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Seems like popularity has died down more and more in my area and on the forums since 5 and 6th which seem like the pinnacle of this hobby system.

Biggest tournaments ever.
Record GW profits.
Live-streams and YouTube content a-go-go.

Surrrrre, it’s dying...

 Dalymiddleboro wrote:
Seems like popularity has died down more and more in my area and on the forums since 5 and 6th which seem like the pinnacle of this hobby system.

The plural of anecdote is not data.

While 40k might be dying in your local gaming sphere, it's certainly not on the whole.

A couple of years ago it absolutely was. 6E/7E were brutal on this game, the costs exploded, and the playability/balance were at an absolute low point. This resulted in 40k, at least temporarily, losing its spot as the #1 selling tabletop game for the first time basically...ever, and FFG's X-Wing swept in for a time.

That slide appears to have been arrested with 8th. It would be hard to argue 40k os dying these days.

My city of 250K people went from no 40K-carrying stores(including an official Warhammer store) to four after 8th Edition came out. I know several people that have started since 8th. A lot of Kill Team players (seriously, like dozens of new players), but a lot of new players in general. So I think your situation is fairly unique. Sorry.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
My city of 250K people went from no 40K-carrying stores(including an official Warhammer store) to four after 8th Edition came out. I know several people that have started since 8th. A lot of Kill Team players (seriously, like dozens of new players), but a lot of new players in general. So I think your situation is fairly unique. Sorry.

It has declined a bit in my area as well. I used to be able to go to my FLGS on Tuesdays and find pick up games... not anymore. Also used to be monthly tournaments at that store. Still, there are plenty of tournaments, just all are about an hour or two drive. I'll deal with it, but it's less convenient than it was in 5th edition.

Yes, 40k is dying. You should get ahead of the rush and quit now, before the lines get too long.

Did you mean to type warmachine? Lol

 Peregrine wrote:
Yes, 40k is dying. You should get ahead of the rush and quit now, before the lines get too long.

Here, I'll take your models from you. Hell, I'll even pay for your shipping!

I match your paid shipping and raise you half a granola bar.

 JNAProductions wrote:

 Peregrine wrote:
Yes, 40k is dying. You should get ahead of the rush and quit now, before the lines get too long.

Here, I'll take your models from you. Hell, I'll even pay for your shipping!

But then I'd be rudely cutting in line ahead of the OP. We should wait until they quit and delete their forum account.

 BaconCatBug wrote:
I match your paid shipping and raise you half a granola bar.

I will raise you whatever is in this mystery box.

 Horst wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
My city of 250K people went from no 40K-carrying stores(including an official Warhammer store) to four after 8th Edition came out. I know several people that have started since 8th. A lot of Kill Team players (seriously, like dozens of new players), but a lot of new players in general. So I think your situation is fairly unique. Sorry.

It has declined a bit in my area as well. I used to be able to go to my FLGS on Tuesdays and find pick up games... not anymore. Also used to be monthly tournaments at that store. Still, there are plenty of tournaments, just all are about an hour or two drive. I'll deal with it, but it's less convenient than it was in 5th edition.

I am not doubting that there has been a decline in some areas, but for the most part, 40K as a whole seems to be doing better than it was five years ago when I started.


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 Desubot wrote:

 BaconCatBug wrote:
I match your paid shipping and raise you half a granola bar.

I will raise you whatever is in this mystery box.

Take the box, take the box!

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
I am not doubting that there has been a decline in some areas, but for the most part, 40K as a whole seems to be doing better than it was five years ago when I started.

Agreed, it's just unfortunate if you live in an area where it used to be popular, and now it's less so. Still can find at least 3-4 games a month locally fairly easily though, and at least 1-2 tournaments a month, as long as I'm willing to drive to Canada. Apparently 40k is huge in the Niagra Falls area. Not THAT bad of a drive, so I'm OK with it.

 Dalymiddleboro wrote:
Seems like popularity has died down more and more in my area and on the forums since 5 and 6th which seem like the pinnacle of this hobby system.

8th is doing gangbusters where I live.

is this post for real? It's...definitely...not dying. there were 3,000 more players competing in the ITC last year than the year before. So.

Dakkadakka has garnered a "reputation" which has probably chased some off and averted others whose course might otherwise have brought them to these shores. Some people here like me check in a lot less just because there is kind of a toxic streak going on and anyone who does not subscribe to the groupthink gets badgered. Sign of the times. So the forum might have lost a few, but there's a ton of players and more are coming on board!

My GT has grown in size year after year. We are at capacity without moving it (which is fine honestly, i don't know if I feel like doing more work!).

