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So, I have the Grand Master Edition of Adeptus Titanicus and was looking to expand it with suitable models, but there are getting to be quite a few "expansions" now. What would be best to start expanding with in terms of titans and knights? What would you say they bring to the game and their priority:

Warhounds
Reaver (original or melta cannon/chain fist)
Additional Questoris knights
Cerastus knights
Acastus knights
Titandeath
Doom of Molech
Titans of Legend
additional warlord weapons? or even more warlords?

Finally: Do I understand it correctly that if i buy a box of say warhounds or a reaver or whatever, i ALSO need to buy command terminals and weapon cards for these separately? o0

thanks in advance!

The Grandmaster edition's rules will have Warhound and Reaver terminals, but yes, if you want to run even more than the ones that come in the standard rules set, you'll need those.

For what its worth, as a brand new player too I started by adding the two expansions books as they will add the most options in general, and are fairly inexpensive.

From watching batreps, Warhound and Reavers really make it a more complete game of dynamics beyond a lumbering single Titan, to be sure.

The expansion books give you quite a lot of options when it comes to Legio rules, new stratagems, missions and so on and I fully encourage getting them at some point, but as the first thing I'd get some Warhounds and Reavers. When you have, say, two of each titan with magnetized weapons, you can try out all the different maniples (well, almost all, some require three of the same class ) and learn the game properly. You also already have the terminals for that.

Battlegroup boxes are best value for AT, giving you a box for free essentially. Of course they have a Warlord in them too, which isn't a problem if you like them or have a friend to pawn them off to.

 Sherrypie wrote:


Battlegroup boxes are best value for AT, giving you a box for free essentially. Of course they have a Warlord in them too, which isn't a problem if you like them or have a friend to pawn them off to.

^This except keep the Warlords because they’re cool. Battleboxes and Cerastus knights are solid investments.

Also a helpful player at Bolter and Chainsword named Macrossmartin made some excellent printable command terminals that you can pencil in like Battletech record sheets or laminate and use dry erase markers. The cardboard ones are expensive, ugly, and superfluous.

Of course Warlords are cool, but OP already has two from the GME. If prioritizing is needed, more of them might not be the best for starters

I had the same but magically ended up with 3 more. You can’t have too many titans.

yes, you need a terminal and wep cards for every titan or knight banner you bring to the table.
if you dont want to actualy buy the terminals you can download and print them from here: https://www.warhammer-community.com/downloads/ (the HH tab) and just make some copys of the wep cards you allready have.

so, where to go from the GME.

first off you want to make a legal mainple, either demi(3 titans) or full(5 titans). in addition to the 3 maniples in the core box there are 2-3 maniples in each of the current expansion books, so i would say getting the expansions as 1st prio, UNLESS you are happy with one of the 3 maniples in the core box.
if the content of GME are yours alone, then for max savings select mainples that uses minimum 2 warlords. (cheapest would be regia found in titandeath, all you need is 1 box of warhounds for the demi, and 2 boxes of hounds for full maniple)

knights are as i see it is an option. you dont need them at all if you dont want them. if you do want them, you dont need more then 1 banner, and seeing as you allready have 3-6 questoris, why bother to buy more knights.
the new acastus knight is primarely ment for knight only forces as it puts long range titan damaging weponry on a knight body.
allso get the warlords weapon sprues so you can experiment (you dident glue the weapons i hope??) (2 of the weapons for the warlord are FW exlusive)

Myrmidon is a solid maniple using a pair of Warlords.

FrozenDwarf is not entirely on the money on knights, since you do need more than one banner if you really like them. Especially since there are three different types. The other reason is that non-Acastus knights die, a lot. If you like them, be prepared to have enough left over.

But they are not necessary as such, no. Going pure titans is absolutely viable.

 Sherrypie wrote:
FrozenDwarf is not entirely on the money on knights, since you do need more than one banner if you really like them. Especially since there are three different types. The other reason is that non-Acastus knights die, a lot. If you like them, be prepared to have enough left over.

But they are not necessary as such, no. Going pure titans is absolutely viable.

difference of playstyle i guess.
as i see it, if you have points left over for 2 knight banners, you are better off adding a reserve reaver.

 FrozenDwarf wrote:

 Sherrypie wrote:
FrozenDwarf is not entirely on the money on knights, since you do need more than one banner if you really like them. Especially since there are three different types. The other reason is that non-Acastus knights die, a lot. If you like them, be prepared to have enough left over.

But they are not necessary as such, no. Going pure titans is absolutely viable.

difference of playstyle i guess.
as i see it, if you have points left over for 2 knight banners, you are better off adding a reserve reaver.

Also depends on the rest of your roster. If you’ve spent 1,000pts on a pair of Warlords I’d get two knight banners over a Reaver to increase my number of activations. This is my chief concern with 100pts banners of one Acastus knight, you can get 5 of them for the cost of two Reavers and basically force your opponent to move their entire army before you have to move any of your titans to better position yourself.

Thanks for all the advice!

Look this is meant to be a fun game, you can sorta play what you like because there’s now a bunch of maniples that give different bonuses.

