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Freaky Flayed One




Hey everyone,

I'm looking for opinions on a possible list for a tournament in May. I'll need to buy, build and paint a fair few units for whichever list I build, so looking to figure out which direction to go early.

Healthy Balanced Diet Sautekh Necrons

Battalion:
Imotekh the Stormlord
Cryptek: Canoptek Cloak, The Abyssal Staff

10 x Immortals
10 x Immortals
10 x Immortals

1 x Nightbringer

6 x Wraiths
3 x Scarabs

Spearhead:
1 x Lord: Hyperphase Sword, Veil of Darkness

1 x DDA
1 x DDA
1 x DDA

What do you think? I had Destroyers over the Wraiths in the first draft, but I feel like the combat flank of wraiths and Nightbringer gives me some flexibility. The DDA triplets are standard at this point, and Imotekh make sense with the 3 x Immortals plus his storm is a nice psuedo smite. Any ideas for changes? The tournament was described to me as 'competitive, but not insane' so not expecting to run into 100% grossness, but I'm pretty sure it'll be Knights a go-go. However it will also essentially be modified versions of the new CA missions, so Knights have their own problems.

Anyway, yeah, what do you think?

P.s. some tournament rules here. They don't hugely affect this list, but do affect what I'll run into:

• Battle forged matched play armies only, of at most 3 Detachments
• One detachment must be chosen as the primary detachment
• The Primary Detachment must be the detachment with the highest points value
• The Warlord must be in the Primary Detachment
• ONE special Character may be taken per army
(The Gellarpox and Farstriders do not count as special characters for this purpose)
• Warlord Traits and Relics can only be used by the Primary Detachment
• Army Specific Stratagems can ONLY be used from the codex of the Primary Detachment
(So the main rulebook ones can be used by the whole army)

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t.dot

I'd consider changing one of the Doomsday Arks to a Tesseract Ark, if you can find the points. The ability to have one of your anti-tank units move without severely reducing it's damage output gives you a bit more mobility in an army that a) has to castle (Immotekh + Cryptek + 30 Immortals for 5++ Chrono, RP boost, and MWBD) and b) remain immobile (DDAs) to fire at full effect.

I would still say Destroyers over Wraiths, but that's a personal preference of mine; I have a very hard time not taking 6 Destroyers in ever Necron list I write (but I really should give it a shot sometime).

I'm assuming you're taking Immortal Pride for Imotekh as well.

   
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 DV8 wrote:
I'd consider changing one of the Doomsday Arks to a Tesseract Ark, if you can find the points. The ability to have one of your anti-tank units move without severely reducing its damage output gives you a bit more mobility in an army that a) has to castle (Immotekh + Cryptek + 30 Immortals for 5++ Chrono, RP boost, and MWBD) and b) remain immobile (DDAs) to fire at full effect.

I would still say Destroyers over Wraiths, but that's a personal preference of mine; I have a very hard time not taking 6 Destroyers in ever Necron list I write (but I really should give it a shot sometime).

I'm assuming you're taking Immortal Pride for Imotekh as well.


Yeah, I may swing back to the destroyers, but I'll do some play-testing on that. Wraiths are just a fantastic road-block, which is something the list otherwise lacks. The Tesseract Ark is an interesting shout. Again, I'll playtest that before I buy the third Ark.

Imotekh has to take the Sautekh trait (CP farm) and you only get his +1 CP if you take him as Warlord, so stuck there. But honestly, I don't think you need Immortal Pride unless you're rocking warriors blobs. The CP is mainly going to be used for Ark rerolls and the odd tech choice stratagem (Wraiths adv and charge, wraiths reanimation, solar pulse, Smite scarabs etc). There isn't much in in the list that demands CP to function.
   
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does nightbringer count as a special character?
   
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Tricktock wrote:
does nightbringer count as a special character?


That's a good point, I'll have to check. I wouldn't have thought so, but it does say you can only bring him once per army.

If he does, I can make him a Transcendent with a few alterations I guess.
   
