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I mean we knew it was going to happen but still. Going from $50 to $150 is steep. I am kind of wishing I had bought some of the old ones, I'm 3 armies away from needing a couple but...

Probably don't need it, but such a deal.
   
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The old ones will be all over eBay soon I'm sure.
   
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Personally, I think the old one is ridiculously overpriced at $50, for what it is and, yeah, they'll be all over that there t'ebay they have now within weeks of the new one's release.

I'm annoyed that I paid ca. $250 for a centerpiece model that's now the same size as a regular KoS.

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Kabal of The Violet Heart (updated 18/09/19)

You know, if there's one thing I've learnt from being in the Army, it's never ignore a pooh-pooh. I knew a Major who got pooh-poohed; made the mistake of ignoring the pooh-pooh. He pooh-poohed it! Fatal error! 'Cause it turned out all along that the soldier who pooh-poohed him had been pooh-poohing a lot of other officers who pooh-poohed their pooh-poohs. In the end, we had to disband the regiment.
 
   
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Its what the other greater daemon did too.

I was more miffed previously because I bought a crapcast Kairos about a week or two before they even mentioned a new plastic one was coming out.

Fortunately, the previous Keeper was so hideous, I'd never have bought it anyway, still prefer to bull look ones.
   
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How much taller is the new guy?

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Rzhev

Nobody knows for sure I don't think, but I've got some comparison shots.

New KoS and Infernal Enrapturess, from the Community video;



Zarakynel and Daemonette



If we assume the IE, not including the 'harp', is the same height as a Daemonette (I don't own her), then the new KoS looks to be about the same height as Zarakynel/The Violet Heart, who is 6.5" tall at the top of Her left hand's nails.


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The Fall of Kronstaat IV
Война Народная | Voyna Narodnaya | The People's War - 2,898pts painted (updated 18/09/19)
Волшебная Сказка | Volshebnaya Skazka | A Fairy Tale (updated 07/10/19, ep9 - Разорение | Razoreniye | Downfall)
Kabal of The Violet Heart (updated 18/09/19)

You know, if there's one thing I've learnt from being in the Army, it's never ignore a pooh-pooh. I knew a Major who got pooh-poohed; made the mistake of ignoring the pooh-pooh. He pooh-poohed it! Fatal error! 'Cause it turned out all along that the soldier who pooh-poohed him had been pooh-poohing a lot of other officers who pooh-poohed their pooh-poohs. In the end, we had to disband the regiment.
 
   
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You can't compare the price of old technology for new technology. Not just the new plastic moulding tech, the design itself is far and above the original. Plus the model is huge in comparison to the old one as is the detail. Its expensive but not compared to all the other releases. I do think however it should around the £70 mark its current is £85 in the uk can't remember what the old one was cost at.

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Wicked Wych With a Whip







Here is the old one. I guess you are right the new guy looks a lot better.



I was planning on useing her anyway.

I might have to use this lady instead becuase its bigger now.

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Headlss wrote:



Here is the old one. I guess you are right the new guy looks a lot better.


Yeah its ancient, 2nd edition old.

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I'm still glad I've got one of the 2nd generation ones in metal - I plan on using it for a Prince since its comparable in size and now that the new one is out the old keeper is just too small.

All I really have to do is work out if there's any changes I'd like to make to it and if I want to try and put wings on it. Otherwise its a very neat looking model. Though personally I've always prefered its elongated "cow" head over the other head.




And yeah the new one is priced around the same price as the other greater demons, offers several optional weapons and an alternate hero build and its a lot bigger. The mould costs for it will have been vastly greater than for a smaller metal model. So yep its current price is pretty much what most of us were expecting it to be.
Also don't forget it went up in points too, so you won't be able to field "as many" of them in, say, a 2K army as you might have with the older one which was only around 260 points or so.



