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 lord_blackfang wrote:
Glad to hear orks did really well against 60 crisis suits

sorry. Fire warriors.

mrtomski wrote:
Ok got the codex.

Couple of interesting things on Nobz.

1. Can't get a free shoota anymore :-(
2. Are we sure dual choppa is possible RAW? It's says any Nob can remove it's slugga AND choppa with items from Nob weapon list.

Choppa is on the nobz weapon list.

mrtomski wrote:
Ok got the codex.

Couple of interesting things on Nobz.

1. Can't get a free shoota anymore :-(
2. Are we sure dual choppa is possible RAW? It's says any Nob can remove it's slugga AND choppa with items from Nob weapon list.

Is the kustom shoota on the nob weapons list? What exactly is on that list?


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 Jidmah wrote:

mrtomski wrote:
Ok got the codex.

Couple of interesting things on Nobz.

1. Can't get a free shoota anymore :-(
2. Are we sure dual choppa is possible RAW? It's says any Nob can remove it's slugga AND choppa with items from Nob weapon list.

Choppa is on the nobz weapon list.

In theory you should be able to give 20 kombi rokkit launchers to ten Nobz then.

pismakron wrote:
In theory you should be able to give 20 kombi rokkit launchers to ten Nobz then.

haha...nope, they thought of that one unfortunately

"Any model may replace it's slugga and choppa with items from the Nob Weapons list."
...

"Nob Weapons:
Up to two weapons can be chosen from the following list:
- Big choppa
- Choppa
- Killsaw
- Power klaw
- Power stabba
- Slugga

One weapon may be chosen from the following list:
- Kombi-weapon with rokkit launcha
- Kombi-weapon with skorcha"


dual sluggas? ...it would look cool, if nothing else ...but yeah, dual choppas should be a thing, based off that.

*edit: ooh...dual killsaw nobz...+1 attack, with killsaws, instead of choppas...37ppm though...

 JimOnMars wrote:
Just had a thought...

Da Jump yourself, then 'Eadbanger.

Nowhere does it say this does not work on vehicles, right?

What happens if you use it on a drukari raider? All you need is to roll a 5 and it's "slain". Command point reroll that bad boy...gives you 5/9 chance of outright killing it.

Legal?

This isn’t possible because after d jump, you need to be MORE then 9” away. And eadbanger is 9”....you just by jumping you are out of range.

 Sal4m4nd3r wrote:

 JimOnMars wrote:
Just had a thought...

Da Jump yourself, then 'Eadbanger.

Nowhere does it say this does not work on vehicles, right?

What happens if you use it on a drukari raider? All you need is to roll a 5 and it's "slain". Command point reroll that bad boy...gives you 5/9 chance of outright killing it.

Legal?

This isn’t possible because after d jump, you need to be MORE then 9” away. And eadbanger is 9”....you just by jumping you are out of range.

OK, just step off the trukk then, or run under the flyer. My main question is what happens when a vehicle is "slain".

The same as with any other model, in 8th a raider is the same as a warboss.

Throwing away a weirdboy to hope for a roll of 6+ isn't exactly something I'd call strategy
From my experience 'Eadbanger only makes sense when you are stuck in combat and want to blow up a specific model you're in base contact with (for example, an exarch). Outside of that, smite is always the better option, especially for orks due to the +3.

 Sal4m4nd3r wrote:

 JimOnMars wrote:
Just had a thought...

Da Jump yourself, then 'Eadbanger.

Nowhere does it say this does not work on vehicles, right?

What happens if you use it on a drukari raider? All you need is to roll a 5 and it's "slain". Command point reroll that bad boy...gives you 5/9 chance of outright killing it.

Legal?

This isn’t possible because after d jump, you need to be MORE then 9” away. And eadbanger is 9”....you just by jumping you are out of range.

I think it's 18 now. Though, you need to beat toughness. Means 6+ for a raider. Not worth risking a wierdboy. Trolltastic against celestine though. And probably t4 stuff with a lot of wounds like most sm named characters.

