to focus on...

Spoiler:
   
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 Irbis wrote:
It turns out the planet is creating the 'safe' corridor because it's full of buried pylons and Necron tombs. Having seen this, Failbaddon, who supposedly wants to rule material realm without the interference of chaos gods, arrives to dump even more realspace into warp, only to lose yet another irreplaceable superweapon and to have his ass spanked by something even more embarassing than the girl from last time. As he is about to be shanked by Grot or something, blinding flash appears over the planet surface.

The 'lost' Tau 4th exansion fleet has arrived, accompanied by even bigger Kroot fleet (surprise new codex drop complete with SoB vs Kroot starter box, just because).

Tau execute combat drop, blasting orks and black legion mooks by the billions as they always do in their books, only for the planet to suddenly freeze mid-move.

Camera slowly pans out, revealing world frozen in stasis, only to focus on...

Spoiler:

We get it dude, you frequent 4chan
   
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 Arachnofiend wrote:
With the rumors of an upcoming boxset with a shiny new model for Abby himself I expect the next development to be a Black Legion incursion.

Our Martyred Lady vs Black Legion? Yas!
I Kind of wanted to see The Lion return and do more of a Fallen/DA arc before that. But... *shrug*

   
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 Arachnofiend wrote:
We get it dude, you frequent 4chan

Funny, because there are few places with their own particular brand of dumb I despise more. Maybe you should have directed that at whoever wrote the (comically dumb and contradicting literally every single thing about Black Legion made earlier) Chaos part of Gathering Storm I?
   
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Hoping this setting gives the Admech a reason to bust out the good tech. FW robots given 8th edition rules! I just started collecting them so I'm very biased.

Why they didn't do that for Cadia will be difficult to answer.

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France

 Arachnofiend wrote:
 Irbis wrote:
It turns out the planet is creating the 'safe' corridor because it's full of buried pylons and Necron tombs. Having seen this, Failbaddon, who supposedly wants to rule material realm without the interference of chaos gods, arrives to dump even more realspace into warp, only to lose yet another irreplaceable superweapon and to have his ass spanked by something even more embarassing than the girl from last time. As he is about to be shanked by Grot or something, blinding flash appears over the planet surface.

The 'lost' Tau 4th exansion fleet has arrived, accompanied by even bigger Kroot fleet (surprise new codex drop complete with SoB vs Kroot starter box, just because).

Tau execute combat drop, blasting orks and black legion mooks by the billions as they always do in their books, only for the planet to suddenly freeze mid-move.

Camera slowly pans out, revealing world frozen in stasis, only to focus on...

Spoiler:

We get it dude, you frequent 4chan

We have to agree that everyting he wrote is not only credible, but alas possible. And it would be top tier fluffl from GW

   
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I get the Armageddon parallels, but its also the new Cadia - the world guards the one stable corridor through the warp between the two halves of the Imperium.

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 NoiseMarine with Tinnitus wrote:
 Arachnofiend wrote:
 NoiseMarine with Tinnitus wrote:
 Arachnofiend wrote:
With the rumors of an upcoming boxset with a shiny new model for Abby himself I expect the next development to be a Black Legion incursion.


It is not a bad shout but I think they will use Vigilus as a plot device to introduce the Emporers Children including Fulgrim. You have Eldar running around, yep Slaanesh likes those soul stones and Ultramarines turning up. If Bob G arrives as well he has prior history with Fulgrim so Fulgrim may come along to finish the job properly this time.

Pure speculation on my part though.

Also, wasn't there mention of a rumour a while ago of some big battle royale involving a number of races and Angron? People were saying that would be Armageddon part 4 or some such. Not so sure it is Armageddon now that Vigilus is escalating rapidly.

The nice thing about a Black Legion incursion is that the whole of Chaos is invited. They could use the setting for both the BL and the EC boxsets. Very convenient from the story writers' perspective.


I agree. If it brings more Chaos goodies - along with Black Fortress - all for it!



This is what I'm expecting to be honest. Vigilus is really the forgotten ruins of a Blackstone Fortress and the all the fighting from various factions will reveal it attracting Black Legion to the planet - would also tie in nicely with the Warhammer Quest boxed set coming out end of the year too.


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To the unfaithful, I bring holy plagues ripe with enlightenment. To the devout, I bring the blessing of immortality through the kiss of sacred rot.
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I actually like that with the Vigilus fluff there is reason for a lot of different factions to be in the area. Many of their famous warzones are supposed to be one certain group versus another, but because they don't want people to feel left out they poorly throw in reasons why every single other faction is also there.

Vigilus still feels contrived, but a lot less so than many of the other warzones IMO (at least when it comes to why everyone and their space dog is there).

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thing is as an important corridor EVERYONE needs Vigilus, with the exception of the Eldar and Necrons (who use the webway) Vigiulus is strategicly critical to just about everyone. and even the necrons and Eldar likely have an intreast in who controls it.

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If there is a Blackstone fortress there then both the Eldar and Necrons have plenty of reason to want a piece of the action
   
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Perfect opportunity to redo the chaos bikes and toss in a light vehicle.
   
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Would bet money the next summer campaign is fate of vigilus.

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 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Would bet money the next summer campaign is fate of vigilus.


I'll take that bet. after the 13th black crusade event GW seems to have learned not to put the fate of their gsetting in the hands of the players. I suspect Vigilis is gonna exist as a long time warzone, and the campaigns will focus on other flashpoints etc. if I was betting I'd bet on it being a fightagainst the emperor's children who wanna start their own real space empire (everyone else is doing it, but Slaanish has been notably absent)

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Think it would have made more sense and offered more opportunity if it had been the Vigilus system/sector as opposed to one planet.

This would enable them to get the whole 40k experience into one range of effectively unlimited expendable planets comprised of everything from deathworld to forgeworld and everything between.

Right now i see their only option story-wise as being BATTLE ROYALE on the galaxy's biggest planet
   
 
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