40K is fine. Way good.

 Horst wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
I am not doubting that there has been a decline in some areas, but for the most part, 40K as a whole seems to be doing better than it was five years ago when I started.

Agreed, it's just unfortunate if you live in an area where it used to be popular, and now it's less so. Still can find at least 3-4 games a month locally fairly easily though, and at least 1-2 tournaments a month, as long as I'm willing to drive to Canada. Apparently 40k is huge in the Niagra Falls area. Not THAT bad of a drive, so I'm OK with it.

Honestly, I almost wonder if this is all a consequence of 7E being poison. Plenty of people I know left when Formations became the norm. I also know a few Eldar players that hated not getting games just by virtue of playing Eldar.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 Horst wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
I am not doubting that there has been a decline in some areas, but for the most part, 40K as a whole seems to be doing better than it was five years ago when I started.

Agreed, it's just unfortunate if you live in an area where it used to be popular, and now it's less so. Still can find at least 3-4 games a month locally fairly easily though, and at least 1-2 tournaments a month, as long as I'm willing to drive to Canada. Apparently 40k is huge in the Niagra Falls area. Not THAT bad of a drive, so I'm OK with it.

Honestly, I almost wonder if this is all a consequence of 7E being poison. Plenty of people I know left when Formations became the norm. I also know a few Eldar players that hated not getting games just by virtue of playing Eldar.

6E had way more fallout. GW ost half its stock pricce at one point and they were writing 7E just a year into 6E

 Dalymiddleboro wrote:
Seems like popularity has died down more and more in my area and on the forums since 5 and 6th which seem like the pinnacle of this hobby system.

Well the fourms are dieing all over the web, not sure why, probably face book.

Also do you happen to be between 25 and 33? If thats the case all the people you started playing with moved away, or had a baby and don't have the time they used to. Take a look at your life son, then either box your armys up for a while or find a couple new gamer groups.

Headlss wrote:

 Dalymiddleboro wrote:
Seems like popularity has died down more and more in my area and on the forums since 5 and 6th which seem like the pinnacle of this hobby system.

Well the fourms are dieing all over the web, not sure why, probably face book.

Also do you happen to be between 25 and 33? If thats the case all the people you started playing with moved away, or had a baby and don't have the time they used to. Take a look at your life son, then either box your armys up for a while or find a couple new gamer groups.

Nah. Teach the game to new people. I got borrower forces for just such occassions andi REGULARLY show people!

the absolute opposite of dying with record sales and tournament attendance.

Far from it. 40k in my area has never had so many players.

The question you should be asking is: "Is DakkaDakka dying?"

And the answer is: Probably.

More people are getting their news from 40k Facebook and Warhammer Community. All of the old rumormongering sites are resorting to even worse clickbait in order to get people to visit. BoLS now does articles across a ton of gaming systems.

A lot of the old toxic forums are going the same way. The new players aren't visiting these forums. They're being directed to the Warhammer Community site and other places that are far more positive.

Of course Dakka isn't dying. The OP himself has no fewer than eight threads on the main page...

 Jancoran wrote:
is this post for real?

As I recall, the Op's user title was 'not that bright' for the longest time.

But going by the op's 'thinking' in my social group, no one owns a PS4 or an Xbox, but multiple NES classics. Therefore, Sony and Microsoft are unpopular and dying, and 8 bit Nintendo with two player, same room only games is the way of the future.

I don't think it is at all, and even if it did die, lots of people like my self would never abandon it because we love it like some people like star wars or some thing. We would just get 40k models else where.

Also with dakka, yes alot of people will be getting there news from big social media websites, but there are also those like my self who cant stand them websites, and prefer some thing like Dakka that's more of a underground dedicated type of fan base.

 Bookwrack wrote:

 Jancoran wrote:
is this post for real?

As I recall, the Op's user title was 'not that bright' for the longest time.

But going by the op's 'thinking' in my social group, no one owns a PS4 or an Xbox, but multiple NES classics. Therefore, Sony and Microsoft are unpopular and dying, and 8 bit Nintendo with two player, same room only games is the way of the future.

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Lol what are you even saying?

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Lol what are you even saying?

I believe he was using Appeal To Extremes to explain his thoughts on the thread topic.

"Because something is popular/unpopular in a specific location doesn't reflect it's popularity in the larger world." Would be another way of putting his console analogy.

From what I understand, wasn't 7th infinitely more complicated?

 Dalymiddleboro wrote:


Lol what are you even saying?

He's casting shade on your post.

If you've been following 40k at all in 8th edition, you would know it and GW in general has had a massive resurgence. Local meta varies of course.