The only shame is that its sounding like the Exalted is no longer as powerful as it once was, not stands out as much; though I'd still love to own one (even though its headdress gives me nightmares for transporting; its pose is so fine and thin and ALL those tiny spikes to glue on)

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 Overread wrote:

Also don't forget it went up in points too, so you won't be able to field "as many" of them in, say, a 2K army as you might have with the older one which was only around 260 points or so.
)


A KoS was 165pts. The cheapest is now 240pts, the most expensive (non-FW) is 270pts.

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Волшебная Сказка | Volshebnaya Skazka | A Fairy Tale (updated 07/10/19, ep9 - Разорение | Razoreniye | Downfall)
Kabal of The Violet Heart (updated 18/09/19)

You know, if there's one thing I've learnt from being in the Army, it's never ignore a pooh-pooh. I knew a Major who got pooh-poohed; made the mistake of ignoring the pooh-pooh. He pooh-poohed it! Fatal error! 'Cause it turned out all along that the soldier who pooh-poohed him had been pooh-poohing a lot of other officers who pooh-poohed their pooh-poohs. In the end, we had to disband the regiment.
 
   
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Are they worth the extra smashcaptian that they increased? Cause you can buy a lot for 80 points.
   
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Headlss wrote:
Are they worth the extra smashcaptian that they increased? Cause you can buy a lot for 80 points.


"Yes", but that really depends if you can get them where they need to be. Multiple KoS or other distractions will be necessary.

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looks about 3x as good though...?

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About 4k of .

Imperial Knights (Valiant, Warden & Armigers)

Some Misc. Imperium units etc. Assassins...

About 2k of  
   
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 The Forgemaster wrote:
looks about 3x as good though...?


Ten times.

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 Excommunicatus wrote:
A KoS was 165pts. The cheapest is now 240pts, the most expensive (non-FW) is 270pts.

Where did you find the point costs for KoS?
   
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Its 20% more expensive than the Bloodthirster in US$.
Its 40% more expensive than the Bloodthirster in NZ$heep.
   
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Tygre wrote:
Its 20% more expensive than the Bloodthirster in US$.
Its 40% more expensive than the Bloodthirster in NZ$heep.


That's what we call Purchasing Power Parity.
   
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Mchagen wrote:
 Excommunicatus wrote:
A KoS was 165pts. The cheapest is now 240pts, the most expensive (non-FW) is 270pts.

Where did you find the point costs for KoS?


Dark Artisan Battletome Review on youtube though they had the Keeper at 360 points in their summary (the person reading out says 260 first time and then its quickly corrected to 360).

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 Overread wrote:
Mchagen wrote:
 Excommunicatus wrote:
A KoS was 165pts. The cheapest is now 240pts, the most expensive (non-FW) is 270pts.

Where did you find the point costs for KoS?


Dark Artisan Battletome Review on youtube though they had the Keeper at 360 points in their summary (the person reading out says 260 first time and then its quickly corrected to 360).


I saw the page. It's 260.

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 Daedalus81 wrote:
 Overread wrote:
Mchagen wrote:
 Excommunicatus wrote:
A KoS was 165pts. The cheapest is now 240pts, the most expensive (non-FW) is 270pts.

Where did you find the point costs for KoS?


Dark Artisan Battletome Review on youtube though they had the Keeper at 360 points in their summary (the person reading out says 260 first time and then its quickly corrected to 360).


I saw the page. It's 260.


That's pleasingly cheap for such a huge and powerful model!

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I don't even collect Slaanesh and I'm jealous of this model, its looks amazing, the sculptor retained the look, giving it a subtle bulls head but made it far more elegant and androgynous as Slaanesh should be. Like I love my Bloodthirster but it isn't as epic (I hate that word) as the lord of change or the keeper of secrets. The bloodthristers wings mean it has to be small and its pose isn't that dynamic, which is the case for multi-weapon models, like Sanguinius looks terrible with the sword but amazing with the spear. GW should look into that.

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 Overread wrote:
 Daedalus81 wrote:
 Overread wrote:
Mchagen wrote:
 Excommunicatus wrote:
A KoS was 165pts. The cheapest is now 240pts, the most expensive (non-FW) is 270pts.