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Shropshire UK

With the tournament rules, would suggest putting the doomsdays in the same detachment, drop the Lord and night bringer, and see about getting two triarch stalkers

that way, you can get your immortals and doomsdays rerolling. and use all good strats on anything in the army

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Germany

 DV8 wrote:
I'd consider changing one of the Doomsday Arks to a Tesseract Ark, if you can find the points.


I wouldnt. A Tark is inferior to a DDA when it comes to anti tank.

 DV8 wrote:

I would still say Destroyers over Wraiths, but that's a personal preference of mine; I have a very hard time not taking 6 Destroyers in ever Necron list I write (but I really should give it a shot sometime).


Destroyers only get to kill one enemy unit with EP. Then your opponent realizes how dangerous they are, and wipes them out. Wraith suffer the same fate, but they need much more firepower to kill them.


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moonsmite wrote:
With the tournament rules, would suggest putting the doomsdays in the same detachment, drop the Lord and night bringer, and see about getting two triarch stalkers

that way, you can get your immortals and doomsdays rerolling. and use all good strats on anything in the army


I party agree, but i would go with one stalker and use the rest of the points on scarabs.

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Hamburg

Well, I would agree here with pfreak that Wraiths are superior to Destroyers, especially if you have firepower elsewhere (here in the form of DDAs).

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IanVanCheese wrote:
Tricktock wrote:
does nightbringer count as a special character?


That's a good point, I'll have to check. I wouldn't have thought so, but it does say you can only bring him once per army.

If he does, I can make him a Transcendent with a few alterations I guess.

Nightbringer and deceiver are both unique named characters.
for the mortal wounds potential I'd say he's worth keeping more than Stormlord .. drop him for an overlord and use the stratagem to buff your immortals
   
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Hamburg

Well, I'd prefer the Deceiver over the Nightbringer any day
as he allows to reposition part of the army before the battle begins.
This may give you a tactical advantage over the enemy which should not be neglected.

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 wuestenfux wrote:
Well, I'd prefer the Deceiver over the Nightbringer any day
as he allows to reposition part of the army before the battle begins.
This may give you a tactical advantage over the enemy which should not be neglected.


He does, but he's got less punch for more cost too. If I was running more combat or gauss units, I'd definitely be running him to reposition them, but as it stands I really just have a mobile gunline that doesn't need magic-ing up the field. With that said, I've now realised that Nightbringer counts as a character, so I have to choose between Imotekh and Transcendent C'Tan or Overlord and Nightbringer. The second option is a ton cheaper, but at the cost of command points.

As to dropping the Lord and the Nightbringer... I feel like the Mortal wound output of the C'Tan is something I want on the table, not to mention the backup for the Wraiths. With that said, I could drop the Lord and take Imotekh down to just an Overlord, then I might be able to squeeze in a Stalker.

Healthy Balanced Diet Necrons Take 2

Battalion:
Overlord: Warscythe.
Cryptek: Canoptek Cloak, The Abyssal Staff

10 x Immortals
10 x Immortals
10 x Immortals

1 x Triarch Stalker
1 x Nightbringer

5 x Wraiths
7 x Scarabs

1 x DDA
1 x DDA
1 x DDA

8 CP total (could spend one to get the Veil of Darkness on the Overlord, just as a toolbox item).

What do you think? It keeps the combat detachment at mostly full health, while buffing the scarabs wound count and throwing a Stalker in there. Sad to lose the Stormlord, but either him or the Nightbringer had to go anyway. I still have some decent MW output anyway, and can use Phaeron's Will to buff the Immortals.