The new codex looks great. I first thought grot shields aren't amazing but than i realized they work on wounds. Means my meganobz are gona be super safe.

Though, the question.
Imagine a lazcannon shoots a meganob and rolls 6 damage. A meganob starts throwing grots in the way. How many grots will die? 3? 6?

im confused how many grotblastas/burnabombs the Boomdakka Snazzwagon has.
Theres 4 grot/orks on it but one is strapped to the front and i have no idea if the pilot counts as "crew"
it just says each crew has a grotblasta and burnabottle

 koooaei wrote:
Though, the question.
Imagine a lazcannon shoots a meganob and rolls 6 damage. A meganob starts throwing grots in the way. How many grots will die? 3? 6?

6, it's basically "ignore wound on 2+, but kill grot"


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 Vineheart01 wrote:
im confused how many grotblastas/burnabombs the Boomdakka Snazzwagon has.
Theres 4 grot/orks on it but one is strapped to the front and i have no idea if the pilot counts as "crew"
it just says each crew has a grotblasta and burnabottle

The crew as a whole has one grotblasta and one burnabottle. You don't count the crew members.

 koooaei wrote:

 Sal4m4nd3r wrote:

 JimOnMars wrote:
Just had a thought...

Da Jump yourself, then 'Eadbanger.

Nowhere does it say this does not work on vehicles, right?

What happens if you use it on a drukari raider? All you need is to roll a 5 and it's "slain". Command point reroll that bad boy...gives you 5/9 chance of outright killing it.

Legal?

This isn’t possible because after d jump, you need to be MORE then 9” away. And eadbanger is 9”....you just by jumping you are out of range.

I think it's 18 now. Though, you need to beat toughness. Means 6+ for a raider. Not worth risking a wierdboy. Trolltastic against celestine though. And probably t4 stuff with a lot of wounds like most sm named characters.

The new codex looks great. I first thought grot shields aren't amazing but than i realized they work on wounds. Means my meganobz are gona be super safe.

Though, the question.
Imagine a lazcannon shoots a meganob and rolls 6 damage. A meganob starts throwing grots in the way. How many grots will die? 3? 6?

Yea, just came back to post about the 18" range, so it does work.

Battlescribe has raiders at T5. Is that an error?

Nope. You still need to roll a 6 to 'Eadbang them.

It'd be a lot better if we could target models with 'Eadbanger rather than the closest model, not sure if it would be considered broken, but it'd be a lot better and worth considering than it is now.

Then again, at least it's not as bad as the Roar of Mork spell, I was hoping for a -1 to hit debuff, not a leadership one. What a waste of ink.

 Grimskul wrote:
It'd be a lot better if we could target models with 'Eadbanger rather than the closest model, not sure if it would be considered broken, but it'd be a lot better and worth considering than it is now.

Then again, at least it's not as bad as the Roar of Mork spell, I was hoping for a -1 to hit debuff, not a leadership one. What a waste of ink.

don't most disciplines have the red headed stepchild though?

These point increases are killing me... trying to pull together a list.

Thinking deathskulls primarly, with potentially some evil sunz.

I'm thinking about getting a Gork, teleporting him with some Nobz inside for the 3d6 charge. The rerolls and 6++ really help him.

Then it's more or less models I already own, thinking 2 battalions.

30 boy squad
3x10 shoota boyz
2x10 grots

10 tank bustas in a trukk
Nob squad in a trukk

Warboss on bike
Big Mek KFF
Painboy
2x Weirdboyz

Shockjump dragsta

4x Tractor kannons

which is roughly 2k points already... it feels like there is something missing... what do you guys think?

I was thinking about going Mork and dropping the big mek KFF, but I think it would almost certainly get shot off the board T1 since I'd want it around to protect everything, and then I'd be down a 300 point model and KFF. Also thought long and hard about the 3 deffdread vs. mork and mork won out for me (also for real world $$ purposes)

'Eadbange is probably not a good spell. In some matchups it might be used defensively. Like against Celestine or.... well thats it really. Da Jump is still really good, and the character buff is neat also.