Warlords: 500ish points
Reavers: 300ish points
Warhounds: 220ish points
3x Questoris: 165ish points
2x Cerastus: 170ish points

Work those numbers to hit about 1500 based on the models you like. Warlords are big and scary but are points heavy fire magnets. Reavers are a good middle ground but the models are a chore to assemble. Warhounds are fast and fun glass cannons. Pick what you like! The battle groups are so great, I wish I had waited to get those instead of buying a bunch of individual models. :(

One thing I would recommend if like me you already have the Grandmaster set is getting another basic rules set. You'll get another set of dice which is handy, and a whole new set of command terminals and tokens, saves having to buy the packs of 5.

You could then sell off the rulebook and other parts to make most of your money back.

Yeah, I have GME and the Rules set and have had no problems with terminals or cards with a reasonably balanced force of >2000 points. It's also not hard to just keep everything on a notepad, given you get all the stats in the GME.

Books are well worth it.

For what they are, I find them quite reasonably priced. And the additional Maniples open up new tactical options, especially once you've got a fair clutch of Titans.

If you've magnetised your Warlord hardpoints, the £26 investment in the Plasma Sprue is pretty decent. For that, you get new Carapace options, two Sunfury Plasma Cannons, and a Powerfist. That's some decent options to shake up your existing armament.

Beyond that? Definitely Warhounds. They're the first and so far only 'one and done' set, in that you don't need to buy any more to get their full weapons suite. Indeed, you only need a second box if you're intent on having three or four say, Vulcan Megabolters.

For now, I'd say you've probably got enough Knights. They're nice gap fillers for the moment, and you only really need more if exploiting the All-Knight army in Molech.

If anyone else is thinking of starting, I'd say the GME isn't an essential. Yes, you get nice stuff in it, but with two Warlords already, you won't really get the full value out of the Titan Maniple - so one could end up spending more in the long run.

Let's contrast and compare. GBP prices only I'm afraid, as that's my local currency.

GME edition is £180. For that, we of course get two Warlords (£65 each), two sets of Knights (£20 each) and some terrain (I think it's three lots of the £25 set?). Plus the rules (£35).

So whilst not a cheap start, you are getting £280.00 worth of stuff, saving you £100.

But.....but.....

You could go with the rules (£35), and two Titan Battlegroups (£100 each). That bags you a £70 saving, as the Reavers are effectively free.

You end up with more models, and greater flexibility when considering your Maniples (indeed, you can field the majority of those available with those contents alone).

But if you went the GME route? You'll probably, in terms of in-game practicality, only want a third Warlord. But at least three Reavers and 4 Warhounds.

I find the Battlegroup better value. Whilst the saving is noticeably lesser, the flexibility is indisputably greater.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Books are well worth it.

For what they are, I find them quite reasonably priced. And the additional Maniples open up new tactical options, especially once you've got a fair clutch of Titans.

If you've magnetised your Warlord hardpoints, the £26 investment in the Plasma Sprue is pretty decent. For that, you get new Carapace options, two Sunfury Plasma Cannons, and a Powerfist. That's some decent options to shake up your existing armament.

Beyond that? Definitely Warhounds. They're the first and so far only 'one and done' set, in that you don't need to buy any more to get their full weapons suite. Indeed, you only need a second box if you're intent on having three or four say, Vulcan Megabolters.

For now, I'd say you've probably got enough Knights. They're nice gap fillers for the moment, and you only really need more if exploiting the All-Knight army in Molech.

If anyone else is thinking of starting, I'd say the GME isn't an essential. Yes, you get nice stuff in it, but with two Warlords already, you won't really get the full value out of the Titan Maniple - so one could end up spending more in the long run.

Let's contrast and compare. GBP prices only I'm afraid, as that's my local currency.

GME edition is £180. For that, we of course get two Warlords (£65 each), two sets of Knights (£20 each) and some terrain (I think it's three lots of the £25 set?). Plus the rules (£35).

So whilst not a cheap start, you are getting £280.00 worth of stuff, saving you £100.

But.....but.....

You could go with the rules (£35), and two Titan Battlegroups (£100 each). That bags you a £70 saving, as the Reavers are effectively free.

You end up with more models, and greater flexibility when considering your Maniples (indeed, you can field the majority of those available with those contents alone).

But if you went the GME route? You'll probably, in terms of in-game practicality, only want a third Warlord. But at least three Reavers and 4 Warhounds.

I find the Battlegroup better value. Whilst the saving is noticeably lesser, the flexibility is indisputably greater.

Ye the thing is i want to have two forces that are fun to play since im playing with a friend that doesnt own any AT stuff. So to complement the two warlords and 2 questoris banners from the GME, what would be most essential so one can test a little variety. A box of warhounds and two reavers? giving us 1 warlord, 1 reaver and 1 warhound each? i really have no idea what maniples there are

A fun way to mix up the titans between two people is all Reavers versus a mix of Warlords and Warhounds. There's an all Reaver maniple where you take 3-5 Reavers and they can back up or sidestep at full speed, that's what my loyalists will focus on.

Totto wrote:


i really have no idea what maniples there are

you can start by reading the core rule book. there are 3 maniples there..................

then 4 in titandeath and 2 in molech.

Sorry, I posted in the wrong thread.