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What about a list like this?
Spoiler:

++finalpostca++ sautekh (Warhammer 40,000 8th Edition) [105 PL, 1743pts]
Battalion Detachment +5CP (Necrons) [43 PL, 705pts]
No Force Org Slot
Dynasty Choice
Selections: Dynasty: Sautekh

HQ
Imotekh the Stormlord [10 PL, 160pts]
Warlord
Selections: Warlord Trait (Sautekh): Hyperlogical Strategist

Lord [5 PL, 75pts]
Selections: Staff of Light

Troops
Immortals [8 PL, 150pts]
Selections: 10x Immortal, Tesla Carbine

Immortals [8 PL, 120pts]
Selections: 8x Immortal, Tesla Carbine

Immortals [4 PL, 75pts]
Selections: Gauss Blaster, 5x Immortal

Elites
Triarch Stalker [8 PL, 125pts]
Selections: Heat Ray

Spearhead Detachment +1CP (Necrons) [35 PL, 565pts]
No Force Org Slot
Dynasty Choice
Selections: Dynasty: Sautekh

HQ
Cryptek [5 PL, 85pts]
Selections: Canoptek Cloak, Staff of Light

Heavy Support
Doomsday Ark [10 PL, 160pts]
Doomsday Ark [10 PL, 160pts]
Doomsday Ark [10 PL, 160pts]
Outrider Detachment +1CP (Necrons) [27 PL, 473pts]
No Force Org Slot
Dynasty Choice
Selections: Dynasty: Sautekh

HQ
Cryptek [5 PL, 95pts]
Selections: Chronometron, Staff of Light

Fast Attack
Canoptek Scarabs [2 PL, 39pts]
Selections: 3x Canoptek Scarab Swarm

Canoptek Scarabs [2 PL, 39pts]
Selections: 3x Canoptek Scarab Swarm

Destroyers [18 PL, 300pts]
5x Destroyer
Selections: 5x Gauss Cannon

Heavy Destroyer
Selections: Heavy Gauss Cannon


Created with BattleScribe

It cut out the wraiths and nightbringer but I made this list looking for a all around good army
   
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Captinreveng wrote:
What about a list like this?
Spoiler:

++finalpostca++ sautekh (Warhammer 40,000 8th Edition) [105 PL, 1743pts]
Battalion Detachment +5CP (Necrons) [43 PL, 705pts]
No Force Org Slot
Dynasty Choice
Selections: Dynasty: Sautekh

HQ
Imotekh the Stormlord [10 PL, 160pts]
Warlord
Selections: Warlord Trait (Sautekh): Hyperlogical Strategist

Lord [5 PL, 75pts]
Selections: Staff of Light

Troops
Immortals [8 PL, 150pts]
Selections: 10x Immortal, Tesla Carbine

Immortals [8 PL, 120pts]
Selections: 8x Immortal, Tesla Carbine

Immortals [4 PL, 75pts]
Selections: Gauss Blaster, 5x Immortal

Elites
Triarch Stalker [8 PL, 125pts]
Selections: Heat Ray

Spearhead Detachment +1CP (Necrons) [35 PL, 565pts]
No Force Org Slot
Dynasty Choice
Selections: Dynasty: Sautekh

HQ
Cryptek [5 PL, 85pts]
Selections: Canoptek Cloak, Staff of Light

Heavy Support
Doomsday Ark [10 PL, 160pts]
Doomsday Ark [10 PL, 160pts]
Doomsday Ark [10 PL, 160pts]
Outrider Detachment +1CP (Necrons) [27 PL, 473pts]
No Force Org Slot
Dynasty Choice
Selections: Dynasty: Sautekh

HQ
Cryptek [5 PL, 95pts]
Selections: Chronometron, Staff of Light

Fast Attack
Canoptek Scarabs [2 PL, 39pts]
Selections: 3x Canoptek Scarab Swarm

Canoptek Scarabs [2 PL, 39pts]
Selections: 3x Canoptek Scarab Swarm

Destroyers [18 PL, 300pts]
5x Destroyer
Selections: 5x Gauss Cannon

Heavy Destroyer
Selections: Heavy Gauss Cannon


Created with BattleScribe

It cut out the wraiths and nightbringer but I made this list looking for a all around good army


I'd say that list is less all-round than mine. It's all guns. I want to have some combat units and some staying power to give me some ability to hold the middle of the board. Also I'd never bring Imotek without at least 2 full squads or immortals.

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