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mrtomski wrote:
These point increases are killing me... trying to pull together a list.

Thinking deathskulls primarly, with potentially some evil sunz.

I'm thinking about getting a Gork, teleporting him with some Nobz inside for the 3d6 charge. The rerolls and 6++ really help him.

Then it's more or less models I already own, thinking 2 battalions.

30 boy squad
3x10 shoota boyz
2x10 grots

10 tank bustas in a trukk
Nob squad in a trukk

Warboss on bike
Big Mek KFF
Painboy
2x Weirdboyz

Shockjump dragsta

4x Tractor kannons

which is roughly 2k points already... it feels like there is something missing... what do you guys think?

I was thinking about going Mork and dropping the big mek KFF, but I think it would almost certainly get shot off the board T1 since I'd want it around to protect everything, and then I'd be down a 300 point model and KFF. Also thought long and hard about the 3 deffdread vs. mork and mork won out for me (also for real world $$ purposes)

If you are going for deathskullz, then you might as well split all your boyz into 10 man squads and give them a rokkit each. That lone rokkitlauncher can end up being very potent with a rerollable hit, wound and damage die. The same goes for their tankbustabumb. I also think that deff-dreads are better with deathskulls. You can give each a KMB blaster, and repeats as for the infantry. Deathskullz favour smultiple small units, and deffdreads get broken down into single units after deployment.

If you are going to put something in a tellyporter, then I suggest it should be the tankbusta-trukk. Teleport it in and blow something up. If you make them bad moons then they can shoot twice for two CP. That should be enough to reliably cripple a knight or kill a Leman Russ. I would also take smasha guns over traktor cannons, although both looks like they could be decent.

Also, you should consider bringing more trukks. Take one for deploying your characters in, for example. They are sturdy and inexpensive, they can tie stuff down and be annoying, and sit on objectives. You can even use them to block movement, or stop a tank from falling back.

pismakron wrote:
'Eadbange is probably not a good spell. In some matchups it might be used defensively. Like against Celestine or.... well thats it really. Da Jump is still really good, and the character buff is neat also.


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mrtomski wrote:
These point increases are killing me... trying to pull together a list.

If you are going for deathskullz, then you might as well split all your boyz into 10 man squads and give them a rokkit each. That lone rokkitlauncher can end up being very potent with a rerollable hit, wound and damage die. The same goes for their tankbustabumb. I also think that deff-dreads are better with deathskulls. You can give each a KMB blaster, and repeats as for the infantry. Deathskullz favour smultiple small units, and deffdreads get broken down into single units after deployment.

If you are going to put something in a tellyporter, then I suggest it should be the tankbusta-trukk. Teleport it in and blow something up. If you make them bad moons then they can shoot twice for two CP. That should be enough to reliably cripple a knight or kill a Leman Russ. I would also take smasha guns over traktor cannons, although both looks like they could be decent.

Also, you should consider bringing more trukks. Take one for deploying your characters in, for example. They are sturdy and inexpensive, they can tie stuff down and be annoying, and sit on objectives. You can even use them to block movement, or stop a tank from falling back.

Good advice thanks. The only thing that stops be changing all the boyz to 10 mans is that jumping a 30 boy squad was so strong... not sure I'm ready to let that go... but maybe that's the way we are heading?

What do you think about the Gork? Worth the points?

Ladz, we have a Codex thread now, so move yer green arses over there. Can someone please close this one?

Agree. I would be great if some mod could close this one.

Traktor cannons are nutty.

1 shot str8-4apDd6? AUTOHITTING? Then auto blowing up anything with fly? Niiiiice.

For about 45 points too.

I prefer this thread to the other one. I don't have the codex yet, but I definitely think that the smasha gun is clearly the best of the four. Its price might even be an error, at only 31 points.

I'm looking at getting my brother a gift to bring him back into actively playing the game. He's quite fond of Burnas, and has a slew of Burna Boyz. Do you think that a Battlewagon with Deffrolla (maybe some other guns?), kept open-topped and rolling around with fire pouring out of it while it smashes into things is a viable option?