Where did you find the point costs for KoS?


Dark Artisan Battletome Review on youtube though they had the Keeper at 360 points in their summary (the person reading out says 260 first time and then its quickly corrected to 360).


I saw the page. It's 260.


That's pleasingly cheap for such a huge and powerful model!



This is wrong. GMG goes over the points costs. 360 for the Keeper and 340 for Shalaxi.

EDIT: Here is the link. He goes over all the points costs at 54:30ish https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UoXib2sY_s

Unless we are talking about 40k, then ignore it!

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 Sasori wrote:



This is wrong. GMG goes over the points costs. 360 for the Keeper and 340 for Shalaxi.

EDIT: Here is the link. He goes over all the points costs at 54:30ish https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UoXib2sY_s

Unless we are talking about 40k, then ignore it!


Well, yes we should be. This is 40K general.




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 Daedalus81 wrote:
 Sasori wrote:



This is wrong. GMG goes over the points costs. 360 for the Keeper and 340 for Shalaxi.

EDIT: Here is the link. He goes over all the points costs at 54:30ish https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UoXib2sY_s

Unless we are talking about 40k, then ignore it!


Well, yes we should be. This is 40K general.





Yeah, my bad! I saw the points and the word battletome, so I thought we were talking about AOS instead lol!


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Better images are posted in the Chaos Daemon Tactica thread.p168 IIRC.

They have Datasheets for Syll'Esske and The Contorted Epitome there, too.

The Fall of Kronstaat IV
Война Народная | Voyna Narodnaya | The People's War - 2,898pts painted (updated 18/09/19)
Волшебная Сказка | Volshebnaya Skazka | A Fairy Tale (updated 07/10/19, ep9 - Разорение | Razoreniye | Downfall)
Kabal of The Violet Heart (updated 18/09/19)

You know, if there's one thing I've learnt from being in the Army, it's never ignore a pooh-pooh. I knew a Major who got pooh-poohed; made the mistake of ignoring the pooh-pooh. He pooh-poohed it! Fatal error! 'Cause it turned out all along that the soldier who pooh-poohed him had been pooh-poohing a lot of other officers who pooh-poohed their pooh-poohs. In the end, we had to disband the regiment.
 
   
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 Excommunicatus wrote:
Personally, I think the old one is ridiculously overpriced at $50, for what it is and, yeah, they'll be all over that there t'ebay they have now within weeks of the new one's release.

I'm annoyed that I paid ca. $250 for a centerpiece model that's now the same size as a regular KoS.

which model did you get for your centerpiece?

P.S.A. I won't read your posts if you break it into a million separate quotes and make an eyesore of it. 
   
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Rzhev

 SHUPPET wrote:
 Excommunicatus wrote:
Personally, I think the old one is ridiculously overpriced at $50, for what it is and, yeah, they'll be all over that there t'ebay they have now within weeks of the new one's release.

I'm annoyed that I paid ca. $250 for a centerpiece model that's now the same size as a regular KoS.

which model did you get for your centerpiece?

Zarakynel. She is supposed to be some all-powerful World-Ender type of Daemon (who I call The Violet Heart) and the plan was to have her flanked by a couple of KoS attendants which probably won't 'read' now.

The Fall of Kronstaat IV
Война Народная | Voyna Narodnaya | The People's War - 2,898pts painted (updated 18/09/19)
Волшебная Сказка | Volshebnaya Skazka | A Fairy Tale (updated 07/10/19, ep9 - Разорение | Razoreniye | Downfall)
Kabal of The Violet Heart (updated 18/09/19)

You know, if there's one thing I've learnt from being in the Army, it's never ignore a pooh-pooh. I knew a Major who got pooh-poohed; made the mistake of ignoring the pooh-pooh. He pooh-poohed it! Fatal error! 'Cause it turned out all along that the soldier who pooh-poohed him had been pooh-poohing a lot of other officers who pooh-poohed their pooh-poohs. In the end, we had to disband the regiment.
 
   
 
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